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web4x · 04-28-2004, 03:50 PM

WTF, what are these fuckers doing, forbid porn?

GonePhishing · 04-28-2004, 03:58 PM

Is there a link to a story?

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 03:58 PM

bullshit!
as a german webmaster you are not allowed to show hardcore porn to surfers without verifying their age first. (NO, credit card is not enough proof... lol)

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 04:00 PM

the right for 'free access' to entertainment is part of germanys constitution.
and that's exactly what porn is - entertainment.

DR_PHIL · 04-28-2004, 04:02 PM

good luck enforcing that

johndoebob · 04-28-2004, 04:02 PM

Just hardcore without age verification is illegal.The age verification laws are just getting more strict but why do people open threads like that when they obviously have no clue

web4x · 04-28-2004, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Preacher
bullshit!
as a german webmaster you are not allowed to show hardcore porn to surfers without verifying their age first. (NO, credit card is not enough proof... lol)

A credit card is not enough proof? So you mean people willing to sign up have to visit you at home and show you that they are adults?

JOKER · 04-28-2004, 04:04 PM

*cough* bullshit *cough*

Maybe study the laws before posting stuff,mmkay?

JOKER

polish_aristocrat · 04-28-2004, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Preacher
bullshit!
as a german webmaster you are not allowed to show hardcore porn to surfers without verifying their age first. (NO, credit card is not enough proof... lol)

so a german webmaster cannot submit galleries or own a tgp

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Just hardcore without age verification is illegal.The age verification laws are just getting more strict but why do people open threads like that when they obviously have no clue

they want you to use "face 2 face" verification now.
which means a customer has to go to a post office and fill out a form and show his passport and shit.

no one is using it though, german webmasters prefer to go offshore now if they can afford it.

what a joke ;-)

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by web4x
A credit card is not enough proof? So you mean people willing to sign up have to visit you at home and show you that they are adults?

see post above

sweandy · 04-28-2004, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by web4x
A credit card is not enough proof? So you mean people willing to sign up have to visit you at home and show you that they are adults?

I got my first VISA when i was 16. It's not 100% that the holder is over 18/21 when he pays with it.

stev0 · 04-28-2004, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
so a german webmaster cannot submit galleries or own a tgp

Sucks to live in Germany...

web4x · 04-28-2004, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Preacher
they want you to use "face 2 face" verification now.
which means a customer has to go to a post office and fill out a form and show his passport and shit.

no one is using it though, german webmasters prefer to go offshore now if they can afford it.

what a joke ;-)

Yeah, Netherlands

johndoebob · 04-28-2004, 04:08 PM

sure you can there are lots of german tgps they verify our age by your id code that takes you a few seconds and everybody is happy

web4x · 04-28-2004, 04:09 PM

If you publish porn in Germany prepare to talk to BUBBA

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by web4x
Yeah, Netherlands

holland is a nice country ;-)
there are better places to go offshore though , with flatrate taxes and stuff like this. germany doesn't want adult webmaster's money, well someone else gets it. lol

4Pics · 04-28-2004, 04:10 PM

just means the germans go elsewhere to view free porn

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
sure you can there are lots of german tgps they verify our age by your id code that takes you a few seconds and everybody is happy

not anymore... laws are getting stricter.
they claim it is not enough to check the passport number since they can be easily generated. The algorithm is available and explained on tons of webpages.

what they fail to realize is that it's called INTERnet not GERMANYnet
lol

a1ka1ine · 04-28-2004, 04:15 PM

more details?

johndoebob · 04-28-2004, 04:17 PM

Yeah there are some really fucked up companies who seem to see the really big money in dongle age verifications systems suing lots of companies and promoting their system so the laws change faster

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
so the laws change faster

and not for the better, unfortunately

johndoebob · 04-28-2004, 04:22 PM

A DDOS on coolspot.de is always welcome

web4x · 04-28-2004, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by Preacher
and not for the better, unfortunately

Even if you go offshore with your company and still live in Germany you are fucked. Adult Webmasters have to leave Germany to stay in this business.

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
A DDOS on coolspot.de is always welcome

LOL

web4x · 04-28-2004, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
A DDOS on coolspot.de is always welcome

What's a DDOS?

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by web4x
What's a DDOS?

distributed denial of service attack

johndoebob · 04-28-2004, 04:28 PM

At the moment business in Germany is still good,lots of good affil programs and good earnings through dialers but not very long anymore I guess

Not being allowed to show hardcore at a mainpage brings even more business I think.But all these dongle and AVS crap which is now to come is just sick...

At the moment you don't need any verification beside ID or credit card for your member area,dialers normally don't include ID checks.

