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Old 05-02-2004, 02:22 AM   #1
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What the fuck would you do if you were me?

So we have a maid that comes in once a week.
Her name is Katalina and she is in her early 20's.
Her mom used to work for us, but Katy has been taking over a few clients for her.

I left for the day and when I came back, the work was barely done. When I asked Mike WTF, he said he sent her home cause she told him she would clean the house naked for an extra 100$, and maybe more for more money. She told him that many of the other customers have her clean this way.

Nice how she waits for me to be away before generously offering her services. She is not cute at all and has bad teeth and skin.

Mike wants to fire her, but I feel bad for her. It would have been different if she asked me or when I was here. Hell, I would have given her 100$ to keep her clothes on.

Should I let her go?
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Old 05-02-2004, 02:27 AM   #2
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Dunno, your call. I wouldn't fire someone for offering to get naked. Sounds like an interesting niche she's covering.
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Old 05-02-2004, 02:28 AM   #3
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tell her for that $100 you want to take pics of her and sell them on the net.
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Dunno, your call. I wouldn't fire someone for offering to get naked. Sounds like an interesting niche she's covering.
Yea, I'll set up a webcam so people can see my house keeper nude!

Hey, that's not a bad idea.....
but i'm gonna have to hire a better looking girl if I expect to make any money!
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Old 05-02-2004, 02:32 AM   #5
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tell her for that $100 you want to take pics of her and sell them on the net.
She's not exactly legal....how would I go about that?
Pay her under the table and just have her sign a model consent form? Her Hungarian papers are unreadable to me.
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sounds liek you and your man are pretty tight
you're lucky he's not like most blokes would have taken her up on the offer

i guess whether you kepe her or not depends on how many peopel does she clean like this for? and hwo big is your town ? LOL
you might get a bit of a rep with the neighbors hehehe

as long as she's over 18 and got ID - grab some content of her
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Old 05-02-2004, 02:45 AM   #7
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sounds liek you and your man are pretty tight
you're lucky he's not like most blokes would have taken her up on the offer

i guess whether you kepe her or not depends on how many peopel does she clean like this for? and hwo big is your town ? LOL
you might get a bit of a rep with the neighbors hehehe

as long as she's over 18 and got ID - grab some content of her
according to him she just said "some others"
I wouldn't chance it with an illegal though, she might say how desperate she was and that we took advantage of her, and that would make us look bad.

The funny thing is, I so would have got a kick out of it if she did this while I was there! I wouldn't have let him send her home.

I told my mom and she asked if Katy had a brother who cleans!
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I hope my cleaning lady never asks that... she's in her 50's and just not attractive
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Hmmm
Is her story the same story?
Did you ask her yet if this is what happened?
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Time for a reality check.


Mike fucked her. You can bank on it.

His cover story is pretty fucking weak too. They say love is blind so I would expect you would overlook the line of shit he just fed you...but....The truth is, he probably banged the living hell out of her. She did not wait until you were gone....HE DID.

I'm not trying to be a dick....I am stating probable facts.
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Hmmm
Is her story the same story?
Did you ask her yet if this is what happened?
I haven't spoke to her yet...
she is supposed to come on thursday. She left a message saying "Am I still to clean on dursday? Sorrie I don finish before, please don be anngry. Can I come on dursday still? If no, let me know so I can sedule with other peoples. Tank you and dis is Katy.)
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I told my mom and she asked if Katy had a brother who cleans!
haha there is a cleaning company in OZ that has all nude cleaners - they are making a small killing from it
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Mike fucked her. You can bank on it.

His cover story is pretty fucking weak too. They say love is blind so I would expect you would overlook the line of shit he just fed you...but....The truth is, he probably banged the living hell out of her. She did not wait until you were gone....HE DID.

I'm not trying to be a dick....I am stating probable facts.
Do you know them personally?

If not how can you say these are probable facts?
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if i were you i'd see if she'd do it for $50 instead of $100

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Do you know them personally?

If not how can you say these are probable facts?
He's a guy....He has a dick....His story is weak.

1+1+1=3. Do the math.
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Back to the subject of your post...

If she's just a poor illegal worker and what Mike said is true, then maybe the $100 offer was a geniune effort for her to make more money.

