Hustler Director Kris Kramski says HIV is a harmless virus and does NOT causes AIDS

[Jace]

haha, this should get some debate going....

THIS IS NOT ME WRITING THIS, THIS IS FROM LUKEFORD DOT COM I AM JUST PASTING THIS

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FROM AN IDIOT COKE SNIFFER NAMED KRIS KRAMSKI

HIV is a harmless virus and does NOT causes AIDS.

Hustler Director Kris Kramski hahahahahas: The tests that talent in our industry take every 30 days does not detect the presence of HIV. It detects the presence of HIV "antibodies"... The person with a positive result has at one point been exposed to HIV, but fought back by creating "antibodies" against the virus. It means in fact that the person is healthy: Good news!

Mandatory HIV testing every 30 days for performers in the business is a waste of their time and money. Requesting that they use condoms when they shoot a scene may prevent a few STDs infections here and there, but is a useless measure as far as AIDs is concerned. The choice should be left to performers and performers alone, and productions companies should stay out of the whole thing. Productions companies requesting that talent show a current AIDs test on set, are adding to the already excessive amount of paperwork, and by their request, are indirectly bringing undue validity to the assumed need for recurring HIV testing. Directors and producers are required - under the law - to check and hahahahahahahaha that performers are sober, willing participants at the time of the shoot, and 18 years of age or older. Anything else is an arbitrary and unnecessary.

It has never ever been proven scientifically that HIV causes AIDs. This assertion is a lie destined to terrorize sexually active individuals. Most importantly, it guarantees huge profits to pharmaceutical companies, as well as endless monetary subventions and governmental funding to AIDs research organizations.

Can you remember the early days of AIDS? when we were told it was contagious? Well by now - (if it truly was contagious) we'd be faced with a sizeable epidemic. But the number of people infected has remained low, and mostly contained within specific groups.

As members of the adult industry, we are, in a way, at the forefront of sexual _expression - Other factors can weaken or destroy the immune system. The slow death seen among "AIDs victims is not caused by the HIV virus.

For those convinced that I'm wrong but willing to discuss the matter: Could you ever so kindly educate me and show me the actual sound scientific data that proves (or establishes with a preponderance of probabilities) that HIV is the cause of AIDs. I have searched for this information over the years and have not found it.

To those prompt to crucify me with an air of indignation: Are you displaying bad faith to cover up for your gullibility over the last 20 years?

To all others, relax - the danger is not as real as what we have been conditioned to believe over the years.

If my words here made sense to you, shoot me back a little email ( [email protected] )It'll be nice to know that I am not the only one in the industry with similar views.

Thanks for reading.

Best, Kris Kramski

[KMR Stitch]

hmm...

[Jace]

oh, and this was tagged onto the end of the article...LOL

LF Staff wr-ites: If Kris Kramski who has no medical degree really backs his words and wants to lay rest to his theory, I'm curious how willing he'd be to inject the HIV virus into his blood stream for the sake of medical science.

[cherrylula]

yeah there are also male pornstars out there with conspiracy theories who think aids is fake...and they wouldn't bother with tests if it was not enforced either.

[stevecore]

kramski... must be polish.

[IPK]

Originally posted by stevecore
kramski... must be polish.

lol

[Mr. Mojo Risin]

[genomega]

It has never ever been proven scientificaly that HIV causes AIDs.

This statement is true.

If you wish to learn more there are many newsgroups devoted to this subject with phd's on both sides of the issue.

[emmanuelle]

Many people subscribe to that theory
http://www.aliveandwell.org/

[stev0]

haha, that's funny...

From what i understand HIV doesnt always develop into aids, but it usually does... having HIV is definately NOT healthy.

[J-Reel]

Originally posted by emmanuelle
Many people subscribe to that theory
http://www.aliveandwell.org/

Interesting...


