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jimmyf 04-15-2004 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by poodle
summary of what webmasters said about mpa2:

1. shaving capability
2. not reliable
3. not flexible
4. buggy
5. poor support
6. over-charge $$
7. bad public image

bad public image is the biggie I think.

Jace 04-15-2004 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
jesus christ, isn't it a federal crime to "shave"?

why not report these companies that you all yell so much about to the authorities?

if someone was stealing my money I would want them locked up!


poodle 04-15-2004 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by Oystein


Here is the original press release:

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Mansion Productions and ClickTruth.com Announce Partnership

Los Angeles, March 30, 2004 ?The Online Adult industry's most advanced billing and affiliate management software, MPA3 from Mansion Productions, has now partnered with the most trusted third-party Sponsor Auditing and Accounting service in the industry--ClickTruth.com. The strategic alliance announced today offers an unparalleled system of end-to-end billing, affiliate management and anonymous traffic/join auditing, for the largest to even the smallest Sponsor programs.

Through a process of installed scripts, credit card post-back data, and rigorous, anonymous testing and auditing, ClickTruth.com is able to confirm that webmasters are getting credit for every sale their traffic generates to a sponsor program. All that is required for webmasters to participate is to register their current affiliate ID's for free at the ClickTruth.com site for the programs they promote. Random audits are performed regularly on all enrolled members accounts with participating Sponsors, so every web master can sleep better at night knowing they are in the "preferred" list. In addition, individual web masters can have specific audits performed on their traffic for a nominal charge, to ensure that they are being credited for every sale. No more accusations and no more worries!

The ClickTruth service helps Sponsor Programs prove they are treating their web masters fairly, and gives everyone involved confidence that no "shaving" is occurring. The Porn Posse owns and operates ClickTruth.com. It's CEO, Johnny V explained, ?When every slow sales period generates accusations of shaving from under-performing webmasters, it is nice for a Sponsor Program to defer to a third party to calm the hysteria. When it becomes a my-word-against-yours situation, it?s tough to find resolution. ClickTruth allows program owners to stop worrying about disgruntled accusations and gives webmasters the tools to audit for themselves in a blind, random fashion!"

Both companies understand the need for freedom of choice, and this offer will be available for anyone running Mansion Productions new MPA3 platform that is due to be hitting the market this spring.

This partnership is yet another example of how Mansion Productions works hard to brings more value to its webmasters. The new and improved MPA3 platform will ADD to its already impressive feature list:

?Reward system ?A popular loyalty program that rewards your webmasters with goods or services.
?Shopping cart
?Fraud control Feature. IP tracking where the MPA3 program will tag a particular webmaster has signed up to the same site or different sites in the program sent by the same IP address. This is especially useful tool to control and reduce webmaster fraud in affiliate programs.
?Geo Tracking ?IP Tracking Script. Tracking which country the surfer originates from and therefore, supplying the surfer with the best billing alternative.
?Sub admin login ?add others sites to your program and give access only to their admin stats
?Database agnostic
?Multiple tours option

And more to be disclosed at launch?

Several Sponsor programs have been quietly using the ClickTruth service for months. Flashcash and PornKings were early adopters who used ClickTruth to give piece of mind to their webmasters. "Quite simply, we've always paid out honestly on every sale." said Jason Rhino of FLASHCA$H; "ClickTruth lets a third party prove that for us." Other programs are in beta testing now, including StiffyCash, FasterBucks, and GammaCash/GammaExtreme. Now, any MPA3 customer who elects to add the ClickTruth.com service can do so at a discounted price and offer their webmasters peace of mind.

To learn more about this partnership and how you can take advantage visit www.mansionproductions.com or email [email protected].


About The Porn Posse:
The Porn Posse has been in involved in the online Adult entertainment industry since 1999 and can be found at www.pornposse.com as well as at all of the shows. The Posse's goal is to become the leading Trusted, Third-party service provider in the online adult industry by bringing the most technically advanced solutions to Adult Web Masters interested in increasing Revenue, cutting Operating Expenses and building a trusted, loyal following of members and affiliates.

About Mansion Productions:
Founded in 1997, Mansion Productions specializes in providing Webmasters with tools that will allow them to grow with ease. Focusing on Programming, Consulting, Design, Hosting they take pride in providing individualized attention with a plan of action that is targeted for your audience. To learn more about Mansion Productions and their products be sure to visit www.mansionproductions.com

***

:thumbsup


do you think you are smarter than affiliates ? you have been helping those sponsors cheat affiliates for so long, now your shaving dirty job is exposed, you need apologize to adult community sincerely. but instead you continue to fool this community by claiming using clicktruth, which is also a stupid lie. I want to challenge you, please answer my questioin in technical level:

How does clicktruth get signup info ? from processors or from sponsors ?

Doctor Dre 04-18-2004 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by QuaShe


Guess its the shaving option.

You said it all

Doctor Dre 04-18-2004 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuaShe


Stop it dude, its not worth it. They just don't seem to understand that ANY program can have a shave function :2 cents:

No doubt but when it's THAT easy it makes me suspicious why would a webmaster want to use them ...

newbreed 04-18-2004 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by newbreed
Still a few unanswered questions in this thread, and people wonder why MPA2 gets knocked so much...

Doctor Dre 04-18-2004 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by Nathan
kmanrox,

I know that most people think the main reason people switched away from MPA2 is because of the shaving feature and the resulting bad press, but after switching over multiple MPA2 installations to NATS and discussing things with our clients, we have learned that there were multiple other issues they were having.
For examples features they were looking for that MPA2 did not offer, but also little things like the system not being fully templated, so changing design elements in the resellers area always had to go via Mansion.