If the girl does a good enough job at cleaning for the price you pay her, then I say keep her. She could just be trying to earn a living...
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Mike fucked her. You can bank on it.

His cover story is pretty fucking weak too. They say love is blind so I would expect you would overlook the line of shit he just fed you...but....The truth is, he probably banged the living hell out of her. She did not wait until you were gone....HE DID.

I'm not trying to be a dick....I am stating probable facts.
Mike is one of those guys who is brutally fuckin honest, even for his own good. He wouldn't be able to live with himself and still sleep with me if he didn't tell the truth. He is the worlds worst at telling lies, even if they are white lies to protect someones feelings.

I am going to call her and tell her to come on thursday. I will ask her in a way that suggests I'm the one who would be interested in seeing her nekkid. Her reaction will tell me.
If I suspect one funny thing, I'll offer her 10,000$ cash to tell me the truth.
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Mike is one of those guys who is brutally fuckin honest, even for his own good. He wouldn't be able to live with himself and still sleep with me if he didn't tell the truth. He is the worlds worst at telling lies, even if they are white lies to protect someones feelings.

I am going to call her and tell her to come on thursday. I will ask her in a way that suggests I'm the one who would be interested in seeing her nekkid. Her reaction will tell me.
If I suspect one funny thing, I'll offer her 10,000$ cash to tell me the truth.
Wow sounds like a nice jealous woman, your shit is already fucked up if you would offer your maid $10g's to tell you she slept with your man. Good luck.

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I'd fire her.. who the hell needs an ugly maid? :D
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Back to the subject of your post...

If she's just a poor illegal worker and what Mike said is true, then maybe the $100 offer was a geniune effort for her to make more money.

If the girl does a good enough job at cleaning for the price you pay her, then I say keep her. She could just be trying to earn a living...
That's what I'm banking on. I'm sure one of her other clients offered to pay her more to see her work nude and that's where it started. She probably figured it would be ok after being in the office when we're working on sites and stuff.
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He's a guy....He has a dick....His story is weak.

1+1+1=3. Do the math.

Maybe the story is legit....

... and the girls "Mom" is not really her mom, but her maid-pimp.

ie the M/o is... Get a new client, Mom works for them for
a few days to check the place out a little & then sends in
the girl.

And the maid-pimp madame brings over all the
little girlies from back home to come work for her.
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Did I mention that Mike's story is complete horseshit?

He found it OK for him to make the decision to send her home after she supposedly propositioned him...BUT...He can not seem to make the decision on his own to fire her?

If he was uncomfortable enough to send her home then the other decision is a no brainer......Unless there is guilt involved. Now it is a question of who Evelyn chooses to believe?.Her man or the broke housekeeper who is struggling to get by and offers ?optional services? for addition fees.

She probably did make the offer?..Mike probably did send her home. It?s what happened in between that is questionable.

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Yea, I'll set up a webcam so people can see my house keeper nude!

Hey, that's not a bad idea.....
but i'm gonna have to hire a better looking girl if I expect to make any money!
Some webmasters always told me that ugly works?
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Mike is one of those guys who is brutally fuckin honest, even for his own good. He wouldn't be able to live with himself and still sleep with me if he didn't tell the truth. He is the worlds worst at telling lies, even if they are white lies to protect someones feelings.

I am going to call her and tell her to come on thursday. I will ask her in a way that suggests I'm the one who would be interested in seeing her nekkid. Her reaction will tell me.
If I suspect one funny thing, I'll offer her 10,000$ cash to tell me the truth.
If you were really sold on Mike's honesty then you would not be talking about offering 10 grand for the "truth."

For 10g's......I'll tell you that I fucked him.
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Wow sounds like a nice jealous woman, your shit is already fucked up if you would offer your maid $10g's to tell you she slept with your man. Good luck.

Nah, I'm not the jealous type. It wouldn't have lasted 9 years if I was. As far as the money, money talks and a figure like that in her situation would be hard to turn down. Obviously, I'd low ball her with the initial offer, but I'm prepared to pay to get the truth if that what it comes down to. Besides, I'd just take the money from his account.

If she said yes, I'd tell her that she would have to suck his dick 1000 times or I'd turn her in. Then I'd give Mike a booklet with 1000 Katy suck dick coupons in it along with my walking papers!
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Maybe the story is legit....