This web site introduces many scientific challenges to widely held beliefs about HIV and AIDS and explains these in simple terms. You'll find surprising facts about risks, insights into why testing HIV positive is not a death sentence (or even an indicator of infection with HIV), and discover how unfounded estimates and unfulfilled predictions have shaped the public's perception of AIDS.

We invite you to use the articles, information, references, and links at our site to conduct your own investigation and arrive at your own conclusions about HIV and AIDS.

[DR_PHIL]

whatever makes him more money to believe..i am sure he has the scientific experience and degrees to make a claim like that

[LadyMischief]

He's a fucking idiot. If he's so sure, he should go bareback Laura Roxx, cuz she's not gonna be getting any for a while.

[Webasic]

fuckin' idiot

[NoCarrier]

Yeah, go to Africa, and tell to the millions of children who lost their parents that HIV does not cost AIDS.

Ignorance is one thing. Just in case he doesn't not know, africans can't afford to take any medication. So this theory is fucking lame.

[tbabe]

wonder if he believes the earth is flat

[boneprone]

huge fucking idiot.


All we need in our industry is more people like this dumbass making public statements.

People like this are just like the same idiots who say the Holocaust didnt exist.

They read some bullshit and then they believe it...

[DWB]

While he is correct on the testing for antibodies... I have to say "WOW" to the rest.

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Yeah, go to Africa, and tell to the millions of children who lost their parents that HIV does not cost AIDS.

Ignorance is one thing. Just in case he doesn't not know, africans can't afford to take any medication. So this theory is fucking lame.

Well, fact is that exactly in Africa many ppl not believe in AIDS

[necoeds]

Originally posted by boneprone
huge fucking idiot.


All we need in our industry is more people like this dumbass making public statements.

People like this are just like the same idiots who say the Holocaust didnt exist.

They read some bullshit and then they believe it...

sorry bone.... i completely disagree with you.... two completely different things, and have no business being in the same sentence IMHO

the first part though

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally posted by necoeds



sorry bone.... i completely disagree with you.... two completely different things, and have no business being in the same sentence IMHO

the first part though

Boneprone is rather right and he also got the proper education to say that, hehe.

[boneprone]

If this guy really is a "Director" of sorts with Hustler, these statements just represented our entire industry to the public that we as an industry are ignorant and irresponsible in dealing with, educating, preventing, as well as lack an ability to police ourselves with our lack of education on this virus..

If this statement gets out on FOX news and this schmuck is really some legit dircetor of some big named company like Hustler, this statement is going to create a wave of negative public perception of us, our industry and our ability to police ourselves in the spread of HIV and the like..

I hope this is all just bullshit, and not an official statement from an official person in and official company with a well recognized name in our biz.

[MetaMan]

im so glad i dont do any biz with any of you coked out faggots, i hope u all rot in hell.

[baddog]

Originally posted by necoeds



sorry bone.... i completely disagree with you.... two completely different things, and have no business being in the same sentence IMHO

the first part though

are you suggesting Holocaust didnt happen?

[necoeds]

Originally posted by MetaMan
im so glad i dont do any biz with any of you coked out faggots, i hope u all rot in hell.

I'm Rick James.... BIATCH

[necoeds]

Originally posted by baddog


are you suggesting Holocaust didnt happen?

No.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by baddog


are you suggesting Holocaust didnt happen?

putting the same arguments together is inaccurate though.

there are plenty of well respected research that says it HAS been exxagerated not that it didnt happen at all, there is a difference.

i WONT play the devils advocate on THIS ONE though hahaha you guys can argue it out.

start here: http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/id44.htm

Its referred to as "the holocaust industry"

again, i wont argue this hahaha but you cant really put the two together, anyhow... argue amongst yourselves.

