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doober · 05-10-2004, 06:05 PM

lest not jump the gun Ray, we still need to find out if they will process cards out of North America or else we are all just spinning our wheels

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-10-2004, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by doober
lest not jump the gun Ray, we still need to find out if they will process cards out of North America or else we are all just spinning our wheels

True.

What im excited about is if they can do it why cant CCbill or Ibill expand to Canada and do the same? That would be great.

Ray

ps. I havent forgot about our power lunch. Been having some minor problems with my baby girl the past couple weeks(nothing serious). I should be available by the end of the month.

pornstar2pac · 05-10-2004, 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
Huh? You could at least try to be close when you make up stuff.

40 cents or 65 cents. what's the difference?

Bell · 05-10-2004, 06:38 PM

GiGi (and others)

I recommend you FIRST check out NetBilling.com
(ask for Mitchor Karen)

GiGI - you know me from elsewhere on the net

so I feel a *special* need to protect you
- - p- go with NetBilling.com

~Bell

xxxdesign-net · 05-10-2004, 06:39 PM

Would surely be awesome if they can process cards beyond North America... I have all the trouble in the world finding a "resident agent" in the states.. willing to give out his personal info to ccbill....

hershie · 05-10-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by pornstar2pac
40 cents or 65 cents. what's the difference?

Note To Self: For the love of god, remember never to do business with this guy.

Suckitbitch · 05-10-2004, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by hershie
That's about as solid a backing as you could hope for.

Well no actually, get a few chargebacks and you are done. The Moneris gateway isn't exactly tailored to the kind of fraud you would get in online adult transactions either.

Just ask one of their sales clowns about excessive chargebacks for NON adult transactions, let alone adult.

hershie · 05-10-2004, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by Suckitbitch
Well no actually, get a few chargebacks and you are done. The Moneris gateway isn't exactly tailored to the kind of fraud you would get in online adult transactions either.

Just ask one of their sales clowns about excessive chargebacks for NON adult transactions, let alone adult.

While that may be the case, that's a policy/operational issue that has nothing to do with how solid a company is behind this operation, especially compared to some of the fly-by-nights we have seen and I have personally been burned by.

s0laris2 · 05-10-2004, 07:02 PM

hmm that woulf be cool to have moneris processing adult..

Only prob guys is you will have to pay 7% gst from all the sales..

I used to process adult with Moneris years ago before they stopped it.

I have letters from Revenu canada stating too that all internet sales with no signature, etc will be subject to 7% gst.

I dont know if that will change now.. but it will be a nightmare to manage!

StuartD · 05-10-2004, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by pornstar2pac
40 cents or 65 cents. what's the difference?

what's truly scary is that you're being serious.

WiredGuy · 05-10-2004, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by s0laris2
hmm that woulf be cool to have moneris processing adult..

Only prob guys is you will have to pay 7% gst from all the sales..

I used to process adult with Moneris years ago before they stopped it.

I have letters from Revenu canada stating too that all internet sales with no signature, etc will be subject to 7% gst.

I dont know if that will change now.. but it will be a nightmare to manage!

CCRA are such nice people. They have me on their speed dial

WG

BradM · 05-10-2004, 07:14 PM

Moneris is a good company.... they do all the major debit and cc transactions up here

Suckitbitch · 05-10-2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by hershie
While that may be the case, that's a policy/operational issue that has nothing to do with how solid a company is behind this operation, especially compared to some of the fly-by-nights we have seen and I have personally been burned by.

Monopolistic charter banks in Canada are about as solid as it gets from that standpoint. They also couldn't care less if they get your business or not and can change their minds at any second and decide to stop processing adult transactions.

And like the other guy says... don't forget to charge GST

pornstar2pac · 05-10-2004, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
what's truly scary is that you're being serious.

that's what you want people to think. give them credit, their not dumb

the indigo · 05-10-2004, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe
Actually, its about .65 cents US

Thank god the rates are getting back to something decent..i'm tied of this 1USD = 1.28 CAd shit

.65 cents? That was 2 years ago.

