LA Porn Industry To Shut Down

[Mutt]

I've been saying this since the news came out, a total shutdown is the only hope at containing this. And now it's happened.

They simply can't track down all the third and fourth generation people who could be ticking time bombs so no other choice but to shut down until all 12 original girls are cleared. If anyhahahaha from the second generation list tests positive - goodnite Irene.

Closed until June,08, 2004


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CHATSWORTH, Calif. - While appreciating the financial burden that a moratorium on production places upon the entire industry, we see no other recourse considering the dire consequences of not doing so.

While the first-generation has been identified and quarantined, and AIM is rapidly creating a quarantine list for the second-generation, there is no doubt that there is already a third- and even fourth-generation in the outbreak.

The third- and fourth-generation is not being quarantined; AIM simply can?t track down that many people fast enough.

Thus we recommend that all adult companies cease production, or at the minimum shoot condom-only productions, until all women who have worked with Darren James since his last negative test, known as the ?first-generation? have cleared. That will be on June 8, 2004.

In addition, we recommend that any woman who has performed with Darren James since Feb. 25 contact AIM. Most women in this category will have already passed their 30-day hahahahahaha, but as AIM?s Dr. Sharon Mitchell stated this morning there is a 60-day hahahahahaha before a person who has had sex with an HIV-positive partner can be 99 percent certain that infection has not occurred.

James is believed to have caught the virus while in Brazil around March 10, and later today AIM should be able to give a ?guesstimate? of when that happened based on further tests on the amount of antibodies in James? blood.

This is about the lives of our friends, our family, and our peers. While it is highly unlikely, it is possible that every performer in the adult industry could have HIV by this point. If you are talent and choose to work, your putting your life and also anyone with whom you have any form of sexual contact your partner?s at risk.

If you are a production company that hires talent that becomes infected with HIV during one of your productions ? you may be found liable. Think about that when you?re looking at your balance sheets and your conscience. You will definitely lose two months worth of production, but you could lose your entire company and live out your life knowing you contributed to someone?s death for your profit.

Another consideration is that the government is watching the manner in which the adult industry handles this very closely.

The specter of regulation still looms over our shoulders and if the state deems that we, as an industry, handled this situation in an irresponsible manner, then this could be the final straw. That means condom-only forever.

There are two companies, Vivid Video and Wicked Pictures, which have been producing condom-only videos for some time in the face of market demand for videos without condoms. Their decision to place the safety of their performers above their profit should be commended; it should also serve as an example.

Tim Connelly, publisher of AVN adds, ?If you are a performer in the adult industry at this moment, your hahahaha could very well be a deadly weapon and if you are a production company you are potentially putting innocent people in the line of fire. Some may consider this business a high wire act for performers, but there?s no reason to play Russian Roulette for the sake of another porn scene.?

[DarkJedi]

Nigga please.

[Fletch XXX]

People on this board really dont understand LA and how big a part of this industry it is.

Weird times.

Good thread Mutt.

[bigdog]

mutt do you think the gonzo companies will ever go with condoms?

[Peter Romero]

Every shoot I had scheduled... cancelled.

Every casting... cancelled.

Every performer... suspect.

Every studio... not gambling with lives.

Every week... I test again.

Everyhahahaha everywhere else... this aint so funny.

[AMADude]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
People on this board really dont understand LA and how big a part of this industry it is.

Weird times.

Good thread Mutt.

I agree.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Such a catastrophy that will never be televised...
Oh this aint news worthy or anything KTLA, FOX...

What a fucken world...
Its going to shit in a hand basket.

[Tanker]

it will be interesting to see what idiots keep producing

[Mutt]

there is a very real possibility that the gonzo companies will have to go condom only, in L.A. at least. If this gets out of hand, meaning some of these 12 girls turn HIV positive - this is going to be all over the mainstream press. It's already on Drudge and I think it brought down AVN's server.

Money is huge in gonzo in the DVD market and Internet - all the stuff we shoot for people is gonzo and all the video sites on the Net are gonzo. Gonzo fans HATE condoms - money talks.

this is already a bit of a nightmare, a real nightmare for Darren James and 12 girls sweating it out, but it really has the potential to be porn armageddon for the L.A. porn industry. Government will no doubt get involved soon if more test positive.

[titmowse]

condom-only-productions.com
and
condomnolyproductions.com

are both available

condom-only-productions. has a nice ring to it.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Mutt


Another consideration is that the government is watching the manner in which the adult industry handles this very closely.

The specter of regulation still looms over our shoulders and if the state deems that we, as an industry, handled this situation in an irresponsible manner, then this could be the final straw. That means condom-only forever.

