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StRoGE 05-12-2004 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by netbilling
ok - Here is the scoop

I spoke too soon. We did some transaction analysis today of some of our Moneris merchants and it seems as though for a period of time there were a huge foreign card decline rate but that has sionce subsided and all is well. We have a meeting with Moneris tomorrow about setting up new 5967 accounts so please stay tuned and I will post the results of that meeting here tomorrow night.

Thanks, Mitch

Excellent news! Two :thumbsup :thumbsup for Moneris and Netbilling!

Alex Xe 05-12-2004 06:05 AM

3.9% only...fuck...good offer.

Paul Waters 05-12-2004 06:31 AM

What is 5967 account?

:rasta

sperbonzo 05-12-2004 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by Paul Waters
What is 5967 account?

:rasta

5967 is the merchant catagory code (MCC) for an adult online account

Martin 05-12-2004 07:33 AM

This would be sweet. *Watching with interest*

McKracken 05-12-2004 09:11 AM

worth a bump!

CrazyAL 05-12-2004 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by McKracken
worth a bump!
:rasta

monica 05-12-2004 10:00 PM

I am definitely interested in hearing how this goes...

DatingGold 05-12-2004 10:28 PM

even if they didnt do europe etc. thats only what 10-15%, jsut us geo targetting and send that elsewhere..

but it sounds like they do.

But can you just incorporate there or do you have to physically live in Canada?

NETbilling 05-13-2004 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by DatingGold
even if they didnt do europe etc. thats only what 10-15%, jsut us geo targetting and send that elsewhere..

but it sounds like they do.

But can you just incorporate there or do you have to physically live in Canada?

Alan,

You just need to be incorporated or live in the US or Canada. Contact me Monday and I will have more info.

Mitch

Braincash Fred 05-13-2004 06:43 AM

Mitch .. do you have an icq number?

Head 05-13-2004 07:31 AM

hope it works!!

notjoe 05-13-2004 07:51 AM

Netbilling has never helped me. They always say we accept adult this and adult that but when it came down to selling real product and not hot air Netbilling has always failed me.

I've seen mitch, on numerous accounts, say that they will gladly accept tangiable products and yet he was never able to do so for me and all i got was call this person and call that person.

Why go through a 3rd party? Just go directly to Moneris.

DatingGold 05-13-2004 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by notjoe
Netbilling has never helped me. They always say we accept adult this and adult that but when it came down to selling real product and not hot air Netbilling has always failed me.

I've seen mitch, on numerous accounts, say that they will gladly accept tangiable products and yet he was never able to do so for me and all i got was call this person and call that person.

Why go through a 3rd party? Just go directly to Moneris.

yeah I think Mitch got wind of this after reading your thread.. thats why they need until Monday. :2 cents:

cause they never mentioned they had it before.

Mitch is a good guy though

psyko514 05-13-2004 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
5967 is the merchant catagory code (MCC) for an adult online account
not just online adult... but online adult does fall into that category. the category is called "Inbound Teleservices Merchant" and it includes anyone providing services/information (not tangible goods). adult websites are included, but so are regular websites offering subscriptions as well as things like sports tips lines and horoscope lines.

all in all, this is some pretty awesome news. for those thinking the merchant fees seem a little low, keep in mind that we're talking the fees for a merchant account, not for processing through a 3rd party IPSP.

CCBill Canada would be like a dream come true!

CoolE 05-13-2004 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514
CCBill Canada would be like a dream come true!
I'll say. Corvette, are you out there? Can you comment?

CrazyAL 05-13-2004 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
not just online adult... but online adult does fall into that category. the category is called "Inbound Teleservices Merchant" and it includes anyone providing services/information (not tangible goods). adult websites are included, but so are regular websites offering subscriptions as well as things like sports tips lines and horoscope lines.

all in all, this is some pretty awesome news. for those thinking the merchant fees seem a little low, keep in mind that we're talking the fees for a merchant account, not for processing through a 3rd party IPSP.

CCBill Canada would be like a dream come true!