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
At the moment you don't need any verification beside ID or credit card for your member area,dialers normally don't include ID checks.

that's not true.

johndoebob · 04-28-2004, 04:31 PM

Did I miss any changes of the laws?

warlock5 · 04-28-2004, 04:55 PM

Thats wacked. My friend from Germany says they show nudity on tv all the time. Here in the U.S. some on-her-way-out singer shows a covered nipple during the super bowl for a quarter of a second and now the FCC wants to fine companies a billion dollars!

I thought the U.S. had wacked out ultra conservative laws. Maybe its all these Republican porno millionaires that have saved us so far

sexavist · 04-28-2004, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by web4x
Even if you go offshore with your company and still live in Germany you are fucked. Adult Webmasters have to leave Germany to stay in this business.

Great, we're moving to Germany next week, we bought 2 houses overthere. Keeping the biz in The Netherlands though... But I also consider to keep renting a room in NL so that the German house would be my second home. If they're gonna start arresting Dutch webmasters on holiday in Germany, well, so be it...

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by web4x
Even if you go offshore with your company and still live in Germany you are fucked. Adult Webmasters have to leave Germany to stay in this business.

there are a lot of ways to handle this, if you have the funds.

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by sexavist
If they're gonna start arresting Dutch webmasters on holiday in Germany, well, so be it...

I doub't this will happen

reynold · 04-28-2004, 05:23 PM

I wonder how will they be able to monitor everyone over there?

sexavist · 04-28-2004, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Preacher
I doub't this will happen

Me too, ofcourse...
And if they try, I'll run to The Netherlands, it's 500 meters..

But it might be a good idea to stop crossing the border while smoking a joint... I heard it's illegal to smoke joints while driving in Germany. Is this true?

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by sexavist
Me too, ofcourse...
And if they try, I'll run to The Netherlands, it's 500 meters..

But it might be a good idea to stop crossing the border while smoking a joint... I heard it's illegal to smoke joints while driving in Germany. Is this true?

of course it is illegal... it's illegal to drink while driving as well, not to mention it is illegal to ride a bycicle while beeing drunk too.

isn't it in holland? ;=)

johndoebob · 04-28-2004, 05:41 PM

Well the german government doesn't like ppl driving while they are on drugs for obvious reasons,also your insurance wouldn't pay on a crash.In most "states" in germany you are permited to own a few grams weed for personal use.If you don't have hardcore without avs websites targeting only german customers you don't have to care about the german laws anyway

Otherwise you are targeting swiss or austrian visitors,just make sure your company is located outside germany and everything is fine

Preacher · 04-28-2004, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Well the german government doesn't like ppl driving while they are on drugs for obvious reasons,also your insurance wouldn't pay on a crash.

sexavist · 04-28-2004, 06:01 PM

I was just kidding, ofcourse that's illegal in The Netherlands also... But it wouldn't be a biggie though... Now you should not crash, I agree...
And I will never take more then a few grams into Germany, like I said, it's 500m across the border and there is no checkpoint, so...

And in case you wonder why we go to Germany in the first place: real estate prices...

bllott · 04-28-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by web4x
WTF, what are these fuckers doing, forbid porn?

like that's going to work

web4x · 04-29-2004, 02:23 PM

Fuck Germany

MagicJohn · 04-29-2004, 03:33 PM

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A credit card is not enough proof? So you mean people willing to sign up have to visit you at home and show you that they are adults

In Germany you are able to get a credit card even under the age of 16!

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Preacher Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,970	the right for 'free access' to entertainment is part of germanys constitution. and that's exactly what porn is - entertainment.

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johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	At the moment business in Germany is still good,lots of good affil programs and good earnings through dialers but not very long anymore I guess Not being allowed to show hardcore at a mainpage brings even more business I think.But all these dongle and AVS crap which is now to come is just sick... At the moment you don't need any verification beside ID or credit card for your member area,dialers normally don't include ID checks. __________________

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johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	Well the german government doesn't like ppl driving while they are on drugs for obvious reasons,also your insurance wouldn't pay on a crash.In most "states" in germany you are permited to own a few grams weed for personal use.If you don't have hardcore without avs websites targeting only german customers you don't have to care about the german laws anyway Otherwise you are targeting swiss or austrian visitors,just make sure your company is located outside germany and everything is fine __________________

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sexavist Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 98	I was just kidding, ofcourse that's illegal in The Netherlands also... But it wouldn't be a biggie though... Now you should not crash, I agree... And I will never take more then a few grams into Germany, like I said, it's 500m across the border and there is no checkpoint, so... And in case you wonder why we go to Germany in the first place: real estate prices...

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