[baddog]

Originally posted by necoeds


No.

okay, just wanted to make sure I did not misinterpret what you said

[baddog]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


putting the same arguments together is inaccurate though.

there are plenty of well respected research that says it HAS been exxagerated not that it didnt happen at all, there is a difference.

i WONT play the devils advocate on THIS ONE though hahaha you guys can argue it out.

start here: http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/id44.htm

Its referred to as "the holocaust industry"

again, i wont argue this hahaha but you cant really put the two together, anyhow... argue amongst yourselves.

nah, I wouldn't have argued with him, , , , I was just going to put him on ignore as an idiot

[Trixie Racer]

Originally posted by boneprone
If this guy really is a "Director" of sorts with Hustler, these statements just represented our entire industry to the public that we as an industry are ignorant and irresponsible in dealing with, educating, preventing, as well as lack an ability to police ourselves with our lack of education on this virus..

If this statement gets out on FOX news and this schmuck is really some legit dircetor of some big named company like Hustler, this statement is going to create a wave of negative public perception of us, our industry and our ability to police ourselves in the spread of HIV and the like..

I hope this is all just bullshit, and not an official statement from an official person in and official company with a well recognized name in our biz.

Thank you! I couldn't have worded that better.

[Fletch XXX]

you guys should halt the smear campaign and realize Hustler and VCA STOPPED SHOOTING, and whoever this guy is has no say in what goes on in Hustler production.

this thread is a smear campaign.

[Peter Romero]

Kris Kramski is a fucking drug addict. His shoots last 28 hours as he does coke in the bathroom for a half hour while the cast & crew waits & rolls thier eyes when he comes out. Who cares what he thinks.

[digifan]

Originally posted by boneprone
huge fucking idiot.


All we need in our industry is more people like this dumbass making public statements.

People like this are just like the same idiots who say the Holocaust didnt exist.

They read some bullshit and then they believe it...

[Rich]

Originally posted by JaceXXX

LF Staff wr-ites: If Kris Kramski who has no medical degree really backs his words and wants to lay rest to his theory, I'm curious how willing he'd be to inject the HIV virus into his blood stream for the sake of medical science.

owned

[wdsguy]

what a dumbass

[Halcyon]

1) Kramski makes some beautiful erotic films. Play his "PornoVision" to anyone who thinks smut can't be art.

2) While I think that every precaution should be taken, and the timing of his statement is a bit irresponsible, I do know a number of Scientists who quietly agree with Kris.

I personally don't agree, but I don't dismiss it as garbage, either.

The problem is that Science is political.
And once we as a nation take a stance on something scientific, it can ruin a scientists career (end of funding) to question it. You can call him an idiot. But if you think that ability to earn billions of dollars off a situation doesn't cloud the truth the public is presented...well, I've got a bridge to sell you in Baghdad.
The pharmaceutical industry is not to be trusted.

[shepherd]

No matter how you look at it, when big money is involved there are allot of possibilities for foul play.
AIDS is the battle of the minds. What we know about it is what we were fed by people with much interest in it, mostly financial interest.
While I take no sides as I have not studied the subject myself, I tend to agree and respect the open mind approach to AIDS.

>> http://www.aliveandwell.org/

Very interesting!

[Peter Romero]

Kris Kramski lost his series with Hustler last October.

Kris does not, and cannot speak for Hustler.

Kris WAS an independent contracted director for Hustler Video

Larry Flynt can speak for himself, I'm pretty sure of that.

[mryellow]

He should be sacked to demonstrate that our industry isn't that
stupid.

Yes a HIV+ test just means you have antibodies and yet they
may well have been successful in fighting off the infection.
However if they didn't kill the virus before it took hold then you
will likely have health problems within a few years. It takes only a
slight understanding of how these things work to not fall for this
garbage site.

You know there are sites that show young girls how healthy and
good being anorexic is? So is it healthy to starve yourself? It's on
an internet site... It must be true.

Remember y2k? Remember how it wasn't as big as predicted?

Why?