It's 71.69 as of today... dropped from 76 cents a few months back.

monica · 05-10-2004, 07:57 PM

wow... I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for a Candian processor that doesn't do all of their processing overseas... definitely worth looking into.

NETbilling · 05-10-2004, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by the indigo
What do you mean by "North American Credit Cards Only"? A customer from Europe, using his Visa or Mastercard would not be able to join the site?

Since you already work, I guess that integration of Moneris Canada would be easily done with Netbilling?

We are already integrated with Moneris' banking solutions. Does that answer your question or am I missing something.

Mitch

NETbilling · 05-10-2004, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Bell
GiGi (and others)

I recommend you FIRST check out NetBilling.com
(ask for Mitch or Karen)

GiGI - you know me from elsewhere on the net
so I feel a *special* need to protect you
- - p- go with NetBilling.com

~Bell

Thanks for the kind words Bell.

Mitch

Martin · 05-10-2004, 09:12 PM

gigi · 05-11-2004, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bell
GiGi (and others)

I recommend you FIRST check out NetBilling.com
(ask for Mitchor Karen)

GiGI - you know me from elsewhere on the net
so I feel a *special* need to protect you
- - p- go with NetBilling.com

~Bell

Thanks Bell...

*huggs*

Mitch...I'll be contacting you in a day or so...just have to organize myself here. ;)

doober · 05-11-2004, 08:59 AM

So anyome confirm that Credit card info about only being able to process Nort American Credit cards?

What about cb ratios?

biiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzumP

NETbilling · 05-11-2004, 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by gigi
Thanks Bell... *huggs*

Mitch...I'll be contacting you in a day or so...just have to organize myself here. ;)

Sounds great!

Mitch

Indeed · 05-11-2004, 10:17 AM

hmm interesting

L0stMind · 05-11-2004, 11:00 AM

I use moneris for nonadult.

Very little problems with chargebacks... We have only had 2 in the past 3 years...

Will be keeping an eye on this to see where it goes...

vas · 05-11-2004, 02:06 PM

does that mean you can process for canadian webmasters? and help us get setup with the merch?

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Originally posted by netbilling
Sounds great!

Mitch

xxxdesign-net · 05-11-2004, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by L0stMind
I use moneris for nonadult.

Very little problems with chargebacks... We have only had 2 in the past 3 years...

Will be keeping an eye on this to see where it goes...

can you accept transaction outside of North america?

L0stMind · 05-11-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
can you accept transaction outside of North america?

With my regular merchant account I can accept cards from anywhere...

NETbilling · 05-11-2004, 10:02 PM

ok - Here is the scoop

I spoke too soon. We did some transaction analysis today of some of our Moneris merchants and it seems as though for a period of time there were a huge foreign card decline rate but that has sionce subsided and all is well. We have a meeting with Moneris tomorrow about setting up new 5967 accounts so please stay tuned and I will post the results of that meeting here tomorrow night.

Thanks, Mitch

CrazyAL · 05-12-2004, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by netbilling
ok - Here is the scoop

I spoke too soon. We did some transaction analysis today of some of our Moneris merchants and it seems as though for a period of time there were a huge foreign card decline rate but that has sionce subsided and all is well. We have a meeting with Moneris tomorrow about setting up new 5967 accounts so please stay tuned and I will post the results of that meeting here tomorrow night.

Thanks, Mitch

Groovy

webmaster x · 05-12-2004, 04:08 AM

Moneris is an excellent company!

StRoGE · 05-12-2004, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
ok - Here is the scoop

I spoke too soon. We did some transaction analysis today of some of our Moneris merchants and it seems as though for a period of time there were a huge foreign card decline rate but that has sionce subsided and all is well. We have a meeting with Moneris tomorrow about setting up new 5967 accounts so please stay tuned and I will post the results of that meeting here tomorrow night.

