Higher skim = less prod traffic? - GoFuckYourself.com

Makingcoin · 05-07-2004, 03:14 PM

Site one - Skims at 80%. meaning 80% of your traffic is going straight to trades.

Site two - Skims at 20%. meaning 20% of your traffic is going straight to trades.

Who's traffic will be more productive? Having a little debate here.

body · 05-07-2004, 03:15 PM

hmm, if every link leads the surfer to another trade he maybe will be pissed, but a few new sites for the surfer aren't bad, more free porn for him.

strongdong · 05-07-2004, 03:16 PM

rip raster · 05-07-2004, 03:17 PM

you will arrive at noon

xApster · 05-07-2004, 03:19 PM

Makingcoin · 05-07-2004, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xApster
2

Why? I still have people arguing with me.. saying it doesnt matter if you skim super hard.

eRock · 05-07-2004, 03:28 PM

I'd say site (2). In my experiences, the harder ya skim, the least productive cuz it's like clicking on blind links. Clicking on a link where yoiu know where you're going is always gonna be more productive.

Nightwork · 05-07-2004, 03:28 PM

Too less info to answer.

Depends also if you have textlinks or thumbs, the quality of the description/thumbs, the quality of the trades, etc.

Not even talking about your niche, the origin of your traffic, the site designs, serverspeeds, etc, etc

cluck · 05-07-2004, 03:29 PM

I do 50% and it works ok. Productive enough to build trades AND keep them visiting galleries.

Pipecrew · 05-07-2004, 03:32 PM

It would be site 2, but maybe they are confused, because when you set a skim, it is what goes to galleries and the remaining goes to trades..

So Site 1 = 80 to galleries, 20 to trades
So Site 2 = 20 to galleries, 80 to trades

Makingcoin · 05-07-2004, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nightwork
Too less info to answer.

Depends also if you have textlinks or thumbs, the quality of the description/thumbs, the quality of the trades, etc.

Not even talking about your niche, the origin of your traffic, the site designs, serverspeeds, etc, etc

Ok,

Two sites that are the exact same. Same niche, same traffic. same site design.. everything the same..

Which one would have more productive traffic? One that skims higher or one that skims less?

05-07-2004, 03:33 PM

The higher the skim, the less surfers will want to click. They want porn and it it's not there, they'll go elsewhere. A site with less skim is MUCH more productive.

Case Closed.

eRock · 05-07-2004, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Makingcoin
Ok,

Two sites that are the exact same. Same niche, same traffic. same site design.. everything the same..

Which one would have more productive traffic? One that skims higher or one that skims less?

The one that skims less....

rip raster · 05-07-2004, 03:35 PM

Ok now I am really confused

Makingcoin · 05-07-2004, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
It would be site 2, but maybe they are confused, because when you set a skim, it is what goes to galleries and the remaining goes to trades..

So Site 1 = 80 to galleries, 20 to trades
So Site 2 = 20 to galleries, 80 to trades

Now you have confused them all...

Higher skim = less productive traffic.
Less skim = more productive traffic.

strobi · 05-07-2004, 03:37 PM

Use your brain for 1 second. The more you send to trades the worse your prod will become.

Juicy D. Links · 05-07-2004, 03:38 PM

either way I am sexy

CuriousToyBoy2 · 05-07-2004, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Makingcoin
Site one - Skims at 80%. meaning 80% of your traffic is going straight to trades.
Site two - Skims at 20%. meaning 20% of your traffic is going straight to trades.
Who's traffic will be more productive? Having a little debate here.

OK, let me see if I can get this right....

Surfer A arrives at Site One at 9.12am GMT on Saturday 15 June, while Surfer B leaces Site Two at 11.34pm PST on Sunday 16 June, while Surfer C arrives no where because his hard drive crashed the day before yesterday.

If Surfer A is travelling at 13.768 clicks per surfing minute and Surfer B is travelling at only 3.24 clicks per surfing minute because he has a VERY sore left index finger because he bites his nails and this time it went right down to the quick, will Surfer C get to Ireland before them?

Ahh.. Of course! How obvious an answer!