Because people spent a shitload of money preventing it from
becoming a problem in major systems. I myself had to change
code which would have messed up a whole database on
01/01/2000. Of course all the predictions haven't come true. How
many people used condoms before HIV came about? What's this
bullshit about it only being in certain groups?? Does he STILL
think that only gays get HIV?!?

Sure drug companies are bad.....
Doesn't change the fact ppl are dying.

Sure the research might not be complete.....
Doesn't change the fact that connections have been made. If the
research were complete we'd already have a cure.

This is how science works. If not every part of the problem has
been explained then there will always be people with theories
about other possible explanations. Some are plausible and
warrant further investigation. Some are just emotional garbage
with no scientific basis. Shit according to some no one has ever
climbed some cliffs at the South Pole and so the world is flat and
lizard ppl live under the ground.

As for that site.... I have learnt nothing from it after reading
through quite deeply. It has no links to study results. It presents
no facts that aren't just spin on gaps for uneducated people. I
see it as just being a denial outlet for someone who tested
positive and didn't want to die.

If she included just ONE link to an actual study that showed facts
on either side of the fence I'd be a little more interested. Instead
she provides links to 101 conspiracy theory sites and books you
can buy. Guess if she talks long and loud enough she'll be a
scientist with publishable, factual results.

-Ben

[infecto]

Ugh...people like this just do more damage then anything else.

[Axeman]

Originally posted by stevecore
kramski... must be polish.

Fucking Polish.

[$5 submissions]

Kramski is mirroring the view of a TINY MINORITY in the AIDS debate. For more scientific background on this "HIV Dissident" view, try http://www.sumeria.net/aids.html

[makefuckingmoney]

So should I reschedule my double anal shoot I have for sunday afternoon?


Please let me know asap!

[sexsup]

Originally posted by boneprone
huge fucking idiot.


All we need in our industry is more people like this dumbass making public statements.

People like this are just like the same idiots who say the Holocaust didnt exist.

They read some bullshit and then they believe it...

Ditto. I hope that interwiew is fake

[matty]

People who say the Virus is harmless have it.

[Krille]

well if he says so it must be true

[goBigtime]

Originally posted by Halcyon

The pharmaceutical industry is not to be trusted.

^ What he said.

[boneprone]

ok ok ok....

Lets ignore the THOUSANDS of case studies in medical Journals and the thousands of Studies and research studies that have been Validated thorough case study after case study in legitmate health journal over health journal in the worlds most legitmate health universities and other valid medical establishments that have lead the world out of the dark ages with medical advancements of medicine, public health and valid creditable research and take the word of some hippie self proclaimed "scientists" who are unhappy with the capitilistic nature of Americas Pharmacutical companies driven by paranoia concperacy of mistrust and misinformation of a supposed conspiecy of an HIV virus to put money in the pockets of drug companies on a fake virus that leads to a fake disease that is falsly taking the lead as a top killer in 3rd world countries of other people who share this lack of or distrust to recognize this for what it really is..

A disease spread soley by ignorance and lack of education.
Something that by some here is dismissed as something that cant affect ones self and doesnt really exest and is just one big marketing gimick by the man to take our money.

Fucking distrubing..

I knew some webmasters were fucking idiots.. But this just blows my mind.

After meeting so many webmasters over so many years, yeah I believe it now when Im told some of you only have a highschool education.. But now im wodering if some of you even have that.

Just fucking amazing.

The only drugs most of you people trust are the ones passed out in clubs or smoked at parties.. Unfortunatly the shit is getting to you fucking hippies and rotting your brains.

[boneprone]

Im outta here...

Going to the Bahamas in a few hours..

I dont have time to read anymore bullshit as disturbing as it is.

Fucking disturbing...

Really.

You guys are like fucking kids.

Stupid ones.

The media is gunna focus in on how stupid many in this industry really are with thier views..

Fuck, maybe we cant police ourselves and the government should step in.. Or at least they are starting to make me think it.

[zzgundamnzz]

The dude must of been smokin something bad when he said HIV was harmless...