I have contacted CCBill regarding Moneris, not much in terms of a reply except for that they will bring it up with their CFO. CCBill has already tried setting up in Canada and even said they had a Canadian bank ready to work with them but claimed to me anyway that it was not worth it because of a lack of interests from Canadian companies saying many of them had already inc.ed their companies in the US or in Europe.

hershie 05-13-2004 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by CrazyAL
I have contacted CCBill regarding Moneris, not much in terms of a reply except for that they will bring it up with their CFO. CCBill has already tried setting up in Canada and even said they had a Canadian bank ready to work with them but claimed to me anyway that it was not worth it because of a lack of interests from Canadian companies saying many of them had already inc.ed their companies in the US or in Europe.
I hope CCBill actually did a more exhaustive study of real interest from CDN's beyond the post they made on 2 message boards asking if there was any interest. I didn't reply in the thread and am sure 99% of interested parties didn't as well.

psyko514 05-13-2004 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by hershie
I hope CCBill actually did a more exhaustive study of real interest from CDN's beyond the post they made on 2 message boards asking if there was any interest. I didn't reply in the thread and am sure 99% of interested parties didn't as well.
not only that, but there were looking for people who'd be processing 10s of thousands of dollars of transactions monthly.

CrazyAL 05-17-2004 11:30 PM

So any news? anyone setup yet?

woj 05-17-2004 11:36 PM

100 good news

StRoGE 05-18-2004 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by hershie
I hope CCBill actually did a more exhaustive study of real interest from CDN's beyond the post they made on 2 message boards asking if there was any interest. I didn't reply in the thread and am sure 99% of interested parties didn't as well.
No doubt. I know I'd definately be interested!

chodadog 05-18-2004 01:06 AM

I think this is awesome news if it all pans out. With the sweets being found innocent on those obscenity charges, canada will be a great place for porn.

Braincash Fred 05-21-2004 05:36 AM

Any update on this?

StRoGE 05-21-2004 05:43 AM

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Originally posted by Braincash Fred
Any update on this?
I sure as hell hope so. Im impatient.

qwasty 05-24-2004 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
Would surely be awesome if they can process cards beyond North America... I have all the trouble in the world finding a "resident agent" in the states.. willing to give out his personal info to ccbill....
If you're still looking for "resident agents" in the USA. I've recently setup one Canadian AWM with a USA company, and a Visa-capable CCBill account. So far, the arrangement has gone well, and I'm looking to do the same for other Canadian AWM's. The owner of that company is the one that referred me to this thread.

Here's how the pricing will probably go, depending on the particulars of your business:

$200 setup for an American business + $60 per month maintenance

$200 setup for a High Risk CCBill account + a monthly maintenance fee that depends on the details of your business and the risk and time commitments shouldered by my company.

CCBill's fees are additional, off the top of my head, they are:

$750 for high risk Visa processing fees
$30 per month account maintenance fee
14.5% commission, which decreases with higher volume processing.

It's a bit novel how the arrangement works, and it will take some explaining. Leave me your email if you want to get in touch. I can do pretty much anything you can imagine, my services go way beyond CCBill accounts.

TweetyBird 05-24-2004 01:14 PM

excellent Canadian news :winkwink:

Jman 05-24-2004 01:18 PM

I am talking with my friend Patrick in Quebec that as direct contacts at Moneris. He been using them for a while.

Feels good to be Canadian Eh :winkwink:

chAos 05-24-2004 02:28 PM

well guess i should get to know a canadian .. LOL

merlin77 05-24-2004 02:36 PM

That's awesome,I 'm going to search into it right now. Thanks!

corvette 05-24-2004 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by qwasty
If you're still looking for "resident agents" in the USA. I've recently setup one Canadian AWM with a USA company, and a Visa-capable CCBill account. So far, the arrangement has gone well, and I'm looking to do the same for other Canadian AWM's. The owner of that company is the one that referred me to this thread.

Here's how the pricing will probably go, depending on the particulars of your business:

$200 setup for an American business + $60 per month maintenance

$200 setup for a High Risk CCBill account + a monthly maintenance fee that depends on the details of your business and the risk and time commitments shouldered by my company.

CCBill's fees are additional, off the top of my head, they are:

$750 for high risk Visa processing fees
$30 per month account maintenance fee
14.5% commission, which decreases with higher volume processing.

It's a bit novel how the arrangement works, and it will take some explaining. Leave me your email if you want to get in touch. I can do pretty much anything you can imagine, my services go way beyond CCBill accounts.

I want to make it clear that Qwasty does not represent CCBill in any way, nor is CCBill associated with any entity that claims to provide a solution for Canadian businesses that wish to process Visa transactions.

Because this was brought up earlier in this thread, I will reiterate that CCBill does not currently have a solution for Canadian businesses, nor can we promise that there is going to be one in the near future. If you have any specific questions, please do not hesitate to reach our sales staff

AndrewKanuck 05-24-2004 02:48 PM

I've been using Moneris for years for all transactions online/storefront - I'll be moving adult transactions to it shortly

Doctor Dre 05-24-2004 02:56 PM

OMG OMG OMG ... I just hope it will stay like that :P

qwasty 05-24-2004 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by corvett
I want to make it clear that Qwasty does not represent CCBill in any way, nor is CCBill associated with any entity that claims to provide a solution for Canadian businesses that wish to process Visa transactions.