Thanks, Mitch

Excellent news! Two

for Moneris and Netbilling!

05-12-2004, 06:05 AM

3.9% only...fuck...good offer.

Paul Waters · 05-12-2004, 06:31 AM

What is 5967 account?

sperbonzo · 05-12-2004, 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by Paul Waters
What is 5967 account?

5967 is the merchant catagory code (MCC) for an adult online account

Martin · 05-12-2004, 07:33 AM

This would be sweet. *Watching with interest*

McKracken · 05-12-2004, 09:11 AM

worth a bump!

CrazyAL · 05-12-2004, 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by McKracken
worth a bump!

monica · 05-12-2004, 10:00 PM

I am definitely interested in hearing how this goes...

DatingGold · 05-12-2004, 10:28 PM

even if they didnt do europe etc. thats only what 10-15%, jsut us geo targetting and send that elsewhere..

but it sounds like they do.

But can you just incorporate there or do you have to physically live in Canada?

NETbilling · 05-13-2004, 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by DatingGold
even if they didnt do europe etc. thats only what 10-15%, jsut us geo targetting and send that elsewhere..

but it sounds like they do.

But can you just incorporate there or do you have to physically live in Canada?

Alan,

You just need to be incorporated or live in the US or Canada. Contact me Monday and I will have more info.

Mitch

Braincash Fred · 05-13-2004, 06:43 AM

Mitch .. do you have an icq number?

Head · 05-13-2004, 07:31 AM

hope it works!!

notjoe · 05-13-2004, 07:51 AM

Netbilling has never helped me. They always say we accept adult this and adult that but when it came down to selling real product and not hot air Netbilling has always failed me.

I've seen mitch, on numerous accounts, say that they will gladly accept tangiable products and yet he was never able to do so for me and all i got was call this person and call that person.

Why go through a 3rd party? Just go directly to Moneris.

DatingGold · 05-13-2004, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe
Netbilling has never helped me. They always say we accept adult this and adult that but when it came down to selling real product and not hot air Netbilling has always failed me.

I've seen mitch, on numerous accounts, say that they will gladly accept tangiable products and yet he was never able to do so for me and all i got was call this person and call that person.

Why go through a 3rd party? Just go directly to Moneris.

yeah I think Mitch got wind of this after reading your thread.. thats why they need until Monday.

cause they never mentioned they had it before.

Mitch is a good guy though

psyko514 · 05-13-2004, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
5967 is the merchant catagory code (MCC) for an adult online account

not just online adult... but online adult does fall into that category. the category is called "Inbound Teleservices Merchant" and it includes anyone providing services/information (not tangible goods). adult websites are included, but so are regular websites offering subscriptions as well as things like sports tips lines and horoscope lines.

all in all, this is some pretty awesome news. for those thinking the merchant fees seem a little low, keep in mind that we're talking the fees for a merchant account, not for processing through a 3rd party IPSP.

CCBill Canada would be like a dream come true!

CoolE · 05-13-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514
CCBill Canada would be like a dream come true!

I'll say. Corvette, are you out there? Can you comment?

CrazyAL · 05-13-2004, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
not just online adult... but online adult does fall into that category. the category is called "Inbound Teleservices Merchant" and it includes anyone providing services/information (not tangible goods). adult websites are included, but so are regular websites offering subscriptions as well as things like sports tips lines and horoscope lines.

all in all, this is some pretty awesome news. for those thinking the merchant fees seem a little low, keep in mind that we're talking the fees for a merchant account, not for processing through a 3rd party IPSP.

CCBill Canada would be like a dream come true!

