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dig420 · 05-04-2004, 06:19 PM

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4534274/

all you need to know about O'Neill and Swoop's organization.

but MSNBC is a liberal biased publication right?

None of these guys ever say anything about what Kerry did in Vietnam, they're all pissed about what he said afterward. The Bushites try to spin that into something disreputable about his service.

Giorgio_Xo · 05-04-2004, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
While John Kerry did serve, and won medals in vietnam, he also came home and accused american soldiers of being baby killers whom commited atrocities, made up some story about throwing his medals on to the white house lawn, and sided with the enemy, and people want to put him in charge of the military? who for attorney general - Charles Manson?

Dude, two words: My Lai.

Joe Citizen · 05-04-2004, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
While John Kerry did serve, and won medals in vietnam, he also came home and accused american soldiers of being baby killers whom commited atrocities

They did kill babies. Lots of them.

Ever hear of the My Lai massacre?

504 unarmed women, children and elderly people murdered in one day by US troops.

dig420 · 05-04-2004, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
While John Kerry did serve, and won medals in vietnam, he also came home and accused american soldiers of being baby killers whom commited atrocities, made up some story about throwing his medals on to the white house lawn, and sided with the enemy, and people want to put him in charge of the military? who for attorney general - Charles Manson?

and we've learned in the time since Vietnam that everything he said was true, right? Telling the truth is siding with the enemy? Only for conservatives who want to believe that everyone smart enough to oppose our actions in Iraq are traitors.

Giorgio_Xo · 05-04-2004, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
and we've learned in the time since Vietnam that everything he said was true, right? Telling the truth is siding with the enemy? Only for conservatives who want to believe that everyone smart enough to oppose our actions in Iraq are traitors.

Cowards hide behind the banner of Patriotism.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-04-2004, 06:25 PM

Damn Dig I have missed you

Get me on ICQ some time

it would be good to catch up with ya

Giorgio_Xo · 05-04-2004, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
They did kill babies. Lots of them.

Ever hear of the My Lai massacre?

504 unarmed women, children and elderly people murdered in one day by US troops.

Don't forget the wholesale use of chemical weapons (Agent Orange) on the Ho Chi Minh trail.

dig420 · 05-04-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Cowards hide behind the banner of Patriotism.

A true patriot stands up when he thinks his country is doing the wrong thing and says so. It takes more guts and more love of country to tell your government it's fucking up in a time of war than it does to wave a flag and go along with it, right or wrong.

If these guys were in charge in 1776 we'd still be pledging allegiance to the queen.

<IMX> · 05-04-2004, 06:30 PM

I gave you his simple explanation, it is up to you and the American public to decide whether to accept or deny its validity.

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Originally posted by dig420
what's his simple explanation? Just because I didn't get arrested doesn't mean I never committed a crime. Why doesn't he just authorize a release of his military records to prove it?

xenophobic · 05-04-2004, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
and we've learned in the time since Vietnam that everything he said was true, right? Telling the truth is siding with the enemy? Only for conservatives who want to believe that everyone smart enough to oppose our actions in Iraq are traitors.

Oh, so all those who served in Vietnam killed babies, and murdered women?

<I>SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.</I>

There is such a thing as an illegal order, following such orders make you a criminal, excuses are like assholes, everyone has one.

Mikey_219Inc · 05-04-2004, 06:33 PM

election years like this really suck - ive always voted third party because look at these two immature cocksuckers. but because i dont want bush for another 4 years, ill probably have to shitcan my 3rd party vote.

kerry and bush are both full of shit. clinton and bush sr. were full of shit. bob dole full of shit. abe lincoln full of shit. gore full of shit.if the majority of americans werent such sheep we might have more choice in our leaders

dig420 · 05-04-2004, 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
Oh, so all those who served in Vietnam killed babies, and murdered women?

<I>SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.</I>

There is such a thing as an illegal order, following such orders make you a criminal, excuses are like assholes, everyone has one.

yep, and Kerry and a shitload of other soldiers could be arrested for what they did there. Again, this isn't something in dispute. Right-wingers aren't mad at him for killing people in Vietnam, they're mad at him for coming back and talking about it. So what's your point?

dig420 · 05-04-2004, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by <IMX>
I gave you his simple explanation, it is up to you and the American public to decide whether to accept or deny its validity.

his simple explanation is that he didn't get court-martialed, therefore he must not have been AWOL.