Surfer D, the guy who never upgraded his last Atari !!!

eRock · 05-07-2004, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CuriousToyBoy
OK, let me see if I can get this right....

Surfer A arrives at Site One at 9.12am GMT on Saturday 15 June, while Surfer B leaces Site Two at 11.34pm PST on Sunday 16 June, while Surfer C arrives no where because his hard drive crashed the day before yesterday.

If Surfer A is travelling at 13.768 clicks per surfing minute and Surfer B is travelling at only 3.24 clicks per surfing minute because he has a VERY sore left index finger because he bites his nails and this time it went right down to the quick, will Surfer C get to Ireland before them?

Ahh.. Of course! How obvious an answer!

Surfer D, the guy who never upgraded his last Atari !!!

Man...that's a lotta typing for a bad joke.

Nightwork · 05-07-2004, 03:42 PM

Than it's easy.

Low skim is more getting what a user want and being more willing to click to another gallery.

High skim is more likely to click and higher risc on loosing focus on your site and continuing on the trade.

But the thing is that you're now talking on the productivity on your site, the productivity of the visitor on the trade site is important as well.

There as well more productivity is more result, so you want might consider losing some visitors fast to other trades before they have jerked off or bought a membership at your site (well, that ain't bad ofcourse) and will be clicking for porn at your trade, who will send you back quality traffic in return.

So what really is the best tactic?
(yeah ok, I know, I'm bored)

Lane · 05-07-2004, 03:42 PM

Site 2 will have more productive traffic. People click more, when links are less misleading.

But the traffic that Site 1 sends to its trades probably will be more productive, so it will get better returns from trades.

Lane · 05-07-2004, 03:46 PM

By the way there is one thing wrong with this thread.

80% skim means, 80% to galleries and 20% to trades.

I was one of the first to add skimming feature in a traffic trading script a couple years back, and this has been the definition the whole time... I hope its not changing now, cuz it gets confusing when u refer to "high" or "low" skimming.

CuriousToyBoy2 · 05-07-2004, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eRock
Man...that's a lotta typing for a bad joke.

What can I say?

I'm bored and need to get a life.

webgurl · 05-07-2004, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Makingcoin
Site one - Skims at 80%. meaning 80% of your traffic is going straight to trades.

Site two - Skims at 20%. meaning 20% of your traffic is going straight to trades.

Who's traffic will be more productive? Having a little debate here.

huh ?????

Do you mean Site 1 80% skimming is 80% to the galleries and the 20% to the trades and site 2 20% skimming is to the the galleries and the rest of 80% goes your trades ...... ????

Makingcoin · 05-07-2004, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
By the way there is one thing wrong with this thread.

80% skim means, 80% to galleries and 20% to trades.

I was one of the first to add skimming feature in a traffic trading script a couple years back, and this has been the definition the whole time... I hope its not changing now, cuz it gets confusing when u refer to "high" or "low" skimming.

I worded it wrong. You have to keep things simple for gfy.

webgurl · 05-07-2004, 04:33 PM

this thread is a joke obviously if your sending more % to your trades than your productivity is gonna be crappy .
If you had a pure hardlink site and NO SKIMMING at all . How sweet your productivity would be you'd be up there like sky atleast 500% , however good luck generating more traffic to your site possible but VERY difficult . There are few exceptions of course like the big sites and the sites that been around for long time cause most of them already have a huge collection of bookmarks .

Less skimming higher productivity , more skimming crappier productivity

JOKER · 05-07-2004, 04:43 PM

I send 95% to galleries, 5% to trades...

I get an average 400% in return... tells ya something

Thats for the thumbs.

I have a hardlink list at the bottom at the site as well.

You get the picture :-)

JOKER

FlyingIguana · 05-07-2004, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Makingcoin
Why? I still have people arguing with me.. saying it doesnt matter if you skim super hard.

people would be more likely to bookmark the site with 20%. but chances are if you're skimming at all you might not have many bookmarks as you would with zero skimming.

so with that in mind, if you're gonna skim, it could very well be best to just go balls to the wall with skimming and make a true circle jerk site.

maybe then use those circle jerk sites to help funnel traffic to a clean tgp that would get bookmarks and a good high quality surfer base. why try to get the best of both worlds on one site when it most likely doesn't really work? have sites concentrating on what it does best, move traffic or be a 'high quality' tgp.

