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Old 04-20-2004, 09:08 PM   #101
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:12 PM   #102
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Not lets forget the "new first base", girls 12 and up giving boys blowjobs, at school, on the bus and at their house. Because they seem to think that there is nothing wrong with it. It's not sex and it makes the guys like them more. Forget kissing or touching the tits, nowadays they go straight to the cock
I think I was born a few years too early.
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:17 PM   #103
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I don't think that any webmaster here, particularly on this thread, would want their daughter to do the things, and live the lifestyle that "content" girls do.
I have a two year old daughter.

I was watching a video the other day of a very pretty girl, maybe 18-19, shoving her bikini up her pussy.

And I thought I hope I haven't been spending the last two years changing diapers and cleaning poop off my daughter's wee-wee only to have her grow up and stuff a bikini up it.
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:17 PM   #104
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I have 2 nieces one is 17, the other is 12.

My oldest niece was allowed to get her belly button pierced when she turned 16.

Anyway my youngest niece she and her friend both turned 12 about a month apart from each other.

Her friend started off the school year with her mother allowing her to get her nose pierced..she was 11.

Then for her 12th birthday she was allowed to get her belly button pierced...and now this past weekend her mother took her to get her tongue pierced.

This IMO is unbelievable. The girl who is now only 12 is as tall as me, fully developed *she could easily be mistaken for 15-16 and she has informed my niece that she has the hots for some 18 year old guys in her neighborhood.

The girl's mother complains that older guys are always checking her out and talking her up but I don't see how she's helping the situation by fully outfitting her in the hoochie uniform of the day.

don't get me wrong I am not a prude...piercings etc are fine but IMO are one of those things that are age appropriate.

15-16 witha few piercing = expressing oneself

12 seems like you're just pimping out your kid.
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:18 PM   #105
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Normally I would agree, but not in this case. My parents wouldn't let me watch R-rated movies that had "sexual situations" until I was 13. After I turned 13, they assumed (as you do) that my personality was already formed and let me choose for myself what to watch and how to dress. I chose to watch sexually suggestive movies and dress slutty -- they didn't stop me. My parents believed the same as you, let me be myself with a little "guidance" in the right direction. Throughout school I was always in GATE classes and my GPA averaged 3.8.

As you can probably imagine, my parents are not proud of me because I work as a stripper. I don't "blame" my parents for my current occupation; I like what I do and I'm good at it. Considering the life I've chosen, I'm very successful. I own my own house, my 2001 luxury car is paid in full, and I don't rely on anyone else to support me.

Parenting doesn't just happen; whether you raise your kids or not they still grow up. While our basic personalities may be developed by age 5, other big life decisions and occupation choices continue to be influenced much much later.
Trixi, has it ever occured that your personality was in fact already formed at 13?

People don't just change all of a sudden when they hit 13, it sounds to me like there was a lot more going on than your parents just letting you decide things for yourself when you turned 13.

And why do you say your parents aren't proud of you? Did they tell you that?
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:23 PM   #106
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how do you do this? do you sit down and go through the possible consequences of certain decisions with them?
Absolutely.. it's the only way to go in my opinion.. it's hard.. it takes a lot and I mean a lot of time.. something I'm afraid a lot of parents aren't willing to spend.. and I think that may be one of the biggest problems.. so many take the easy way out, and one of the easiest ways out is to run your childs life for them instead of taking the enormous amount of time it takes to teach them how to run it themselves

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Old 04-20-2004, 09:26 PM   #107
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Yeah dude, there's no way I would allow it even though I'm currently separated I've already talked to my daughter numerous times on all these items and have raised a stink with my wife many times about loose clothing etc.

Parents don't consider how their inaction or ignorance, negatively affects their children. My opinion is if you're 18 you can go ahead and be a porn star if you want, but 12-13, sorry, parents can do a much better job to keep their kids out of harm's way
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:29 PM   #108
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It's pretty apparent that's what this mom is doing...she feels like she can't provide in other ways so what does she do...let's her do pretty much as she pleases.

I speak from experience...I grew up with a mother exactly like that.

12 year old girls don't need tongue..nose or belly piercings. If she wants all that then make her earn it through responsible action. Like get a drivers license and a job and then pay for it.
I don't have kids, but I do have a teen brother and sister. When I go to their school, it amazes me to see how those kids dress. They walk around half naked. When I go by children's clothes in stores it's amazing to see that the clothes they want little kids to wear is what women wear!

I actually had the chance to speak to one girl's mother, she asked me why my sister didn't wear skimpy clothes, I simply said my mother doesn't allow her and thank God she doesn't have that desire. The mother told me that she has no choice, her daughter tells her all girls dressed like that. So she is forced to buy skimpy clothes for her 14 yr old daughter...which is BULL, b/c she should be able to say NO!

I just know that we were brought up very different, and my siblings have more respect for themselves....maybe it's not about respect...but my parents were able to teach us certain things, and I supposed we chose to be kids, then teens, (and now adults in my case )without having to get pierce, tatoo, or walk have naked (as kids & teens) if we wanted any of that I think we would have waited until we were old enough to pay for it ourselves. well my parents would have NOt paid for any of that! I think my parents control my siblings, and controled me but it's a good control.