This is good enough for you? The same guys who are looking under every rock for something to take away Kerry's war hero status? All Bush has to do is say so and that's good enough for you eh?

Truth is, you don't care whether Bush was awol or not. You'll vote for him anyway. There's really nothing that anyone could find out about Bush that would change your mind, because like I said earlier, you never had any kind of intellectual process you went thru before you decided you liked him in the first place. All you care about is not being a hippy

xenophobic · 05-04-2004, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
yep, and Kerry and a shitload of other soldiers could be arrested for what they did there. Again, this isn't something in dispute. Right-wingers aren't mad at him for killing people in Vietnam, they're mad at him for coming back and talking about it. So what's your point?

Well seeing as he all but admitted he is a "war criminal" by definition and this is something you'd like to see in the white house? Give Saddam a call I hear his calenders clean for the next four years.

I think there has been lots of talk on the news about him saying he commited attrocities whilst in vietnam, and that he called his fellow soldiers baby killers, perhaps you missed it?

dig420 · 05-04-2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
Well seeing as he all but admitted he is a "war criminal" by definition and this is something you'd like to see in the white house? Give Saddam a call I hear his calenders clean for the next four years.

I think there has been lots of talk on the news about him saying he commited attrocities whilst in vietnam, and that he called his fellow soldiers baby killers, perhaps you missed it?

yep, he cared enough about his country to fight for it, and then he cared enough about his country to come back and say we were fighting an unjust war in an unwinnable manner.

I didn't miss his comments. Perhaps you missed the part where I said that everything he said is undeniably true?

Centurion · 05-04-2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
the only thing true about that article is that Kerry was in Nha Trang and Bush was AWOL in Alabama.

The National Review is a partisan rag only fit for rabid Bush supporters, and Byron York is a conservative hack with roughly the credibility of Ann Coulter. The Bush campaign is looking into every crevice for ANYONE to say something bad about Kerry's conduct in the war, and this is about the best they can do. Funny how all the servicemen who actually served under and with Kerry love and admire him and say it publically, while the conservative slime campaign has to go and find people who are willing to claim they remember verbatim conversations from 40 years ago concerning people whom they had no reason to believe at the time would be important later.

I wonder if he remembers the exact conversation he had with all the thousands of troops he cared for, or just John Kerry.

It's interesting how a "spontaneous" group of Veterans got together in Washington D.C. today to "denounce" Kerry. They were "outraged" by his anti-war comments and felt they were portrayed as war criminals. Of course, there was the "and I don't think he'd make a good president."

Same thing happened to John McCain when he was running against Bush for the Republican nomination in 2000.

If they were SO outraged..why the hell did they wait for THIRTY years before they called a news conference to condemn Kerry?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-04-2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
Well seeing as he all but admitted he is a "war criminal" by definition and this is something you'd like to see in the white house? Give Saddam a call I hear his calenders clean for the next four years.

I think there has been lots of talk on the news about him saying he commited attrocities whilst in vietnam, and that he called his fellow soldiers baby killers, perhaps you missed it?

Come back to the Present...

Its all happening again...
And you still insist that Bush is the right man...

xenophobic · 05-04-2004, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
Come back to the Present...

Its all happening again...
And you still insist that Bush is the right man...

Oh I do? I don't approve of either, it's always the same come election day - the lesser of two evils.
Jesse Ventura said it is almost impossible to get elected in this country without being a member of the republicans, or the democratic party - and the constitution didn't say anything about only a member of either party could be elected.

This year the merits of most people voting will be to stop one of the them from winning, hardly the thing the forefathers had in mind.

<IMX> · 05-04-2004, 06:54 PM

Look dig,

Anything Karl Rove tells me I believe, after all Bush is a God-fearing everyday man from Texas and Kerry is the New England St Paul / Yale / Bonesman elitist!

Haven't you been watching Bush in the cowboy hat routine?

jeez.

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Originally posted by dig420
The same guys who are looking under every rock for something to take away Kerry's war hero status? All Bush has to do is say so and that's good enough for you eh?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-04-2004, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
Oh I do? I don't approve of either, it's always the same come election day - the lesser of two evils.
Jesse Ventura said it is almost impossible to get elected in this country without being a member of the republicans, or the democratic party - and the constitution didn't say anything about only a member of either party could be elected.

