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Stealing Sales
I have recently been told my one of my sponsors, after I reported some missing sales. That they have found the reason my sales went missing, it is because one of their affiliates has worked out a way to steal sales from other affiliates.
Your experiences/thoughts on this? Is this possible ?
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Was thinking about that possibility as well a while ago when sales dropped alot. Could be done using hahahahahahas pretty easily i think, or spyware or viruses
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Its very odd. The sale shows up. Then the same time every night I check my stats again, and there is 1 sale less from when I checked earlier that day. Frustrating as hell. I've been getting really motivated lately as sales have been good, its a real kick in the head when a sale has just vanished.
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could it be traffic sources like ppc that he is stealing sales from?
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that sounds more like bad shaving then competition stealing your signups to me. but i donno depends on how much you trust your sponsor and their system stealing sales before they show up... sure spyware, .... possible no question but after they appeared in your stats?? shady.. very shady if you ask me ![]() |
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time to switch sponsors
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yep this is kick in the head..
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what sponsor is this? they didn't give you any details as to how it was happening? what are you supposed to do to stop it? how do they know it's theft from another affiliate but don't know how? that makes no sense. How did they come to this conclusion?
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I just got told that their 'programming guys' found out that another affiliate had worked out how to steal sales.
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Please let us know if you can what the company says - companies such as this do not get into business only to ruin themselves a few years later.
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Just goes to show that no matter how good a system is it can be broken sorry for your loss in sales sounds like you have a stand up program though.
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"Don't worry, it's just a glitch"
![]() How the fuck can someone "steal" a sale? they are shaving...and doing a bad job at it ![]() |
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I remember when that happend a while back at ARS... was only on one of their servers though, didnt affect a whole lot.. but it sure pissed alot of people off..
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Sounds like a lame attempt at an excuse... But you never know...
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I can almost guarantee you that the sponsor shaves. This may not be why you're losing the sale but more than likely what did happen was the shaving feature had an error in it and didn't shave the sale in the way it was intended to.
In theory with shaving when the sale is made it should not show up in your stats area but it will show up in the admin stats area for the program owner. What it sounds like is happening is either you were seeing the owners stats or there was just an all out glitch in timing on removing the sale from your stats area. It was a known bug in one of the affiliate management programs a few months ago but i'm not sure what precisely happened after that. I can almost assure you though it would be tough for another affiliate to steal the sale after it was already credited to your account. The only way would be for them to hack into the sponsor program and get into the owners area of the admin. If this is the case then I would be concerned about using that particular program anyway because of it's security vulnerability. |
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Certainly a fucked up situation. Keep your head about you and change sponsors if it isn't resolved quickly.
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It seems like a very sketchy thing. For something to appear and the disappear isn't normal. It's even less normal for a supposed reputable company to have a lack of security that'd let another affiliate steal sales. One last observation would also lead to the conclusion that they'd be able to lock out the affiliate stealing the sales. It's not possible for a program to see sales being switched around and not do anything about it.
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