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dabomb · 04-17-2004, 03:15 AM

can anybody tell me a processor i could use to charge per minute on my own camsite? i want to stop videochathosting on ifriends and start doing it myself; i'm sick of losing 50%, especially when almost all of the traffic i bring there myself. and since clickcash is so fucked up, i never get the 100% from the signup that i'm supposed to get. what are my options in terms of charging per-minute on my own site?
thx

jovigirl · 04-17-2004, 06:00 AM

You can use ccbill dialers I guess.

dabomb · 04-17-2004, 01:08 PM

but doesn't CCbil only do recurring memberships? i don't think you can charge per minute.... or maybe i don't really understand what a "dialer" is...

icedemon · 04-17-2004, 01:23 PM

CCBill has a per-minute via dialing a 900# or having the computer dial a certain number. PayWide offers the same feature. I can get you setup through PayWide which doesn't charge as much as CCBill (we both use the same system).

You can send me a email if you want to
gfy AT paywide.com

You can also get your own 900# and do it yourself. You'd have to get a programmer to set it up for you.

newbreed · 04-17-2004, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by icedemon
CCBill has a per-minute via dialing a 900# or having the computer dial a certain number. PayWide offers the same feature. I can get you setup through PayWide which doesn't charge as much as CCBill (we both use the same system).

You can send me a email if you want to
gfy AT paywide.com

You can also get your own 900# and do it yourself. You'd have to get a programmer to set it up for you.

How do you get your own 900 number?

stephanie m. · 04-17-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by dabomb
can anybody tell me a processor i could use to charge per minute on my own camsite? i want to stop videochathosting on ifriends and start doing it myself; i'm sick of losing 50%, especially when almost all of the traffic i bring there myself. and since clickcash is so fucked up, i never get the 100% from the signup that i'm supposed to get. what are my options in terms of charging per-minute on my own site?
thx

Heya~

If you use your 100% link when you sign new clients up you definately get 100%. I dont belive you would get the 40$ cc signup fee though.

Please icq me

dabomb · 04-17-2004, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by stephanie m.

Heya~

If you use your 100% link when you sign new clients up you definately get 100%. I dont belive you would get the 40$ cc signup fee though.

Please icq me

that's the whole reason i'm sick of ifriends. they do NOT CONSISTENTLY give me 100% on the traffic i bring in (my signups). i am a serious earner for them, so the difference in one client for one evening could be $500 instead of $1000. it has happened TOO MANY TIMES. and i'm sooo fucking sick of it. i could be making a lot more with my own traffic, instead of bringing it to ifriends, you see what i mean?

icedemon · 04-17-2004, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by newbreed

How do you get your own 900 number?

Do a search on Google and you'll find a ton of them that can set people up with a 900#. Here are some.
http://www.paypercall.com/adultline.html
http://www.best900.com/
http://www.nwnt.com/
I don't know anything about these companies. So I don't know if you should trust them or not.

Most of the people that I know have the customer pay ahead of time for so many minutes to do a live chat/video.

stephanie m. · 04-17-2004, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by dabomb

that's the whole reason i'm sick of ifriends. they do NOT CONSISTENTLY give me 100% on the traffic i bring in (my signups). i am a serious earner for them, so the difference in one client for one evening could be $500 instead of $1000. it has happened TOO MANY TIMES. and i'm sooo fucking sick of it. i could be making a lot more with my own traffic, instead of bringing it to ifriends, you see what i mean?

Im talking about this link

http://www.iFriends.net/JoinMe.htm?YourVCHscreenname

not this one

http://ClickCash.WebPower.com/SetPermanentSignuphahahahahaha.cgi?svc=IF&lang=ENG LISH&type=BOUNTY&mode=1& art=JOINMENOW&acct=YOURSCREENAME&url=https://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpadultmain.htm

Do you have ICQ?

dabomb · 04-17-2004, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by icedemon

Do a search on Google and you'll find a ton of them that can set people up with a 900#. Here are some.
http://www.paypercall.com/adultline.html
http://www.best900.com/
http://www.nwnt.com/
I don't know anything about these companies. So I don't know if you should trust them or not.

Most of the people that I know have the customer pay ahead of time for so many minutes to do a live chat/video.

OK, but is a 900# still what i want if what i'm trying to do is charge per/minute for ver?

dabomb · 04-17-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by dabomb

OK, but is a 900# still what i want if what i'm trying to do is charge per/minute for ver?

*for video (not ver) sorry for typos

dabomb · 04-17-2004, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by stephanie m.

Im talking about this link

http://www.iFriends.net/JoinMe.htm?YourVCHscreenname

not this one

http://ClickCash.WebPower.com/SetPer...BOUNTY&mode=1& art=JOINMENOW&acct=YOURSCREENAME&url=https://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpadultmain.htm

Do you have ICQ?