This year the merits of most people voting will be to stop one of the them from winning, hardly the thing the forefathers had in mind.

Goto agree with that

genomega · 05-04-2004, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
It's interesting how a "spontaneous" group of Veterans got together in Washington D.C. today to "denounce" Kerry. They were "outraged" by his anti-war comments and felt they were portrayed as war criminals. Of course, there was the "and I don't think he'd make a good president."

Same thing happened to John McCain when he was running against Bush for the Republican nomination in 2000.

If they were SO outraged..why the hell did they wait for THIRTY years before they called a news conference to condemn Kerry?

They did not wait 30 years they were on 60 minutes 3 or 4 years ago denouncing him as a war criminal. They shot up a village full of women and children.

dig420 · 05-04-2004, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by genomega
They did not wait 30 years they were on 60 minutes 3 or 4 years ago denouncing him as a war criminal. They shot up a village full of women and children.

oh not just then, they've been bashing Kerry ever since Nixon sicced them on him. Do you read anyone else's posts or just type on autopilot?

dig420 · 05-04-2004, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by <IMX>
Look dig,

Anything Karl Rove tells me I believe, after all Bush is a God-fearing everyday man from Texas and Kerry is the New England St Paul / Yale / Bonesman elitist!

Haven't you been watching Bush in the cowboy hat routine?

jeez.

ok you convinced me

Thong Sniper · 05-05-2004, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Buff
I think you need to look up the word "ironic," because there was no irony whatsoever. You made a stupid remark based on a stupid assumption, and I called you on it.

It's ironic to me that a guy named buff who's spouting right wing propaganda is telling me that I should open my mind when he's so brain washed by closed minded conservatives he felt the need to libel a decorated war vetran who's running for president on a adult buisness message board.

I'm close minded? Right, and the person you're helping by posting this ficticious claim is an open minded Bible thumper with a heart of gold. Go fuck yourself, stupid.

Corleone · 05-05-2004, 10:38 AM

Vote4Kerry

theking · 05-05-2004, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by Buff
May 04, 2004, 4:26 p.m.
Kerry Purple Heart Doc Speaks Out
The medical description of his first wound.

By Byron York

Some critics of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry have questioned the circumstances surrounding the first of three Purple Hearts Kerry won in Vietnam. Those critics, among them some of Kerry's fellow veterans, have suggested that a wound suffered by Kerry in December 1968 may have made him technically eligible for a Purple Heart but was not severe enough to warrant serious consideration, even for a decoration that was handed out by the thousands. Whatever the case, Kerry was awarded the Purple Heart, and, along with two others he won later, it allowed him to request to leave Vietnam before his tour of duty was finished.

Kerry was treated for the wound at a medical facility in Cam Ranh Bay. The doctor who treated Kerry, Louis Letson, is today a retired general practitioner in Alabama. Letson says he remembers his brief encounter with Kerry 35 years ago because "some of his crewmen related that Lt. Kerry had told them that he would be the next JFK from Massachusetts." Letson says that last year, as the Democratic campaign began to heat up, he told friends that he remembered treating one of the candidates many years ago. In response to their questions, Letson says, he wrote down his recollections of the time. (Letson says he has had no contacts with anyone from the Bush campaign or the Republican party.) What follows is Letson's memory, as he wrote it.
[QUOTE[
I have a very clear memory of an incident which occurred while I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay.
John Kerry was a (jg), the OinC or skipper of a Swift boat, newly arrived in Vietnam. On the night of December 2, he was on patrol north of Cam Ranh, up near Nha Trang area. The next day he came to sick bay, the medical facility, for treatment of a wound that had occurred that night.

The story he told was different from what his crewmen had to say about that night. According to Kerry, they had been engaged in a fire fight, receiving small arms fire from on shore. He said that his injury resulted from this enemy action.

Some of his crew confided that they did not receive any fire from shore, but that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore. The crewman thought that the injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting from that mortar round when it struck the rocks.

That seemed to fit the injury which I treated.

What I saw was a small piece of metal sticking very superficially in the skin of Kerry's arm. The metal fragment measured about 1 cm. in length and was about 2 or 3 mm in diameter. It certainly did not look like a round from a rifle.

I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not require any sutures to close the wound.