05-07-2004, 03:14 PM	#1
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05-07-2004, 03:28 PM	#7
eRock Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chi-town Posts: 3,112	I'd say site (2). In my experiences, the harder ya skim, the least productive cuz it's like clicking on blind links. Clicking on a link where yoiu know where you're going is always gonna be more productive. __________________ Swiftwill Hosting

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Nightwork Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 61	Too less info to answer. Depends also if you have textlinks or thumbs, the quality of the description/thumbs, the quality of the trades, etc. Not even talking about your niche, the origin of your traffic, the site designs, serverspeeds, etc, etc __________________ God may have created the world in 6 days, but you can bet your ass that while he rested on the 7th, a programmer coded it all.<br>ICQ:48322442

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cluck Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,248	I do 50% and it works ok. Productive enough to build trades AND keep them visiting galleries. __________________ icq 279990726 www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

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Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	It would be site 2, but maybe they are confused, because when you set a skim, it is what goes to galleries and the remaining goes to trades.. So Site 1 = 80 to galleries, 20 to trades So Site 2 = 20 to galleries, 80 to trades

05-07-2004, 03:33 PM	#12
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	The higher the skim, the less surfers will want to click. They want porn and it it's not there, they'll go elsewhere. A site with less skim is MUCH more productive. Case Closed.

05-07-2004, 03:35 PM	#14
rip raster Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Everville Posts: 2,851	Ok now I am really confused

05-07-2004, 03:37 PM	#16
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	Use your brain for 1 second. The more you send to trades the worse your prod will become.

05-07-2004, 03:38 PM	#17
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	either way I am sexy

05-07-2004, 03:42 PM	#20
Nightwork Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 61	Than it's easy. Low skim is more getting what a user want and being more willing to click to another gallery. High skim is more likely to click and higher risc on loosing focus on your site and continuing on the trade. But the thing is that you're now talking on the productivity on your site, the productivity of the visitor on the trade site is important as well. There as well more productivity is more result, so you want might consider losing some visitors fast to other trades before they have jerked off or bought a membership at your site (well, that ain't bad ofcourse) and will be clicking for porn at your trade, who will send you back quality traffic in return. So what really is the best tactic? (yeah ok, I know, I'm bored) __________________ God may have created the world in 6 days, but you can bet your ass that while he rested on the 7th, a programmer coded it all.<br>ICQ:48322442

05-07-2004, 03:42 PM	#21
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	Site 2 will have more productive traffic. People click more, when links are less misleading. But the traffic that Site 1 sends to its trades probably will be more productive, so it will get better returns from trades. __________________

05-07-2004, 03:46 PM	#22
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	By the way there is one thing wrong with this thread. 80% skim means, 80% to galleries and 20% to trades. I was one of the first to add skimming feature in a traffic trading script a couple years back, and this has been the definition the whole time... I hope its not changing now, cuz it gets confusing when u refer to "high" or "low" skimming. __________________

05-07-2004, 04:33 PM	#26
webgurl Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clouds with Carebears Posts: 7,954	this thread is a joke obviously if your sending more % to your trades than your productivity is gonna be crappy . If you had a pure hardlink site and NO SKIMMING at all . How sweet your productivity would be you'd be up there like sky atleast 500% , however good luck generating more traffic to your site possible but VERY difficult . There are few exceptions of course like the big sites and the sites that been around for long time cause most of them already have a huge collection of bookmarks . Less skimming higher productivity , more skimming crappier productivity Last edited by webgurl; 05-07-2004 at 04:35 PM..

05-07-2004, 04:43 PM	#27
JOKER Facit Omnia Voluntas Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Offshore Posts: 2,105	I send 95% to galleries, 5% to trades... I get an average 400% in return... tells ya something Thats for the thumbs. I have a hardlink list at the bottom at the site as well. You get the picture :-) JOKER __________________ Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing Skype: jokerempire \| Silent Circle: joker