Because this was brought up earlier in this thread, I will reiterate that CCBill does not currently have a solution for Canadian businesses, nor can we promise that there is going to be one in the near future. If you have any specific questions, please do not hesitate to reach our sales staff

Well, I think it's already pretty clear that I'm not a representative of CCBill. In any case, I have discussed this type of an arrangement in detail with CCBill representatives, and they've said that there's no problem at all with it. Our accountants call it a "pass-through" arrangement, and it's 100% legal and it conforms to all of CCBill, Visa, and everyone else's rules and regulations.

basschick 05-24-2004 03:07 PM

so, mitch... what happened with that meeting?

Fabien 05-24-2004 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by pornstar2pac
40 cents or 65 cents. what's the difference?
25cents ? :eek7
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corvette 05-24-2004 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by qwasty
Well, I think it's already pretty clear that I'm not a representative of CCBill. In any case, I have discussed this type of an arrangement in detail with CCBill representatives, and they've said that there's no problem at all with it. Our accountants call it a "pass-through" arrangement, and it's 100% legal and it conforms to all of CCBill, Visa, and everyone else's rules and regulations.
Please contact me at your convenience; I want to make sure that there is not any misunderstanding or confusion. You can send me your telephone number or I can reply with my own.

[email protected]
45474840

xxxdesign-net 05-24-2004 04:22 PM

qwasty: my email is [email protected] .... please let me know more...

corvett: Can you re-post in this thread once you have talked with qwasty ... to tell us if everything is alright....

qwasty 05-24-2004 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
qwasty: my email is [email protected] .... please let me know more...

corvett: Can you re-post in this thread once you have talked with qwasty ... to tell us if everything is alright....

OK, I just got done with a telephone conference with several of the higher-ups in CCBill, apparently my posting has gotten quite a bit of attention over there. Let me make it crystal clear that I have no interest in upsetting CCBill, or any of their partners. I also want to thank them for taking the time to discuss their concerns with me.

CCBill made it very clear to me that they do not in any way support Canadian webmasters. That little phrase is a bit tougher to work around than I was lead to believe when initially setting up a CCBill account for one of my Canadian clients.

However, the situation is not hopeless, it just might be a bit more complicated. In the case of the client that I've already made arrangements with, he owns an American company, and the funds from the CCBill account are going to his American company, and not to Canada.

CCBill's main concern is that what I'm doing must follow the spirit of Visa's requirements - That every company processing Visa transactions must be based in the USA, and have principles in the USA (owners).

So, I need to put a bit more work into the structure of each arrangement that's made, if any. These issues may alter the expenses that I've outlined previously, and it may be a no-go in some situations if it turns out that CCBill's requirements cannot be met cost-effectively.

While I let the information sink in that I've just been given from CCBill, I'll be getting in touch with all of you who are interested, and we can discuss the issues involved - Needless to say, I'm going to be picky about who I deal with, so make a good impression. We'll see what happens next.

xxxdesign-net 05-24-2004 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by qwasty
OK, I just got done with a telephone conference with several of the higher-ups in CCBill, apparently my posting has gotten quite a bit of attention over there. Let me make it crystal clear that I have no interest in upsetting CCBill, or any of their partners. I also want to thank them for taking the time to discuss their concerns with me.

CCBill made it very clear to me that they do not in any way support Canadian webmasters. That little phrase is a bit tougher to work around than I was lead to believe when initially setting up a CCBill account for one of my Canadian clients.

However, the situation is not hopeless, it just might be a bit more complicated. In the case of the client that I've already made arrangements with, he owns an American company, and the funds from the CCBill account are going to his American company, and not to Canada.

CCBill's main concern is that what I'm doing must follow the spirit of Visa's requirements - That every company processing Visa transactions must be based in the USA, and have principles in the USA (owners).

So, I need to put a bit more work into the structure of each arrangement that's made, if any. These issues may alter the expenses that I've outlined previously, and it may be a no-go in some situations if it turns out that CCBill's requirements cannot be met cost-effectively.

While I let the information sink in that I've just been given from CCBill, I'll be getting in touch with all of you who are interested, and we can discuss the issues involved - Needless to say, I'm going to be picky about who I deal with, so make a good impression. We'll see what happens next.

ok... let me know when you have more... [email protected]


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