The wound was covered with a bandaid.

Not [sic] other injuries were reported and I do not recall that there was any reported damage to the boat.

What a fucking joke of a human being Kerry is. Contrast this piece of shit with Pat Tillman.

That this Dr. Louis Letson was the doctor of record is being questioned at this point. In addition any wound that requires treatment (SOP is to order a person to be treated to avoid infection) no matter how minor makes one eligible for the Purple Heart.

Theo · 05-05-2004, 11:02 AM

it seems Kerry's public image isn't any better

theking · 05-05-2004, 11:10 AM

John O?Neill has been a nemesis of Senator Kerry since the '60's. He makes...what I consider to be incredible statments. An example would be from last night during an interview. He said that a Commanding Officer of Kerry's for a period of three weeks...said that he did not approve Kerry's 1st Purple Heart because he felt that it was a "self inflicted" wound. Yet that same Commanding Officer in a report praised Kerry with the highest of laurel's. Most...if not all...Commanding Officers who thought that...even the lowest of ranking personell under their Command...had self inflicted a wound would have made out some kind of report...and if it were an Officer he would certainly be negligent in the performance of his duty not to do so...and to order/request that the Officer in question be removed from his Command. So I call John O?Neill's statements BS.

scamdotcom · 05-05-2004, 11:10 AM

I'd rather vote for a dead dog than George Bush...so Kerry doesn't look that bad right now.

CraigA · 05-05-2004, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
the only thing true about that article is that Kerry was in Nha Trang and Bush was AWOL in Alabama.

The National Review is a partisan rag only fit for rabid Bush supporters, and Byron York is a conservative hack with roughly the credibility of Ann Coulter. The Bush campaign is looking into every crevice for ANYONE to say something bad about Kerry's conduct in the war, and this is about the best they can do. Funny how all the servicemen who actually served under and with Kerry love and admire him and say it publically, while the conservative slime campaign has to go and find people who are willing to claim they remember verbatim conversations from 40 years ago concerning people whom they had no reason to believe at the time would be important later.

I wonder if he remembers the exact conversation he had with all the thousands of troops he cared for, or just John Kerry.

Bingo. Well said. I can't believe the audacity of the right wing to bring this shit up when their guy was fucking off somewhere on supposed National Guard duty and our invisible Vice President Cheney was getting another student deferment.
Desparation breeds this type of nonsense.

FTVGirls · 05-05-2004, 12:27 PM

bufferover · 05-05-2004, 12:29 PM

Klinton was war hero, Bush was war hero now and this guy

nicchick · 05-05-2004, 01:03 PM

What a bunch of crap-
Some right wingers are claiming that Kerry wasn't injured badly enough to deserve the Purple Heart-
But NOBODY is disputing the fact that he rescued a Green Beret soldier from the Bay Hap River in Vietnam while wounded and under heavy enemy fire.

I'd like to hear of 1 single time when Bush ever showed any courage in his life- ( Oh yeah- He stopped getting drunk every night when he turned 40 - How courageous ).
As far as his calling some of the other soldiers over there "Baby killers", hasn't anyone here ever heard of the My Lai Massacre ?
http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/M/My-Lai-massacre.htm

I hope they continue to question Kerry's courage because it invites comparisons between his bravery and our Chickenhawk presidents complete lack of the same.

bizmak · 05-05-2004, 02:09 PM

Just don't vote...

Buff · 05-06-2004, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by Thong Sniper
It's ironic to me that a guy named buff who's spouting right wing propaganda is telling me that I should open my mind when he's so brain washed by closed minded conservatives he felt the need to libel a decorated war vetran who's running for president on a adult buisness message board.

I'm close minded? Right, and the person you're helping by posting this ficticious claim is an open minded Bible thumper with a heart of gold. Go fuck yourself, stupid.

I'm not a conservative, you leftard dipshit. And Kerry is an admitted war criminal -- that's what you want for President -- a person who has admitted to committing war atrocities??? You leftards are so stupid you flip flop back and forth between 5 sides of a 2 sided issue.

Buff · 05-06-2004, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by theking
That this Dr. Louis Letson was the doctor of record is being questioned at this point. In addition any wound that requires treatment (SOP is to order a person to be treated to avoid infection) no matter how minor makes one eligible for the Purple Heart.

