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Old 05-09-2004, 08:08 AM   #1
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Streamray..................

... What's your experience with them? Does the %-option generate a better revenue than per-signup programs like Clickcash or HSN?
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Old 05-09-2004, 08:44 AM   #2
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Old 05-09-2004, 09:01 AM   #3
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The % option is best in the long run, it rocks.
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Old 05-09-2004, 09:18 AM   #4
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How does it come out in $/unique?
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Old 05-09-2004, 09:27 AM   #5
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most webcam programs are much better on recur then pps

the retention is much longer then the average paysite

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Old 05-09-2004, 09:41 AM   #6
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Old 05-09-2004, 10:23 AM   #7
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most webcam programs are much better on recur then pps

the retention is much longer then the average paysite

How long does it take usually till it equals the standard pps amounts?
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Old 05-09-2004, 11:06 AM   #8
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As people donīt have to put a credit card on when they join and there may be no initial purchase - just wonder how long it takes until you see a decent return...
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Old 05-09-2004, 11:57 AM   #9
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Anybody can tell some numbers

traffic / free joins / money made

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Old 05-09-2004, 11:59 AM   #10
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Good program. Pays on time.
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Old 05-09-2004, 12:05 PM   #11
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Good program. Pays on time.
Doing better than a per sign-up program for you?
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Old 05-09-2004, 12:12 PM   #12
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How many of the free joins take actually their credit card out at some point....?
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Old 05-09-2004, 12:52 PM   #13
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I just heard about it at Webmaster Access in Atlanta and was told that the % option is the best.
I just signed up, myself.
Good Luck!
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Old 05-09-2004, 01:15 PM   #14
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I just heard about it at Webmaster Access in Atlanta and was told that the % option is the best.
I just signed up, myself.
Good Luck!
Any results already?
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Old 05-09-2004, 02:56 PM   #15
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What would be a good amount of traffic / joins to test it out?
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Old 05-10-2004, 12:23 AM   #16
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Old 05-10-2004, 12:45 AM   #17
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I just heard about it at Webmaster Access in Atlanta and was told that the % option is the best.
I just signed up, myself.
Good Luck!

I'll look into it myself!
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Old 05-10-2004, 12:45 AM   #18
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I've gotten many, many signups but no $$$.

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Old 05-10-2004, 12:48 AM   #19
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i don't just endorse streamray, i USE them


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Old 05-10-2004, 01:28 AM   #20
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I've gotten many, many signups but no $$$.

Thats my exact problem...
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Old 05-10-2004, 01:33 AM   #21
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I've gotten many, many signups but no $$$.


That sucks!
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Old 05-10-2004, 01:42 AM   #22
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I've gotten many, many signups but no $$$.

As MANY is a relative thing - how many signups approximately? People say you have to be patient with that kind of program, but an indication like 100, 500, 1000 or 10000 free joins are necessary to see a decent return would be helpful.
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Old 05-10-2004, 01:44 AM   #23
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As MANY is a relative thing - how many signups approximately? People say you have to be patient with that kind of program, but an indication like 100, 500, 1000 or 10000 free joins are necessary to see a decent return would be helpful.

If you do a search on the board here, you'll see many people saying the same thing I said.

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Old 05-10-2004, 02:22 AM   #24
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I've gotten many, many signups but no $$$.

I've gotten many, many signups + $$$.

for a converting live web cam site check my sig

works for me

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Old 05-10-2004, 03:05 AM   #25
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I've gotten many, many signups + $$$.

for a converting live web cam site check my sig

works for me
does that relate to streamray or your sig...
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Old 05-10-2004, 04:40 AM   #26
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does that relate to streamray or your sig...
the one in my sig (imlive).
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Old 05-10-2004, 06:09 AM   #27
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Interesting how nobody posts any numbers...
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Old 05-10-2004, 07:20 AM   #28
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Interesting how nobody posts any numbers...
Unique IPs: 6334
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Sales: $210.92 (-$4.79 chargebacks)

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Old 05-10-2004, 07:40 AM   #29
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Old 05-10-2004, 07:51 AM   #30
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first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time.

As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make.

And on to the real hat trick
In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual.

Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later.

On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year.

This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that !

Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around
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Old 05-12-2004, 12:25 PM   #31
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If you do a search on the board here, you'll see many people saying the same thing I said.

if you can, get in touch with me and we can chat about trying
to get those free signups working for you. if you search on this
board, there are more post about people still getting checks
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Old 05-12-2004, 12:35 PM   #32
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Streamray is tight.. Lars and Irish Pimp are awsome people.. good to hang with... We also use them in our members areas, and we do good with them..

** Lars, I'll be calling you up next time I come out near SC..
We'll have to make a city trip or somethig =) Prolly in another month or so...
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Old 09-12-2004, 10:40 AM   #33
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Streamray is tight.. Lars and Irish Pimp are awsome people.. good to hang with... We also use them in our members areas, and we do good with them..

** Lars, I'll be calling you up next time I come out near SC..
We'll have to make a city trip or somethig =) Prolly in another month or so...

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