... and the girls "Mom" is not really her mom, but her maid-pimp.

ie the M/o is... Get a new client, Mom works for them for
a few days to check the place out a little & then sends in
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And the maid-pimp madame brings over all the
little girlies from back home to come work for her.
That would be soo fucking funny that it would bring tears to my eyes if it were true!!!
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That would be soo fucking funny that it would bring tears to my eyes if it were true!!!
You could always ask them if they wouldn't mind submitting a hair sample for DNA testing... tell them your friend works in a lab.
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I haven't spoke to her yet...
she is supposed to come on thursday. She left a message saying "Am I still to clean on dursday? Sorrie I don finish before, please don be anngry. Can I come on dursday still? If no, let me know so I can sedule with other peoples. Tank you and dis is Katy.)
If I were you I would wait until I spoke to her. Maybe there is more to this. I am not saying Mike lied (maybe he did maybe he didn't) but it can also be some miscommunication. Her english is pretty bad? u2 are doing porn on the internet with her around...
And another thing to consider... If this is what happened she just wanted to make some extra money. She is interested in money and not so much in Mike if I understand the story correctly. When sh starts offering this for free then you have reason to worry...
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If I were you I would wait until I spoke to her. Maybe there is more to this. I am not saying Mike lied (maybe he did maybe he didn't) but it can also be some miscommunication. Her english is pretty bad? u2 are doing porn on the internet with her around...
And another thing to consider... If this is what happened she just wanted to make some extra money. She is interested in money and not so much in Mike if I understand the story correctly. When sh starts offering this for free then you have reason to worry...
For all I know, her wolverine, Yuri, could have died and she had to leave early, and Mike is just making it sound more scandalous so I'll want his d**k more!

I think she's just looking for more money which is why I said I feel sorry for her.
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For all I know, her wolverine, Yuri, could have died and she had to leave early, and Mike is just making it sound more scandalous so I'll want his d**k more!

I thought he didn't lie?
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And by the way:

I wasn't supposed to be gone long. I just ran to the market to get some groceries (sale on artichokes!) and I ran into a friend.
We went to lunch and she wanted me to come back to her store with her to see her new designs.

It would be more suspicious if Mike had Katy come when I was on an overnight, or he knew I was gonna be away long.
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Something about a woman going behind my back to ask my man for sex.. that would be an instant asswhoopin for disrespecting my household .
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I thought he didn't lie?
LOL! I'm joking! Who, besides you, actually has a pet wolverine named Yuri?
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And by the way:

I wasn't supposed to be gone long. I just ran to the market to get some groceries (sale on artichokes!) and I ran into a friend.
We went to lunch and she wanted me to come back to her store with her to see her new designs.

This solidifies my point. He had to bang her then get her out of the house with an excuse as to why the work was not done. He knew you were not gone long and his time was limited. If they had more time then he would have banger her AND she would have finished the other job as well.

How would he have explained why nothing had been done around the house since you left?

Open your eyes.
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jesus christ you all are some negative fuckers when it comes to relationships....

i have worked around naked girls my whole life, and had PLENTY of chances at TONS of porn conventions when my wife went back to the hotel room.....i could have fucked tons of girls...but sorry, there are some of us monogamous faithful people left that dedicate our lives to our other half...nothin EVER is worth jepordizing my relationship I have with my wife...nothing

kudos to mike for going to you first, i woudl have done the same thing....no major decision is made in our hjouse without both peopel consenting...and that includes firing someone that does good work for us
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This solidifies my point. He had to bang her then get her out of the house with an excuse as to why the work was not done. He knew you were not gone long and his time was limited. If they had more time then he would have banger her AND she would have finished the other job as well.

How would he have explained why nothing had been done around the house since you left?

Open your eyes.
The shit was half done. Wouldn't she have stayed and kept on as nothing had happened? Don't you think he would have been under more scrutiny with that story than if I had come home and it was work as usual?

