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Old 04-24-2004, 02:30 PM   #1
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Slain Porn Star Linked to 'Snuff' Film

Not sure if this has been posted yet but here's the story...

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/ap/2004...283758000.html
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Old 04-24-2004, 02:31 PM   #2
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aaaand it gets better...
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Old 04-24-2004, 02:37 PM   #3
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"We don't know who killed her," Alva said. "What we do know is that my client is in the unsavoury business of photographing women in very compromising positions. But that kind of business was entered into voluntarily by the victim."

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=968705899037

Not sure I'd want that guy as my lawyer?
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Old 04-24-2004, 02:50 PM   #4
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Well, he apparently had notes indicating he was shooting snuff video...
Then the model ended up 'accidentally' dying. This guy is a candidate for the capital punishment if their ever was one (and his 'assistant too' )
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Old 04-24-2004, 02:54 PM   #5
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wtf. this freak lives practically around the corner from me.
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Old 04-24-2004, 02:57 PM   #6
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its not SNuff.

FBI has NEVER found a video cosidered to be real SNuff, its make believe.

he may have murdered her but its not Snuff, this is just what the media loves to hear.

Show me where there has been a real snuff video ever found, this would nfuraite the FBI considering they have investigated Snuff for 20+ years now and never found anything

http://www.snopes2.com/horrors/madmen/snuff.htm

(Al Goldstein, publisher of Screw magazine, has a standing offer of $1 million for anyone who can come up with a commercially sold snuff film. That offer has been in place for years. No one has yet laid claim to it.)
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Old 04-24-2004, 03:02 PM   #7
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the faces of death movies could be considered snuff films... filming an execution and selling it isn't a whole lot different.
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Old 04-24-2004, 03:48 PM   #8
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Here is the thing....
Natel DID NOT do Boy/Girl, so if this prick is saying that she was filming a hardcore sex snuff film he is full of shit.

I knew her. She was solo and G/G only.
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Old 04-24-2004, 03:54 PM   #9
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"We don't know who killed her," Alva said. "What we do know is that my client is in the unsavoury business of photographing women in very compromising positions. But that kind of business was entered into voluntarily by the victim."

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=968705899037

Not sure I'd want that guy as my lawyer?
johny cochran he's not
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Old 04-24-2004, 03:57 PM   #10
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How is one charged with both first and third degree murder?

Somehow, that doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 04-24-2004, 03:58 PM   #11
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FBI has NEVER found a video cosidered to be real SNuff, its make believe.
I guess you don't remember that german canibal that killed the guy on video,,,then ate him.
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Old 04-24-2004, 05:00 PM   #12
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I guess you don't remember that german canibal that killed the guy on video,,,then ate him.
There are lots of video footage that people took of themselves while killing/murdering people. Charles Ing (I believe that was his last name) and another guy, who killed himself before his arrest , used to kidnap people and video tape the murders.

A more recent one that I saw on discovery channel had to do with an affluent South Florida businessman who told his girlfriend he was a member of a "killing club", and as part of her initiation into the club, the two kidnapped some drifter, tied him to a tree, and she shot him to death while her boyfriend video taped it. Police later found the tape after the girl confessed and testified against the boyfriend.

Anyway, I'm not sure such videos would actually be considered "snuff" films though. I'm pretty sure in order for it to be considered snuff, the murder would have to be sexually related. I haven't heard of that German cannibal. I know there was a nasty Russian cannibal they caught years ago.
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Old 04-24-2004, 05:14 PM   #13
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There are lots of video footage that people took of themselves while killing/murdering people. Charles Ing (I believe that was his last name) and another guy, who killed himself before his arrest , used to kidnap people and video tape the murders.

A more recent one that I saw on discovery channel had to do with an affluent South Florida businessman who told his girlfriend he was a member of a "killing club", and as part of her initiation into the club, the two kidnapped some drifter, tied him to a tree, and she shot him to death while her boyfriend video taped it. Police later found the tape after the girl confessed and testified against the boyfriend.

Anyway, I'm not sure such videos would actually be considered "snuff" films though. I'm pretty sure in order for it to be considered snuff, the murder would have to be sexually related. I haven't heard of that German cannibal. I know there was a nasty Russian cannibal they caught years ago.
correct.

do a google search, for "FBI and Snuff"

they spent millions investigating this and never found a real snuff film.

suicide or cannibal videos are not snuff.
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Old 04-24-2004, 05:27 PM   #14
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"...whose body was found in a trash-filled ravine in March"

aren't ravines supposed to contain water? what a dirty world we live in...
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Old 04-24-2004, 05:48 PM   #16
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Here is the thing....
Natel DID NOT do Boy/Girl, so if this prick is saying that she was filming a hardcore sex snuff film he is full of shit.

I knew her. She was solo and G/G only.
then if you have experience with her why don't you contact the prosecutor, maybe your experience with her could help their case.
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Old 04-24-2004, 06:10 PM   #17
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Old 04-24-2004, 06:13 PM   #18
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He is guilty as hell in the Philly photography circuit he is known for hiring models: adult and mainstream and propositioning them for sex, not to mention he is a bondage guru, he shoots it b/c he likes it. Same backdrop, same ballgsag, hmmmmm. He is a fucking schmuck, he has a reputation for "bad shoots."
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