I HATE HATE HATE THE FANCLUBS. so i don't use the 1st link ever. i use the 2nd link and sometiems i get 100% and sometimes i don't. but, according to ifriends, i SHOULD get 100% with both links. i just added you to icq, do you see me?

icedemon · 04-17-2004, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by dabomb

OK, but is a 900# still what i want if what i'm trying to do is charge per/minute for ver?

Personally, I would do what my friends do. Charge the customer on their credit card for a block of minutes. So they can buy 10, 20, 30 or what ever minutes you want to charge them.

You could use both credit cards and 900#. If you get your own 900#, you'll be paying out alot for the setup and programming. So only get your own if your bringing in good money. Otherwise if you want to go the 900# route, your best bet would be through CCBill or PayWide. The only problem with going through CCBill or PayWide is your going to be paying out a percentage that you wouldn't have to pay if you had your own 900#. PayWide charges 5% - 8%. I think (not sure) CCBill charges 11% - 14%.

I might be able to set you up through PayWide to charge per minute via credit card. I'd have to look into it though.

sjoerdv · 04-17-2004, 02:09 PM

http://www.goodthinxx.com/

dabomb · 04-17-2004, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by icedemon
CCBill has a per-minute via dialing a 900# or having the computer dial a certain number. PayWide offers the same feature. I can get you setup through PayWide which doesn't charge as much as CCBill (we both use the same system).

You can send me a email if you want to
gfy AT paywide.com

You can also get your own 900# and do it yourself. You'd have to get a programmer to set it up for you.

i just called CCbill and they can't charge per minute. all they do is charge a fixed amount and you have to convert it yourself into minutes (e.g. he paid me $50, he gets 10 minutes with me). what i want is a system just like ifriends, where the person comes in and immediately starts getting charges per minute, like $5, not .30 cents with a dialer. the more and more i read about dialers, the more bogus they sound. i want a FIXED RATE that EVERYBODY pays to access my video and i don't want them to have to prepay...

icedemon · 04-17-2004, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by dabomb

*for video (not ver) sorry for typos

You can setup a 900# so that the customer can enter the website to view the video and then disconnect the customer when he/she hangs up. That what the 900# that both CCBill and PayWide does. It allows access to the website until the person hangs up the phone to the 900# or disconnects through the dialer (if you want to use the dialer method).

You can see how the 900#/dialer thing works at
http://www.adult-cybergames.com/join.html
First button that says "Per Minute via Telephone Billing"

newbreed · 04-17-2004, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by dabomb

i just called CCbill and they can't charge per minute. all they do is charge a fixed amount and you have to convert it yourself into minutes (e.g. he paid me $50, he gets 10 minutes with me). what i want is a system just like ifriends, where the person comes in and immediately starts getting charges per minute, like $5, not .30 cents with a dialer. the more and more i read about dialers, the more bogus they sound. i want a FIXED RATE that EVERYBODY pays to access my video and i don't want them to have to prepay...

Good luck. I've asked this same question here before and got a bunch of software solution spams but nothing that was designed for ONLY what you are talking about. Everything out there is some mod on another system.

icedemon · 04-17-2004, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by dabomb

i just called CCbill and they can't charge per minute. all they do is charge a fixed amount and you have to convert it yourself into minutes (e.g. he paid me $50, he gets 10 minutes with me). what i want is a system just like ifriends, where the person comes in and immediately starts getting charges per minute, like $5, not .30 cents with a dialer. the more and more i read about dialers, the more bogus they sound. i want a FIXED RATE that EVERYBODY pays to access my video and i don't want them to have to prepay...

I can get PayWide to set you up to charge per-minute via credit card and/or online checks. Do you happen to have your own merchant account? Send me a email
gfy AT paywide.com
or call me toll free at
1.877.PAYWIDE x4

SykkBoy · 04-17-2004, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by dabomb

i just called CCbill and they can't charge per minute. all they do is charge a fixed amount and you have to convert it yourself into minutes (e.g. he paid me $50, he gets 10 minutes with me). what i want is a system just like ifriends, where the person comes in and immediately starts getting charges per minute, like $5, not .30 cents with a dialer. the more and more i read about dialers, the more bogus they sound. i want a FIXED RATE that EVERYBODY pays to access my video and i don't want them to have to prepay...

The only way to do that is to get your own merchant account that allows open ended billing and it's almost impossible to find a processor like that.

Otherwise, you'll have to do what everyone else does and charge in blocks of time.

Babagirls · 04-17-2004, 03:55 PM

your on IFRIENDS??????

wow!!!!!!!!!

run....dont walk, RUNNNNNNNN from them!!!!!!!!!

stephanie m. · 04-17-2004, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

The only way to do that is to get your own merchant account that allows open ended billing and it's almost impossible to find a processor like that.