I have contacted CCBill regarding Moneris, not much in terms of a reply except for that they will bring it up with their CFO. CCBill has already tried setting up in Canada and even said they had a Canadian bank ready to work with them but claimed to me anyway that it was not worth it because of a lack of interests from Canadian companies saying many of them had already inc.ed their companies in the US or in Europe.

hershie · 05-13-2004, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by CrazyAL
I have contacted CCBill regarding Moneris, not much in terms of a reply except for that they will bring it up with their CFO. CCBill has already tried setting up in Canada and even said they had a Canadian bank ready to work with them but claimed to me anyway that it was not worth it because of a lack of interests from Canadian companies saying many of them had already inc.ed their companies in the US or in Europe.

I hope CCBill actually did a more exhaustive study of real interest from CDN's beyond the post they made on 2 message boards asking if there was any interest. I didn't reply in the thread and am sure 99% of interested parties didn't as well.

psyko514 · 05-13-2004, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by hershie
I hope CCBill actually did a more exhaustive study of real interest from CDN's beyond the post they made on 2 message boards asking if there was any interest. I didn't reply in the thread and am sure 99% of interested parties didn't as well.

not only that, but there were looking for people who'd be processing 10s of thousands of dollars of transactions monthly.

CrazyAL · 05-17-2004, 11:30 PM

So any news? anyone setup yet?

05-10-2004, 06:38 PM	#54
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05-10-2004, 06:39 PM	#55
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	Would surely be awesome if they can process cards beyond North America... I have all the trouble in the world finding a "resident agent" in the states.. willing to give out his personal info to ccbill.... Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 05-10-2004 at 06:40 PM..

05-10-2004, 07:02 PM	#59
s0laris2 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 317	hmm that woulf be cool to have moneris processing adult.. Only prob guys is you will have to pay 7% gst from all the sales.. I used to process adult with Moneris years ago before they stopped it. I have letters from Revenu canada stating too that all internet sales with no signature, etc will be subject to 7% gst. I dont know if that will change now.. but it will be a nightmare to manage! __________________

05-10-2004, 07:57 PM	#66
monica Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 220	wow... I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for a Candian processor that doesn't do all of their processing overseas... definitely worth looking into. __________________ monica AT monicaweb DOT net

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05-10-2004, 06:05 PM	#51
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	lest not jump the gun Ray, we still need to find out if they will process cards out of North America or else we are all just spinning our wheels

05-10-2004, 07:14 PM	#62
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Moneris is a good company.... they do all the major debit and cc transactions up here

05-11-2004, 08:59 AM	#71
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	So anyome confirm that Credit card info about only being able to process Nort American Credit cards? What about cb ratios? biiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzumP

05-11-2004, 10:17 AM	#73
Indeed Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,892	hmm interesting

05-11-2004, 11:00 AM	#74
L0stMind Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancity Posts: 1,681	I use moneris for nonadult. Very little problems with chargebacks... We have only had 2 in the past 3 years... Will be keeping an eye on this to see where it goes... __________________ http://cashcore.com - Make Money. http://ezprovider.net - Hosting.

05-11-2004, 10:02 PM	#78
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	ok - Here is the scoop I spoke too soon. We did some transaction analysis today of some of our Moneris merchants and it seems as though for a period of time there were a huge foreign card decline rate but that has sionce subsided and all is well. We have a meeting with Moneris tomorrow about setting up new 5967 accounts so please stay tuned and I will post the results of that meeting here tomorrow night. Thanks, Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

05-12-2004, 04:08 AM	#80
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05-12-2004, 06:05 AM	#82
Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	3.9% only...fuck...good offer.

05-12-2004, 06:31 AM	#83
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05-12-2004, 07:33 AM	#85
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McKracken Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Drunkville Posts: 703	worth a bump!

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05-13-2004, 07:51 AM	#93
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	Netbilling has never helped me. They always say we accept adult this and adult that but when it came down to selling real product and not hot air Netbilling has always failed me. I've seen mitch, on numerous accounts, say that they will gladly accept tangiable products and yet he was never able to do so for me and all i got was call this person and call that person. Why go through a 3rd party? Just go directly to Moneris.

05-17-2004, 11:30 PM	#100
CrazyAL Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 205	So any news? anyone setup yet?