False. In most cases the wound has to be imposed by the enemy. Not "any" wound.

Buff · 05-06-2004, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by theking
John O?Neill has been a nemesis of Senator Kerry since the '60's. He makes...what I consider to be incredible statments. An example would be from last night during an interview. He said that a Commanding Officer of Kerry's for a period of three weeks...said that he did not approve Kerry's 1st Purple Heart because he felt that it was a "self inflicted" wound. Yet that same Commanding Officer in a report praised Kerry with the highest of laurel's. Most...if not all...Commanding Officers who thought that...even the lowest of ranking personell under their Command...had self inflicted a wound would have made out some kind of report...and if it were an Officer he would certainly be negligent in the performance of his duty not to do so...and to order/request that the Officer in question be removed from his Command. So I call John O?Neill's statements BS.

He checked a fucking box on a standard form and like he and other commanders did for just about everyone who served, he checked the highest box. It's not like he wrote an essay saying Kerry was a good soldier. He simple put a check in a box. Anyone who has been a soldier, sailor, airman, or marine knows what these evaluation forms look like, and they don't mean a whole lot.

theking · 05-06-2004, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Buff
False. In most cases the wound has to be imposed by the enemy. Not "any" wound.

You are correct...and I made the mistake of not specifying a wound received via the enemy...as I assumed that it would be assumed.

theking · 05-06-2004, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by Buff
He checked a fucking box on a standard form and like he and other commanders did for just about everyone who served, he checked the highest box. It's not like he wrote an essay saying Kerry was a good soldier. He simple put a check in a box. Anyone who has been a soldier, sailor, airman, or marine knows what these evaluation forms look like, and they don't mean a whole lot.

I spent 12 years in the Army so I am fully aware of how an eval works and what they mean...and you are wrong when you say they do not mean a whole lot. If an Officer gets less than a perfect eval...it may very well be a career ender...and I suggest that most...if not all Commanding Officers would give less than a perfect eval if they in fact believed that a subordinate Officer self inflicted a wound. I also suggest that most if not all Commanding Officers would ask for that Officer to be removed from their command and at the least would be derelict in their duty if they did not at least make some kind of report about said Officer.

XxXotic · 05-06-2004, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Buff
May 04, 2004, 4:26 p.m.
Kerry Purple Heart Doc Speaks Out
The medical description of his first wound.

By Byron York

Some critics of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry have questioned the circumstances surrounding the first of three Purple Hearts Kerry won in Vietnam. Those critics, among them some of Kerry's fellow veterans, have suggested that a wound suffered by Kerry in December 1968 may have made him technically eligible for a Purple Heart but was not severe enough to warrant serious consideration, even for a decoration that was handed out by the thousands. Whatever the case, Kerry was awarded the Purple Heart, and, along with two others he won later, it allowed him to request to leave Vietnam before his tour of duty was finished.

Kerry was treated for the wound at a medical facility in Cam Ranh Bay. The doctor who treated Kerry, Louis Letson, is today a retired general practitioner in Alabama. Letson says he remembers his brief encounter with Kerry 35 years ago because "some of his crewmen related that Lt. Kerry had told them that he would be the next JFK from Massachusetts." Letson says that last year, as the Democratic campaign began to heat up, he told friends that he remembered treating one of the candidates many years ago. In response to their questions, Letson says, he wrote down his recollections of the time. (Letson says he has had no contacts with anyone from the Bush campaign or the Republican party.) What follows is Letson's memory, as he wrote it.
I have a very clear memory of an incident which occurred while I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay.
John Kerry was a (jg), the OinC or skipper of a Swift boat, newly arrived in Vietnam. On the night of December 2, he was on patrol north of Cam Ranh, up near Nha Trang area. The next day he came to sick bay, the medical facility, for treatment of a wound that had occurred that night.

The story he told was different from what his crewmen had to say about that night. According to Kerry, they had been engaged in a fire fight, receiving small arms fire from on shore. He said that his injury resulted from this enemy action.

Some of his crew confided that they did not receive any fire from shore, but that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore. The crewman thought that the injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting from that mortar round when it struck the rocks.

That seemed to fit the injury which I treated.

What I saw was a small piece of metal sticking very superficially in the skin of Kerry's arm. The metal fragment measured about 1 cm. in length and was about 2 or 3 mm in diameter. It certainly did not look like a round from a rifle.