Otherwise, you'll have to do what everyone else does and charge in blocks of time.

Ifriends charges by the minute so there must be a way to set it up.

stephanie m. · 04-17-2004, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by Babagirls
your on IFRIENDS??????

wow!!!!!!!!!

run....dont walk, RUNNNNNNNN from them!!!!!!!!!

Why do you dislike ifriends?

Babagirls · 04-17-2004, 04:00 PM

check out sexxyeyes.com and tell them Lexas20 sent ya

stephanie m. · 04-17-2004, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by Babagirls
check out sexxyeyes.com and tell them Lexas20 sent ya

I hosted on there a few years back and never had much traffic. Its a shame too since they pay a higher %

SykkBoy · 04-17-2004, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by stephanie m.

Ifriends charges by the minute so there must be a way to set it up.

do you have ifriends type of money? can you process as much $$ as they do? have you been around since 1996?

dabomb · 04-17-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

The only way to do that is to get your own merchant account that allows open ended billing and it's almost impossible to find a processor like that.

Otherwise, you'll have to do what everyone else does and charge in blocks of time.

how do i find a processor like that?

dabomb · 04-17-2004, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by icedemon

I can get PayWide to set you up to charge per-minute via credit card and/or online checks. Do you happen to have your own merchant account? Send me a email
gfy AT paywide.com
or call me toll free at
1.877.PAYWIDE x4

no i don't have a merchant account yet. any suggestions?

Kard63 · 04-17-2004, 10:47 PM

What do you mean a 900 number? To dial with your modem? What if they have broad band ?

Donnie Gangsta · 04-17-2004, 11:03 PM

ifriends can do this because they have the money leverage. you cannot charge open ended per minute without doing at least $500k or so per month in processing. we just started doing it with live web friends but are very conservative about it -- we cut people off after a bit of spending.

an individual cam operator cannot find a merchant account which will allow this. I would suggest either a dialer or just doing blocks of time, or deal with ifriends if that's what you're used to..

dabomb · 04-17-2004, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
ifriends can do this because they have the money leverage. you cannot charge open ended per minute without doing at least $500k or so per month in processing. we just started doing it with live web friends but are very conservative about it -- we cut people off after a bit of spending.

an individual cam operator cannot find a merchant account which will allow this. I would suggest either a dialer or just doing blocks of time, or deal with ifriends if that's what you're used to..

it just doesn't make sense to me why an individual cam operator wouldn't be able to do this? fine, put limits on it....but per/minute sales should be possible...is this asking too much? we can put a man on the fucking moon but we can't charge per minute, WHAT THE FUCK?

Kard63 · 04-18-2004, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by dabomb

it just doesn't make sense to me why an individual cam operator wouldn't be able to do this? fine, put limits on it....but per/minute sales should be possible...is this asking too much? we can put a man on the fucking moon but we can't charge per minute, WHAT THE FUCK?

What about what icedemon said ?

dabomb · 04-18-2004, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by Kard63

What about what icedemon said ?

i don't want to use a dialer.... everything i've heard about them, they just seem bogus. plus i don't want to go through a billing processor that can't spell on their own website.

icedemon · 04-18-2004, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by Kard63
What do you mean a 900 number? To dial with your modem? What if they have broad band ?

What I was thinking is either the computer dial the 900# and get access to the website or the customer can just call it, get a pincode, enter that into the website (which logs the ip address with the phone number that is connected to the 900#. The customer would remain connected until the customer hangs up (and doesn't let that ip address in anymore). There are probably several different ways of making it work with a 900#. It would require a programmer that knows what he/she is doing.

dabomb would have to get his own 900# to charge what he wants per minute. Alot of times the company you get the 900# from also has a programmer that can do the programming involved and supply the needed hardware/server to make the whole system work. I would recommend talking to a couple of 900# service providers to see what they think would work the best.

Zprogramz · 04-18-2004, 09:03 PM

Netbilling does pay per minute billing. I know they process for several networks such as Camz.com and Peekshows.

Z

icedemon · 04-18-2004, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by dabomb

i don't want to use a dialer.... everything i've heard about them, they just seem bogus. plus i don't want to go through a billing processor that can't spell on their own website.