I think my parents also wanted us to enjoy being kids, then teens.
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:31 PM   #109
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how do you do this? do you sit down and go through the possible consequences of certain decisions with them?
My favorite story, and I've had my sister join in on this, is how my sister was raped by 3 guys at the age of 14, partly because she was dressing to look 18. It sucks that girls can't dress as they want because of some monsters out there, but that's the world we live in, and while you can't change the attitude of most guys out there short of some unorthodox action ..



.. you certainly can change the way your daughter presents herself to the world, in order to avoid unpleasant consequences.
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:35 PM   #110
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Trixi, has it ever occured that your personality was in fact already formed at 13?

People don't just change all of a sudden when they hit 13, it sounds to me like there was a lot more going on than your parents just letting you decide things for yourself when you turned 13.
My personality WAS already formed. I am very dominant, independent, and self-sufficient. But my lifetime choices hadn't been made yet. When I was 12 I wanted to be a teacher. My dad had to buy a pregnancy test when I was 15 (luckily I wasn't pregnant). What happened in those few years? My parents thought that they could guide me in the right direction while giving me freedom. This was a mistake. They thought everything was fine because I was such a good student and courteous.

As an adult, I'm a sex addict. My chosen occupation is as a stripper. It could be worse, at least I didn't choose to be a hooker or a porn star, but that's more because of safety issues than underlying morales. As I said, I don't blame them for this. At the same time, I suspect if they had continued treating me like a child instead of an adult, maybe I wouldn't have chosen this. It only took 2 years of them allowing me to be my own person for me to change this much. They shouldn't have allowed me as much freedom as they did at such a young age.



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And why do you say your parents aren't proud of you? Did they tell you that?
Yes. They are proud that I'm successful and can support myself, but they are NOT proud of how I do it. They have said so.
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:40 PM   #111
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Yes. They are proud that I'm successful and can support myself, but they are NOT proud of how I do it. They have said so.
I could never bring myself to say something like that to one of my children, what you said there made me very sad
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Absolutely.. it's the only way to go in my opinion.. it's hard.. it takes a lot and I mean a lot of time.. something I'm afraid a lot of parents aren't willing to spend.. and I think that may be one of the biggest problems.. so many take the easy way out
It's common sense really and i plan to do it with my children ( i have 1 daughter and another on the way)

It's still not easy when they have all this garbage being shoved in their face every day though. Raising your kids well is definatley worth any sacrifices you need to make.
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My personality WAS already formed.
Many psychologist believe that personalities are developed by the age of 7.
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Many psychologist believe that personalities are developed by the age of 7.
That's probably close to accurate but does their personality at age 7 determine what choices they make when they're 12?

also..not everyone likes situations they find themselves in.. weather or not they put themselves there in the first place.

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I could never bring myself to say something like that to one of my children, what you said there made me very sad
My parents raised me to believe that honesty is always more important than anything else. I respect my parents BECAUSE they are honest with me.
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:55 PM   #116
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I have 2 nieces one is 17, the other is 12.

My oldest niece was allowed to get her belly button pierced when she turned 16.

Anyway my youngest niece she and her friend both turned 12 about a month apart from each other.

Her friend started off the school year with her mother allowing her to get her nose pierced..she was 11.

Then for her 12th birthday she was allowed to get her belly button pierced...and now this past weekend her mother took her to get her tongue pierced.

This IMO is unbelievable. The girl who is now only 12 is as tall as me, fully developed *she could easily be mistaken for 15-16 and she has informed my niece that she has the hots for some 18 year old guys in her neighborhood.

The girl's mother complains that older guys are always checking her out and talking her up but I don't see how she's helping the situation by fully outfitting her in the hoochie uniform of the day.

don't get me wrong I am not a prude...piercings etc are fine but IMO are one of those things that are age appropriate.

15-16 witha few piercing = expressing oneself

12 seems like you're just pimping out your kid.
This is the result of liberals letting mtv air whatever they want...
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Old 04-20-2004, 10:22 PM   #117
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My parents raised me to believe that honesty is always more important than anything else. I respect my parents BECAUSE they are honest with me.
that's a biggie with me too.. honesty and my own parents were kind of shocked when I told them what I do, but I was proud of myself.. and they're proud of me.. I don't do anything I think is wrong, if I thought it was wrong.. then I wouldn't be doing it.. and btw.. I don't think what you're doing is wrong either, you're supporting yourself in a profession that's very hard and very competitive. It's work, it's legal, and it pays the bills.. nothing wrong with that at all.
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Old 04-20-2004, 10:25 PM   #118
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Young girls nowadays usually think its cool to be in. So it is left on the parents to guide them while they make decisions. Just let them know that they are the ones who will bear the consequences anyway.
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about a year ago i remember reading on a forum that this 22 year old met a girl in a club(over 21 only) met this girl there. They got talking and stuff and they went to go fuck. Well it turned out this girl was actually 16 and the parents found out so they filed charges. But he posted a pic of her and she looked 24-25. Just watch out guys
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where is it legal to pierce those parts on girls?

i dont think shops here in LA would pierce 12 year olds.

ive never seen that here.
Probably requires a signed release from the parents.
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:03 AM   #121
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Probably requires a signed release from the parents.
That being the point...what kind of messed up parent allows their 12 year old daughter to permanently scar her body for a fashion trend?
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i agree parents they fucking crazy
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You've got to be a parent to understand that your kids seldom follow everything you say. They are the bunch that wants to experiment or just wants to be in to be cool. Just be there to guide them so they won't stray too far.
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