As a cover up, it would have been better for her to stay here and finish her shit.
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Old 05-02-2004, 03:58 AM   #39
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Something about a woman going behind my back to ask my man for sex.. that would be an instant asswhoopin for disrespecting my household .
i didn't see the part where she asked for sex...i just thought she would clean the house naked....?
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As a cover up, it would have been better for her to stay here and finish her shit.
but what did he have to cover up?

man, you let these dudes get to you too much here

wrong thing coming to a hating forum to ask adive from a bunch of dudes like this.....they don't think any man can be faithful
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i didn't see the part where she asked for sex...i just thought she would clean the house naked....?
She said 100$ to clean nude and "maybe more for more"
I took it as more money for more nude services.
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She said 100$ to clean nude and "maybe more for more"
I took it as more money for more nude services.
the point is, do you trust your man? if so, move on to the next topic of should you fire her? i say yes, just cause she will probably push it again later, and it could get ugly....
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jesus christ you all are some negative fuckers when it comes to relationships....

i have worked around naked girls my whole life, and had PLENTY of chances at TONS of porn conventions when my wife went back to the hotel room.....i could have fucked tons of girls...but sorry, there are some of us monogamous faithful people left that dedicate our lives to our other half...nothin EVER is worth jepordizing my relationship I have with my wife...nothing

kudos to mike for going to you first, i woudl have done the same thing....no major decision is made in our hjouse without both peopel consenting...and that includes firing someone that does good work for us

Jesus Christ you are one ignorant fool.

I am not about to name names or point fingers but I go to show after show after show and I see people at all levels of this biz who are anything but faithful. People that you have all heard of and many of you have done business with.

The reality of life is that people cheat more often than not. Men do it, women do it, and denying it only makes you look foolish.
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but what did he have to cover up?

man, you let these dudes get to you too much here

wrong thing coming to a hating forum to ask adive from a bunch of dudes like this.....they don't think any man can be faithful
I was just speculating. I know it wasn't a cover up.
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Jesus Christ you are one ignorant fool.

I am not about to name names or point fingers but I go to show after show after show and I see people at all levels of this biz who are anything but faithful. People that you have all heard of and many of you have done business with.

The reality of life is that people cheat more often than not. Men do it, women do it, and denying it only makes you look foolish.
that was not my point, i know over 60% of the population cheats, it is a fact...my point is, some of us DON'T...period...i HAVE NEVER cheated on my wife and have never even had a itch to....there is no way I would ruin what I have to get a piece of nasty ass pussy from some skank I don't know.....and if this Mike is anything like evelyn says, i doubt he would either

just cause 75 people like to get nasty pussy from random people, doesn't mean the other 25 of us do...
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As a cover up, it would have been better for her to stay here and finish her shit.
Wrong. Start thinking like a guy trying to cover something up.

Example:


I know my wife is going to be gone for 30 minutes and I know my maid needs cash. I offer her X$'s for the deed then we do a quick 25 minute shag.

I know my wife is due home any minute so I have the maid leave then I make up an excuse as to why little to no work was done while she was away. I shift the focus and the blame to the maid and kill two birds with one stone.

There is a saying....To catrch a theif, you need to be a theif. You are not thinking as a thief would.
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i didn't see the part where she asked for sex...i just thought she would clean the house naked....?
she propositioned another womans man while that woman was gone from the house..underhanded and not to be trusted. I dont give a fuck how hard up she was for money.. I sitll would have kicked her ass back to the country she is from whether anything happened or not.
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I know my wife is going to be gone for 30 minutes and I know my maid needs cash. I offer her X$'s for the deed then we do a quick 25 minute shag.

I know my wife is due home any minute so I have the maid leave then I make up an excuse as to why little to no work was done while she was away. I shift the focus and the blame to the maid and kill two birds with one stone.

There is a saying....To catrch a theif, you need to be a theif. You are not thinking as a thief would.
haha, man, you are going to make one woman very happy one day! hahahaha
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she propositioned another womans man while that woman was gone from the house..underhanded and not to be trusted. I dont give a fuck how hard up she was for money.. I sitll would have kicked her ass back to the country she is from whether anything happened or not.
your right, i didn't see the more for more shit....she needs to have INS called on her...there are plenty of legit legal hookers in this country, we don't need immigrant hookers too!
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the point is, do you trust your man? if so, move on to the next topic of should you fire her? i say yes, just cause she will probably push it again later, and it could get ugly....
I trust him 1000%! She doesn't seem the aggressive type.
Besides, we already have a notarized list of the people we are allowed to cheat on each other for. She is not on it, and I don't think he would risk it just for her.

I'm hoping she will just leave it at that and not ask again, but if she does, she'll definitly be gone.
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