What spelling mistakes did you see on PayWide????

dabomb · 04-18-2004, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by icedemon

What I was thinking is either the computer dial the 900# and get access to the website or the customer can just call it, get a pincode, enter that into the website (which logs the ip address with the phone number that is connected to the 900#. The customer would remain connected until the customer hangs up (and doesn't let that ip address in anymore). There are probably several different ways of making it work with a 900#. It would require a programmer that knows what he/she is doing.

dabomb would have to get his own 900# to charge what he wants per minute. Alot of times the company you get the 900# from also has a programmer that can do the programming involved and supply the needed hardware/server to make the whole system work. I would recommend talking to a couple of 900# service providers to see what they think would work the best.

why even go through a 900#? it sounds really complicated...it's easier to just have them put in their credit card info, right? i mean, the typical guy is going to be online anyways, and then come to my site....when does the 900# come into play? what if they are using their phone line already for internet access and cannot call any number.... i guess i am not understanding the technicalities...

p.s. i'm a girl

i want to do this for my own camsite instead of getting pimped out of 1/2 my earnings....

dabomb · 04-18-2004, 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by icedemon

What spelling mistakes did you see on PayWide????

you had "reasonably" mispelled, but i see that you've corrected that now. much more professional

dabomb · 04-19-2004, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Zprogramz
Netbilling does pay per minute billing. I know they process for several networks such as Camz.com and Peekshows.

Z

really? i will call them to find out, thank you!

iarylif · 04-19-2004, 06:11 AM

Hi there we have a dialer that is converting the traffic around 1:40 - 1:60

We have just adquire our own route for Us, and we are offering to
end user cost 0.99$
payout is 0.25$ on 30 days
if over 5k per day hit me up and discuss better rates

Icq:218-112-712

rowan · 04-19-2004, 07:48 AM

Does your chat have audio? You could set it up so that you're speaking to them on the phone (via a 900 number), and you give them a password to access the video stream...

dabomb · 04-19-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by dabomb

really? i will call them to find out, thank you!

so i called netbilling, talked to karen, and found out that there are no more merchant accounts being offered to adult businesses??

so without a merchant account you can't use netbilling...

dabomb · 04-19-2004, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by rowan
Does your chat have audio? You could set it up so that you're speaking to them on the phone (via a 900 number), and you give them a password to access the video stream...

that is a good idea, but not all guys want phone (neither do i, always). and i have no idea how the phone system works...how much cut they'll get, how much i can charge, how much it is to set up....etc, etc, etc.....i wish i could do this without phone!!!!

04-17-2004, 03:15 AM	#1
dabomb Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 190	how to charge per minute can anybody tell me a processor i could use to charge per minute on my own camsite? i want to stop videochathosting on ifriends and start doing it myself; i'm sick of losing 50%, especially when almost all of the traffic i bring there myself. and since clickcash is so fucked up, i never get the 100% from the signup that i'm supposed to get. what are my options in terms of charging per-minute on my own site? thx

04-17-2004, 06:00 AM	#2
jovigirl Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On the edge Posts: 1,796	You can use ccbill dialers I guess. __________________ ICQ :333-548-380

04-17-2004, 01:23 PM	#4
icedemon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lutz, FL Posts: 1,022	CCBill has a per-minute via dialing a 900# or having the computer dial a certain number. PayWide offers the same feature. I can get you setup through PayWide which doesn't charge as much as CCBill (we both use the same system). You can send me a email if you want to gfy AT paywide.com You can also get your own 900# and do it yourself. You'd have to get a programmer to set it up for you. __________________ Clips4Sale.com

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04-17-2004, 01:08 PM	#3
dabomb Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 190	but doesn't CCbil only do recurring memberships? i don't think you can charge per minute.... or maybe i don't really understand what a "dialer" is...

04-17-2004, 02:09 PM	#14
sjoerdv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South America Posts: 350	http://www.goodthinxx.com/

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Kard63 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 237 619 975 Posts: 8,944	What do you mean a 900 number? To dial with your modem? What if they have broad band ? __________________

04-17-2004, 11:03 PM	#29
Donnie Gangsta Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,104	ifriends can do this because they have the money leverage. you cannot charge open ended per minute without doing at least $500k or so per month in processing. we just started doing it with live web friends but are very conservative about it -- we cut people off after a bit of spending. an individual cam operator cannot find a merchant account which will allow this. I would suggest either a dialer or just doing blocks of time, or deal with ifriends if that's what you're used to..

04-18-2004, 09:03 PM	#34
Zprogramz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,360	Netbilling does pay per minute billing. I know they process for several networks such as Camz.com and Peekshows. Z

04-19-2004, 06:11 AM	#39
iarylif Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 74	Hi there we have a dialer that is converting the traffic around 1:40 - 1:60 We have just adquire our own route for Us, and we are offering to end user cost 0.99$ payout is 0.25$ on 30 days if over 5k per day hit me up and discuss better rates Icq:218-112-712 __________________ Ready to earn MONEY??

04-19-2004, 07:48 AM	#40
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Does your chat have audio? You could set it up so that you're speaking to them on the phone (via a 900 number), and you give them a password to access the video stream...