The bad press most likely gave some people the last needed reason to move away from MPA2.

I am also sure that MPA2 has quite a few happy customers who need many more reasons to switch to another system.

Yo no offence but you are trying to push your program too much for me ... Explain what's bad with mpa2 ... people can see your sig and will see you know what you are talking about . He didn't asked for spam . :) thanx

Doctor Dre 04-18-2004 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halcyon


You is ignorant.

Plus, Mansion just partnered with ClickTruth.com, too. So, they are actually a safer bet than most programs.

Look they made shave-o-meter once ... Why can't they do it again ? It's not ignorance . If some1 fuck me over in the butt I won't let it happen twice. I'ma beat the fucker down every time I see and hear about it . It was a wrong decision at the start and they are paying the price ATM .

Doctor Dre 04-18-2004 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fyrflygrl
HI !!! I like to spam my products in a thread that never asked for it ...

CAHEK 04-18-2004 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by poodle
summary of what webmasters said about mpa2:

1. shaving capability
2. not reliable
3. not flexible
4. buggy
5. poor support
6. over-charge $$
7. bad public image

well said

CAHEK 04-18-2004 08:10 AM

50 scammers

candyflip 04-18-2004 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Did you not even read the title of the thread? Her product is relevent to the thread :1orglaugh

Hanging Judge 04-18-2004 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by poodle



do you think you are smarter than affiliates ? you have been helping those sponsors cheat affiliates for so long, now your shaving dirty job is exposed, you need apologize to adult community sincerely. but instead you continue to fool this community by claiming using clicktruth, which is also a stupid lie. I want to challenge you, please answer my questioin in technical level:

How does clicktruth get signup info ? from processors or from sponsors ?

Poodle--We can get signup data either directly from the processor or directly from the Sponsor--we have implemented both. However, if you stop to think about it for a moment, you will realise that it doesn't matter where you get the data from, it matters what is in the data....

No one can fake it through a random audit. If you'd like, and if you actually have traffic and joins rather than just post count, please hit me up personally...I can show you how we test and we can actually run some audits on your traffic streams. If you have a Sponsor prog that you use, that we do not audit yet, let me know...I LOVE explaining to them how they need to prove it to the industry that they are legit in order to continue doing biz with folks like you.

173121828

Edge

Doctor Dre 04-18-2004 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip


Did you not even read the title of the thread? Her product is relevent to the thread :1orglaugh

Ugh yes ... she's spamming it like hell ... she's not telling us why her script is better then MPA2 except for the shaving feature ...

jayeff 04-18-2004 10:28 AM

Generally I'm sceptical about sponsors, neither trusting nor distrusting them. But that's not enough for a sponsor I know is using software which has a cheat feature built in: him I have to trust him not to use that feature. Since there are very few sponsors I consider I know well enough to extend that kind of trust to, if a sponsor uses MPA2, I'm unlikely to touch them.

Come to that, Mansion would not have included a feature with no value except to dishonest sponsors, unless they wanted to do business with such sponsors. Why, even indirectly, should I do business with people who are out to screw me, or those who apparently have no problem with that aim?

fyrflygrl 04-29-2004 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
Did you not even read the title of the thread? Her product is relevent to the thread :1orglaugh
Thanks, candyflip! :glugglug

I was shooting my spam straight from the hip :BangBang:

Doctor Dre, the better solution is the one that meets your needs.

If you have questions about TabooRevenue:

http://taboorevenue.com
sponsors at taboorevenue dot com
1 1 5 3 4 4 5 3 8

..... or you can start a thread asking about affiliate software, and I'll 'spam it!' :Graucho

Fyrflygrl

Morgan 04-29-2004 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wiggitywack
Partnersoft v5

best product on the market, hands down

http://x3scripts.com/partnerprogram.html?

call them for a demo and ask them what other proggies use
them - you soon how some serious players use PS5 and why they do.

- wiggity

$7500 ? Damn, better be good!!!

How much is MPA2 again?

ztik 04-29-2004 07:20 PM

custom is the only way to go

Jace 04-29-2004 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
$7500 ? Damn, better be good!!!



no shit, jesus!

undermyspell 04-29-2004 07:32 PM

The biggest problem I saw was the flexibility of reporting available for the program owners. You couldn't run reports individually or do a full listing of the database of webmasters that weren't active currently or that were active currently and separate those down so you know who to contact and see if they need help or a boost to get started promoting again. The reports available were not helpful in the least if trying to asist your webmasters with their conversions or sales. The reliability at one point and load time was very poor. Not sure if it's gotten better or not.

necoeds 04-29-2004 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip
Monolith

http://www.speira.com

:thumbsup

bhutocracy 04-29-2004 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by undermyspell
The biggest problem I saw was the flexibility of reporting available for the program owners. You couldn't run reports individually or do a full listing of the database of webmasters that weren't active currently or that were active currently and separate those down so you know who to contact and see if they need help or a boost to get started promoting again. The reports available were not helpful in the least if trying to asist your webmasters with their conversions or sales. The reliability at one point and load time was very poor. Not sure if it's gotten better or not.
The reporting could be a hell of a lot better.. charts and graphs etc. theres a hell of a lot of information there, should be put in easy to digest visual cues.

OY 04-30-2004 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
The reporting could be a hell of a lot better.. charts and graphs etc. theres a hell of a lot of information there, should be put in easy to digest visual cues.
All products have room for improvements. Including MPA2 - that is why we have created MPA3. The new version, which by the way is completely re-written, will blow your mind away on all the features that we have added. Including reports. Big time.

The clue is, GET BETTER AT WHAT YOU DO BEST :thumbsup


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