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Old 05-05-2004, 09:47 PM   #1
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Finding a Programmer

What is the best way to find a programmer who lives in your area and is unemployed? This team of programmers I am currently am using are two months behind their deadline and have not returned my ICQ in 3 days.

I am a firm believer in deadlines and this is really pissing me off. The good thing about this is, they only live 2 hours away here in North Carolina.

Before I searched the net I wanted to ask GFY. I really am only looking for local people so I can personally explain to them what the fuck I want done.
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Old 05-05-2004, 09:49 PM   #2
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Old 05-05-2004, 09:50 PM   #3
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Kick there ass and hit me up on ICQ ... we're pretty good at understanding what customers want... I'm going to be in Ohio, so it's not TOO far...lol

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Old 05-05-2004, 10:01 PM   #4
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What kind of programming?
If you are looking local I can only think of web job boards and your local paper.
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Old 05-05-2004, 10:02 PM   #5
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Old 05-05-2004, 10:04 PM   #6
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What kind of programming?
If you are looking local I can only think of web job boards and your local paper.
Web based programming. I need a script to be completed or made/modified. Have any URLs of job boards? I was thinking about looking in monster.com for resumes etc etc.
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Old 05-05-2004, 10:06 PM   #7
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This team of programmers I am currently am using are two months behind their deadline and have not returned my ICQ in 3 days.
Yep, isnt it sad how the only person you can truly ever count on in life is yourself.

I dont know any programmers in NC, but good luck
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Old 05-05-2004, 10:08 PM   #8
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Web based programming. I need a script to be completed or made/modified. Have any URLs of job boards? I was thinking about looking in monster.com for resumes etc etc.
Hmmm, damn I was on all of them about 4 yrs ago.....lol

http://www.computerjobs.com

Monster.com of course....

Freelance.com

I am sure there are more, search Google.
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Old 05-05-2004, 10:17 PM   #9
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Fuck monster wants 400 to look at resumes!
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Old 05-05-2004, 10:26 PM   #10
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Fuck monster wants 400 to look at resumes!
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Old 05-05-2004, 10:35 PM   #11
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I need them to be in Charlotte.
Hmm. Looks like Raleigh's the only major city in NC for Craig's List. I'd check it out anyway; you might find somebody in the Charlotte area. Good luck!
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Old 05-05-2004, 11:52 PM   #13
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Old 05-05-2004, 11:57 PM   #15
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What is the best way to find a programmer who lives in your area and is unemployed? This team of programmers I am currently am using are two months behind their deadline and have not returned my ICQ in 3 days.

I am a firm believer in deadlines and this is really pissing me off. The good thing about this is, they only live 2 hours away here in North Carolina.

Before I searched the net I wanted to ask GFY. I really am only looking for local people so I can personally explain to them what the fuck I want done.
You must lean something that is very important about software development IT NEVER MEETS ITS DEADLINE
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Old 05-06-2004, 12:12 AM   #16
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Some programming meets it's deadline, if it is well hahahahahahahahaed what is going to be done and you dont bug the programmers until what you agreed to is done.
unfortunately nobody understands this, i spend more time on aim and icq talking about what needs to be done rather than doing it because i find people dont really know what they want until its too late.

i plan on writing some articles that will be published in klixx very soon here on understanding and working with your programmer(s). also on finding a programming staff that works and how programmers work.

if they are two months behind, there is a reason. it is probably due to the way they are treated or the money you are paying them is far less than other people are paying them. try sending them an email as programmers are busy and do not answer messaging services but do much better with email at their leisure.

as for finding somebody local, if you cannot describe what you want in text, it will never get done the way you want it because that means that you dont really know what you want and you prefer to verbally brainstorm (which doesnt bode well with programmers). the only programmers you are going to find in NC are overpriced ex-dotcommers, and htey all have jobs because the only reason they are there is because they moved there.
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You must lean something that is very important about software development IT NEVER MEETS ITS DEADLINE
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Old 05-06-2004, 08:56 AM   #18
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Some programming meets it's deadline, if it is well hahahahahahahahaed what is going to be done and you dont bug the programmers until what you agreed to is done.
unfortunately nobody understands this, i spend more time on aim and icq talking about what needs to be done rather than doing it because i find people dont really know what they want until its too late.

i plan on writing some articles that will be published in klixx very soon here on understanding and working with your programmer(s). also on finding a programming staff that works and how programmers work.

if they are two months behind, there is a reason. it is probably due to the way they are treated or the money you are paying them is far less than other people are paying them. try sending them an email as programmers are busy and do not answer messaging services but do much better with email at their leisure.

as for finding somebody local, if you cannot describe what you want in text, it will never get done the way you want it because that means that you dont really know what you want and you prefer to verbally brainstorm (which doesnt bode well with programmers). the only programmers you are going to find in NC are overpriced ex-dotcommers, and htey all have jobs because the only reason they are there is because they moved there.
I speced it out with all the features that it needed before I got a quote and an agreed price. No excuses for late work.
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Software development ONLY misses its deadlines when the programming team is absolutely INCOMPETENT. The most crucial step in development happens before a computer is even powered up; that is, the team's leader MUST figure out EXACTLY what the customer wants.

This process SHOULD take longer than you think it will (as the customer). It's a sign of competence.

Then, when new stuff is added to the specification, as happens inevitably, the deadline can be pushed back. "Software always misses deadlines" is NOT true, it's just that good, competent programmers -- capable of accurately assessing time/money requirements -- are difficult to find.

Especially on the web: "I knoe teh PHP" does not mean "I am a competent programmer." It usually means "I can show teh today's date" or "I can make teh feedback form."

Your programmer should push you to the point of INSANITY with his seemingly inane questions about the task at hand. Programmers who DO NOT do this are only setting you up for bad news in the future.
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Old 05-06-2004, 01:36 PM   #20
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