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Old 06-14-2004, 11:28 AM   #1
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Spam Cop is going down!!!

http://news.com.com/2100-1024_3-5210...feed&subj=news

A Northern California District Court judge issued a temporary restraining order to prevent SpamCop, an antispam operation, from interfering with messages sent by alleged junk e-mailer

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Old 06-14-2004, 11:33 AM   #2
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there is still brightmail
i dont get any spam to my hotmail, they're doing an amazing job
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Old 06-14-2004, 11:51 AM   #3
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I am not a big fan of spam at all, but I truly hope all these anti Idiots like spews, spamcop, spamhaus etc...get shut down fast. They are really making it bad for good hosts and isp's. They are asswipes with no validity at all and are infringing on peoples rights.
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Old 06-14-2004, 11:53 AM   #4
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oh oh, this thread might get ugly
watch out for all the anti spam dudes to come in here throwing shit
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Old 06-14-2004, 11:54 AM   #5
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www.ytcracker.com download some spam songs yea!
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Old 06-14-2004, 12:04 PM   #6
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pardon me while I do the happy dance
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Old 06-14-2004, 12:29 PM   #7
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ive never liked spamcop. even though i do like not getting spam. they are a bunch of damn nazis.
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Old 06-14-2004, 12:40 PM   #8
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I am not a big fan of spam at all, but I truly hope all these anti Idiots like spews, spamcop, spamhaus etc...get shut down fast. They are really making it bad for good hosts and isp's. They are asswipes with no validity at all and are infringing on peoples rights.
Exactly. They shut downs a friends site because a competitor spammed their site. Spamcop would not listen and just shut down the site.

Judge jury and executioner, good riddance to them.
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Old 06-14-2004, 12:41 PM   #9
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Exactly. They shut downs a friends site because a competitor spammed their site. Spamcop would not listen and just shut down the site.

Judge jury and executioner, good riddance to them.
its fair enough filtering spam, but not going after it like a vigilante
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Old 06-14-2004, 01:01 PM   #10
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:15 PM   #11
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:20 PM   #12
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there is still brightmail
i dont get any spam to my hotmail, they're doing an amazing job
brightmail good people. they are housed just next to our servers at 365main.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:22 PM   #13
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I find it nothing short of ironic that Ironport sells mail servers and owns Spamcop, which appears to be a great way to get the worlds best remove list.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:22 PM   #14
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Spam Cop rocks. I'm donating to their defense fund and I suggest that everyone else does the same. The link is on their home page. http://www.spamcop.net/
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Old 06-14-2004, 03:20 PM   #15
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I am not a big fan of spam at all, but I truly hope all these anti Idiots like spews, spamcop, spamhaus etc...get shut down fast. They are really making it bad for good hosts and isp's. They are asswipes with no validity at all and are infringing on peoples rights.
totally agree!

fucked them all, we don't spam but each 2-3 months we change IP addresses of our servers, as they somehow get listed in their fucking databases.
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:49 PM   #16
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Spam Cop rocks. I'm donating to their defense fund and I suggest that everyone else does the same. The link is on their home page. http://www.spamcop.net/
At least there are few non-spamming/scamming webmasters on this board. I get the paid SPAMCOP service and I may send them a check too. I use their RBL daily to filter my mail.

And for all you slimeballs who are jumping for joy because of the info that the under-educated, third-rate spammer wannabe CAHEK told you , the Temporary Restraining Order was REVERSED the next day.

http://www.mailutilities.com/news/2412.html
http://www.ironport.com/pdf/ironport_2004-05-12.pdf

You would think that Richter was busy enough getting sued by Microsoft. I look forward to the day when Richter and some major of the Sponsors and Webhosts on GFY who have been been clogging the internet with their SPAM turds, get the fines and prison sentences that they so truly deserve.........
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:56 PM   #17
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When I worked at an email provider and spam/virus filtering company, Spamcop was one of our biggest problems.

RBL filtering is both the least effective and most destructive way of filtering for spam. I have no respect for admins who use it.
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:59 PM   #18
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:59 PM   #19
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we writin spamhaus

we writin spamhaus

we writin spamhaus

we writin spamhaus


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Old 06-14-2004, 07:05 PM   #21
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watch out for all the anti spam dudes to come in here throwing shit
Unless you're a rat bastard spammer yourself, why would you or anyone be "pro-spam"??


For the record I didn't like spamcop's tactics either. The accusatory nature of their emails always sounded like they had already decided you were guilty. I'm for anything that reduces the worst kind of blatant spam, but for someone who is running a legit opt-in/opt-out list some of these organizations can make it quite tough.
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Old 06-14-2004, 07:08 PM   #22
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Never understood why responsible people like a news reporting agency dont understand the difference between "E-mail Marketing" and "Spam".

One is legitimate.

The other is not.


If a site allows anonymous recipients to claim "spam" instead of complying with the Can-Spam law's requirement to opt-out, then how can the can-spam law be effective?

I could go join dr. phils website, check the box to join the newsletter, then report his site to spam cop sites until I'm blue in the face. Should his newsletters be blocked?

This is one of those areas I need education with, so thanks for any replies.

I feel like a targetted opt-in mailer for my bookmarkers would be the cats meow, but if ONE asshole decides to report me, I'm boned. And that seems to be how easy it would be
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Old 06-14-2004, 08:31 PM   #23
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Just to put my in...

I've had two dealings with spamcop, but never any problems.

1) Someone spammed with a list of webcam sites, mine was one of them. I never figured out who did it, or why. Spamcop marked it as a joe job/colateral damage without being anal about it. I think I'm still in SPEWS as there are a lot of real spammers in the same IP block as that server.

2) As the listed contact of an IP address range I was auto-emailed a complaint about a spam that had originated from a PC on my network. It turns out it was a W98 machine that had been IE exploited with a proxy trojan. The damn thing was fully patched, but IE is still full of holes. I wouldn't have known about it if I hadn't received that complaint.
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