I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not require any sutures to close the wound.

The wound was covered with a bandaid.

Not [sic] other injuries were reported and I do not recall that there was any reported damage to the boat.

What a fucking joke of a human being Kerry is. Contrast this piece of shit with Pat Tillman.

how many purple hearts do you have again? superficial wounds or not?

oh yeah, none!

Buff · 05-06-2004, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
I spent 12 years in the Army so I am fully aware of how an eval works and what they mean...and you are wrong when you say they do not mean a whole lot. If an Officer gets less than a perfect eval...it may very well be a career ender...and I suggest that most...if not all Commanding Officers would give less than a perfect eval if they in fact believed that a subordinate Officer self inflicted a wound. I also suggest that most if not all Commanding Officers would ask for that Officer to be removed from their command and at the least would be derelict in their duty if they did not at least make some kind of report about said Officer.

You and I both know that most people get "satisfactory" or better on every single review even though most people are abject shitbags. So don't give me that shit. At the time he gave the eval, he hadn't even been in the fucking unit for a month -- how could he give a superior review??? It's all just going through the motions.

Buff · 05-06-2004, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
how many purple hearts do you have again? superficial wounds or not?

oh yeah, none!

One. I have One (1) Purple Heart. I received it for a bullet wound in Central America in 1994. How about the next time you open your dicksucker, you do something useful with it, like fill it with a cock.

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Mikey_219Inc Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i dont even know ... Posts: 1,876	election years like this really suck - ive always voted third party because look at these two immature cocksuckers. but because i dont want bush for another 4 years, ill probably have to shitcan my 3rd party vote. kerry and bush are both full of shit. clinton and bush sr. were full of shit. bob dole full of shit. abe lincoln full of shit. gore full of shit.if the majority of americans werent such sheep we might have more choice in our leaders __________________ Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

05-05-2004, 11:10 AM	#78
theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	John O?Neill has been a nemesis of Senator Kerry since the '60's. He makes...what I consider to be incredible statments. An example would be from last night during an interview. He said that a Commanding Officer of Kerry's for a period of three weeks...said that he did not approve Kerry's 1st Purple Heart because he felt that it was a "self inflicted" wound. Yet that same Commanding Officer in a report praised Kerry with the highest of laurel's. Most...if not all...Commanding Officers who thought that...even the lowest of ranking personell under their Command...had self inflicted a wound would have made out some kind of report...and if it were an Officer he would certainly be negligent in the performance of his duty not to do so...and to order/request that the Officer in question be removed from his Command. So I call John O?Neill's statements BS. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

05-05-2004, 11:10 AM	#79
scamdotcom Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 138	I'd rather vote for a dead dog than George Bush...so Kerry doesn't look that bad right now. __________________ Report Scams Here - scam.com

05-04-2004, 06:19 PM	#51
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4534274/ all you need to know about O'Neill and Swoop's organization. but MSNBC is a liberal biased publication right? None of these guys ever say anything about what Kerry did in Vietnam, they're all pissed about what he said afterward. The Bushites try to spin that into something disreputable about his service.

05-05-2004, 10:38 AM	#75
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	Vote4Kerry

05-05-2004, 11:02 AM	#77
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	it seems Kerry's public image isn't any better

05-05-2004, 12:27 PM	#81
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052

05-05-2004, 12:29 PM	#82
bufferover Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 25,203	Klinton was war hero, Bush was war hero now and this guy

05-05-2004, 01:03 PM	#83
nicchick Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 316	What a bunch of crap- Some right wingers are claiming that Kerry wasn't injured badly enough to deserve the Purple Heart- But NOBODY is disputing the fact that he rescued a Green Beret soldier from the Bay Hap River in Vietnam while wounded and under heavy enemy fire. I'd like to hear of 1 single time when Bush ever showed any courage in his life- ( Oh yeah- He stopped getting drunk every night when he turned 40 - How courageous ). As far as his calling some of the other soldiers over there "Baby killers", hasn't anyone here ever heard of the My Lai Massacre ? http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/M/My-Lai-massacre.htm I hope they continue to question Kerry's courage because it invites comparisons between his bravery and our Chickenhawk presidents complete lack of the same.

05-05-2004, 02:09 PM	#84
bizmak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 10,014	Just don't vote...