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Originally posted by Rich
Ok, you say you want intellectual rebuttals. I assume you're not serious, but here it goes. Please, read what I'm about to wr<!f>ite and think about what I'm saying instead of thinking about how you're going to come back to it to continue convincing yourself that you're right and I'm wrong. I promise to give your response the same.
On September 11th, Saudi Citizens trained and paid for by Osama Bin Laden killed 3000 people. After the first plane hit, Bush went into a children's classroom to read a book. After they told him the 2nd plane hit, he sat their with a smile on his face, and read the story. He could have been scrambling planes, or at least been somewhere where he could have done that if need, seeing as he's the ONLY MAN IN AMERICA who is authorized to give the command to shoot down American civilians. Anyone who has worked in an air traffic control tower or been in the air force knows the other 3 planes should have been shot down. When everyone was banned from flying after 9/11, he rounded up all the Bin Laden relatives and Saudi Royals and flew them out of the country, even though the FBI wanted to question them. Turns out Bush has been doing business with them for years. Now, I understand that most republicans are not capable of admitting anything negative about Bush, but these are all facts that the administration does not deny. These are facts everyone should know, and any one of them should be an impeachable offense, but the media would rather talk about gay marriage and other distraction issues. Certainly Republicans will retort with mindless rambling about the Saudi's being good, Osama being the only bad apple in the family, etc. The truth is as recently as last year BOTH were found funding terrorism though a Washington based charity. The terrorist training camps continue to flourish, yet Bush has never mentioned them, and actually pulled troops out of the country.
Now, assuming you haven't yet switched into right wing defense mode and started writing something about a tin foil hat or my post being to long, you'll be asking yourself, why the fuck would they let 9/11 happen and then not catch the killers? Well, for the answer to this I'll refer you to the neo conservative report entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses". If you don't know, the Neo Conservatives are a group of people who believe that America should control the entire world, and to do whatever it takes to ensure that no other nation becomes a competing super power. In the Reagan and Bush administrations, they were considered hardliners, they were there with their views but no one planned on following them, people had the common sense to realize that their goals were unattainable and pointless. Then comes Bush and his Vice President, king of the neo cons mr. Dick Cheney. Once they get in power, they fill other key positions with prominent neo cons, including Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and Richard Perle. They have policies about nearly every foreign policy issue, which always follow the same line of America controlling every nation's economy and natural resources.
You can read all about them on their own website http://www.newamericancentury.org,,,/ (remove 3 commas from url). I suggest starting in "Publications and Reports" - "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century". I'm sorry, but if you're going to vote for Bush, or push your views on the war, you really don't have enough information without having read at least this one report.
Among many other things they talk all about Iraq, how whatever nation gets their oil could become a super power. It also talks about fighting multiple simultaneous "theater wars" to prove American dominance. Notice George Bush referred to Iraq as a "theater in the war on terror" during his speech. The report also talks about creating the ballistic missile defense program, creating new and more powerful nukes, both things Bush has started. They're trying to start another cold war, which is why they don't want to get Bin Laden or any real threats to America.
In this report, they realize that it will take decades to convince the American people to buy this imperialism, unless of corse, they had September 11th to exploit.
"Further, the process of transformation even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor".
This administration did nothing to stop the WTC attacks, and have since exploited the sympathy and fear of the American people so they don't question their hardline agenda. They didn't tell you before they went into Iraq that it was to help the Iraqi people or provide stability in the middle east or whatever shit they're saying now, no, they say Iraq was responsible for 9/11, and that Iraq has WMD. If you think Bush and Cheney care about middle east democracy, tell me what dictator is ruling Iraq 5 years from now.
Their plan is to have never ending war and poverty. Their plan is to start the draft in June 2005. Their plan is to use fear and religion as tools to exploit the goodness of the American people, so they can fulfill their insane plot and give huge no bid war contracts to themselves and their friends.
Please stop allowing Fox and other news stations to summarize the news for you. Do a little reading a research for yourself. When TV tells you about something that you find interesting, something that will be affecting your opinions, go online and read the full story. You're comparing this war to WWII, which is laughable to most rational thinking people. The comparisons end at the # of people killed on US soil. Unfortunately because of Bush's lack of doing anything to fight the real terrorists, more likely than not there will be another tragic event in the US, which Cheney will then use to go into Iran, Syria, or one of the other countries on his hit list. Everything I've said in this post comes directly from the mouths of Dick Cheney and the neo cons, or from the Sept 11 hearings. The full hearings, not the 8 minute clips they show on TV.
Now, logically, looking at all this should raise an eyebrow. The truth is, we're going to have people like 12clicks and netrodent in this thread with half ass responses that Fox and talk radio have trained them to say when they here something that proves them wrong. "You're lying", "You're a moron", and "it was all Clinton's fault" are three that I'm predicting. They argue because they don't believe anything besides the official whitehouse story... to look at reality would be to admit they were wrong. I understand not wanting to admit mistakes, I understand years if not decades of believing one thing, I understand pressure to not disappoint parents, I understand all the reasons people make up excuses not to even try to look for the truth. It's a lot nicer to live in a world where you're always right, always doing the right thing, and always safe. Too bad that isn't reality.
You're being told that to be a conservative is to support Bush and the war machine, but that's simply not true. You're being told that to question it is to be unpatriotic and means you don't support the troops, that couldn't be further from the truth. Anyone who looks at the situation without bias can easily see what's going on. Why continue to believe and support an administration that has been proven to have lied to you over and over again?
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12clicks, if you could read with any kind of understanding you'd have a hard time arguing anything I've said above. I know you think one liners about it being to long and a couple smilie faces will make you look smart, but it won't. Time to disappoint mommy and daddy and admit you've been supporting someone who's doing more harm than good. |
