Russian mafia blackmailing websites with DDoS threats? - GoFuckYourself.com

Mr.Fiction · 04-22-2004, 01:23 PM

Extortion scams threatening distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks against sites that don't pay a ransom fee are becoming far more common than was feared when it was believed that larger bookmakers were the major target.

Blamed largely on the Russian mafia by security experts, the blackmail scams threaten to cripple businesses with overwhelming amounts of site traffic unless the company pays up. According to Cable & Wireless, the number and nature of companies targeted is changing rapidly.

Rob Thomas, head of product marketing and C&W, said: "We've seen a significant increase in DDoS attacks with the increase in broadband. The amount of traffic which can now be created through these always-on connections has increased and these attacks are becoming far more sophisticated."

http://www.silicon.com/software/secu...9120157,00.htm

stev0 · 04-22-2004, 01:24 PM

that sucks... the russian mafia going geekstyle is kind of funny though.

init · 04-22-2004, 01:43 PM

i remember reading about this quite some time ago, its unbelievable the things people do these days for $

Jensen · 04-22-2004, 01:46 PM

lots of bookies still struggling.. problem is, some paid

DR_PHIL · 04-22-2004, 01:50 PM

haaaaa

polish_aristocrat · 04-22-2004, 01:51 PM

restaurants pay to the mafia, now the websites will too

erehwon · 04-22-2004, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Extortion scams threatening distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks against sites that don't pay a ransom fee are becoming far more common than was feared when it was believed that larger bookmakers were the major target.

http://www.silicon.com/software/secu...9120157,00.htm

Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) Attacks/tools

Hank_Heartland · 04-22-2004, 01:56 PM

Why screw up the net to make money when there are so many other ways to make money using the net??? It makes no sense

cluck · 04-22-2004, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Why screw up the net to make money when there are so many other ways to make money using the net??? It makes no sense

It's the easiest way to make money. Get some goons, or a major geek in this case with some firepower and you can own the whole town.

erehwon · 04-22-2004, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Why screw up the net to make money when there are so many other ways to make money using the net??? It makes no sense

Its cheaper to launch DDoS attacks than sending Vito and Little Nick to bust some kneecaps. I seen some of the extortion letters to London Bookies before the Super Bowl demanding $10K or they won't be able to take any bets.

Several of these shops don't know how to fend off these attacks, and would much rather pay out the money, many are embarrassed to call the police saying they are getting extortion letters, some consider it just part of doing business online.

I have to take a meeting, but I will dig around my laptop for one of those letters later.

polish_aristocrat · 04-23-2004, 12:28 AM

Maybe they read about Deepsy.

gwilkins · 04-23-2004, 12:47 AM

I'm suprised it took so long for hackers to look to this as a source of money. 10k from a threat of a ddos attack is great and businesses that stand to lose 10x that or more would be happy to pay.

hydro · 04-23-2004, 12:49 AM

i remember there was some guy here threatening to packet gfy if lensman didnt pay up

heres the link http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...ghlight=botnet

Down_Under · 04-23-2004, 02:16 AM

when i think of fraud , cheating, hacking and any one of a number of scummy activities i always think of russia

Pornopat · 04-23-2004, 02:18 AM

Hmm maybe they are behind the attack on processors like cc bill???

just a punk · 04-23-2004, 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by Down_Under
when i think of fraud , cheating, hacking and any one of a number of scummy activities i always think of russia

Yes, yes, yes! Russian Mafia is here. Your personal info is already recorded. The hunt on you just began...

Are you afraid? YOU MUST BE AFRAID!!!

just a punk · 04-23-2004, 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by Pornopat
Hmm maybe they are behind the attack on processors like cc bill???

Course they are! No doubts here! They are also involved in 9/11, Hiroshima nuking in 1945 and... OMG... OMG... they tried to kill Mr. Bush with an overdried cracker...

Ironhorse · 04-23-2004, 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Why screw up the net to make money when there are so many other ways to make money using the net??? It makes no sense

It's not always just money, these guys like to flex muscle and feel like the big man

Ironhorse · 04-23-2004, 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by cyberxxx
Yes, yes, yes! Russian Mafia is here. Your personal info is already recorded. The hunt on you just began... Are you afraid? YOU MUST BE AFRAID!!!

Oh my I'm shitting bricks, I think I will just unplug my puter and sit in a corner and whimper..

Mr.Fiction · 04-23-2004, 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by cyberxxx
Yes, yes, yes! Russian Mafia is here. Your personal info is already recorded. The hunt on you just began... Are you afraid? YOU MUST BE AFRAID!!!

Are you in Russia?

Shoehorn! · 04-23-2004, 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by init
i remember reading about this quite some time ago, its unbelievable the things people do these days for $

Yeah, I can't believe they're doing this, not because it's a far fetched idea or anything, just because it seems silly.

just a punk · 04-23-2004, 02:49 AM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Are you in Russia?

Did you mean: "Are you Russian"? I don't feel like a country, really

just a punk · 04-23-2004, 03:06 AM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Are you in Russia?

Actually right now I could be anywhere. So I suggest you to ask for nationality next time

P.S. Very big part of this business is controlled by co-called "Russians" (I mean the people of various nationalities who were born in exUSSR). Actually this part of business is even bigger than you may think. I mean lots of Russian partnership programs, various webmaster services etc. Do you know where Serge Oprano from? That's just FYI

RicardoB · 04-23-2004, 03:09 AM

It was to be expected.

Where there is money there is crime and ultimately a mafia to follow through.

just a punk · 04-23-2004, 03:13 AM

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Originally posted by RicardoB
It was to be expected.

Where there is money there is crime and ultimately a mafia to follow through.

Just don't tell me the money is in Internet

The REAL money are in OIL and GAS industry, this is the only real thing the Russian mafia is interested in (some persons are making billions of $$$ every year).

just a punk · 04-23-2004, 03:18 AM

Did you hear about Abramowitz, Hodorkovsky etc? These guys are typical Russians (with Jewish names

) who control everything. They will never down to Internet, online porn and other shit...

notjoe · 04-23-2004, 05:04 AM

They are infact doing this and you'll never guess who is behind it...

Spews.org, fuck you, you russian cocksucking motherfuckers!

Pornopat · 04-23-2004, 05:22 AM

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Originally posted by cyberxxx
Course they are! No doubts here! They are also involved in 9/11, Hiroshima nuking in 1945 and... OMG... OMG... they tried to kill Mr. Bush with an overdried cracker...

Dude spare me your sarcastic comments. THere is crime everywhere. I never suggested that Russians do all the crimes. cc bill has been dossed for the last few days and they are threathening with dos...
Is it really silly to think they MIGHT be behind it?

just a punk · 04-23-2004, 06:19 AM

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Originally posted by Pornopat
Dude spare me your sarcastic comments. THere is crime everywhere. I never suggested that Russians do all the crimes. cc bill has been dossed for the last few days and they are threathening with dos...
Is it really silly to think they MIGHT be behind it?

Course it very silly to think so. The REAL Russian mafia just doesn't care about the things like DDOS or other shit. They just care about GAS, OIL, COAL, DIAMOND and METAL PRODUCTION industries. They are making many hundreds of billions $$$ on this. So what's you are talking about??? CCBill? What CCBill is for Russian mafia? Be sure they even don't know such a word... Please don't be so naive... The people who DDOS-ed CCBill and other I-net services are just a bunch of 14yo hackers-upstarts... They have nothing common with a REAL Russian mafia... Open your eyes! Read some news at least...

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