There are two companies, Vivid Video and Wicked Pictures, which have been producing condom-only videos for some time in the face of market demand for videos without condoms. Their decision to place the safety of their performers above their profit should be commended; it should also serve as an example.

Ive said it before. Ive seen companies like VCA use condom only for anal. Sometimes you HAVe to. Regardless of what fans want.

This is a good part of the article.

[Manowar]

Originally posted by POV Porn guy
Every shoot I had scheduled... cancelled.

Every casting... cancelled.

Every performer... suspect.

Every studio... not gambling with lives.

Every week... I test again.

Everyhahahaha everywhere else... this aint so funny.

Good to hear, sad to say that theres probably some studios still going to be shooting during this time

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

"The specter of regulation still looms over our shoulders and if the state deems that we, as an industry, handled this situation in an irresponsible manner, then this could be the final straw. That means condom-only forever."

Mutt - We are already damned no matter what is done will be viewed with critism and subject. There will be no scrutiny, just evidence gathering.

[Shoehorn!]

Originally posted by Mutt

this is already a bit of a nightmare, a real nightmare for Darren James and 12 girls sweating it out, but it really has the potential to be porn armageddon for the L.A. porn industry. Government will no doubt get involved soon if more test positive.

Like the article said, depending on how this is handling could be not so bad for the industry (of course, getting an STD is disasterous) or a total nightmare. Hopefully everything will turn out O.K.

[AMADude]

Either way it is a HUGE wake up call. We all hope that none else are infected, but it sure woke a lot of us up.

[xxxdesign-net]

actually... they can pass a law requiring condom use for every productions... no matter how small they are... if they feel there's a danger for some people.. if not the population... I bet those talents are sleeping around on a regular basis.. not using condoms..

[Shap]

Great Thread Mutt

[Zebra]

Serious issue here but I have one issue with the AVN article that just seems funny to me.

Veteran performer Darren James was diagnosed as HIV-positive today, and Adult Industry Medical Healthcare Foundation (AIM) went immediately into motion to make sure that the virus is contained, quarantining 12 women who have been identified as first-generation performers, women who have slept with James since his last negative HIV result.
Performers who have slept with members of the first-generation are also quarantined, technically voluntarily, and AIM is working to identify other performers in that generation as well.

First generation performers are people that he SLEPT with? Why not just say "had sex with" instead of "slept with". We are all grown-ups here and we know that you don't get sex by sleeping with someone, you get it from the sex. Just like the fall from an airplane doesn't kill you, the sudden stop when you reach the ground is what does you in.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Make no mistakes there are plenty of elements in this industry that are highly prudish with the "Official Version" in story telling AVN is not the only one.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Zebra
Just like the fall from an airplane doesn't kill you, the sudden stop when you reach the ground is what does you in.

and some doctors would argue more than 50% of the people would have heart attack before hitting ground.

why play semantics?

[Anna_O]

Isn't the chance of actually getting infected by someone who recently got infected rather small?

[Joesho]

good thread Mutt,

[zzgundamnzz]

Its good to know that there playing it safe. But then again we all live off of porn

[TheEnforcer]

It will be interesting to see how big of an effect this has on the porn scene period. You hardly see any condom use at all in any video or web based movies nowadays.

[phogirl69]

It's also unfortunate that all of the first generation people are all women because I read somewhere that women are more likely to get it from males than vice versa, and I also read somewhere that almost all the scenes Darren had with the first generation were all anal.

I think it's especially a dangerous situation because of all of the emphasis on anal now on porn, I think anal is getting more popular than regular sex in porn, and studios like Red Light and Anabolic shoot mostly only anal and double penetration, which makes it so much more easier for HIV to be transmitted.

I'm practically a nun, I've only been with one guy in my entire 25 years and I'm already scared because he (my ex) got tattoos while he was in jail of all places, and I honestly don't know if he's at risk (since he was in there for a long time- 6 yrs , so I don't know if anything happened to him ). I think I should get tested too

[frankiep]

Any webmaster events coming up in L.A soon?

Wow!
Make sure you double bag it and definitly no hoodwashs without Jimmy.

[phogirl69]

Originally posted by clickhappy
I'm just posting this in case some people dont know.

If you've been exposed to hiv, like youre having sex with someone and they tell you afterwards that they're hiv positive

I wonder if this happens a lot? If someone did this to me, had sex with me and told me afterwards that they had HIV I would want to sue them for attempted murder (I have no idea if that would have any legal grounds) but that would seem like an incredible fucked up thing to do.

I know it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but I really hope no one that has HIV does that; sleep with someone and tell them afterwards they have the virus, or worse yet, not tell them at all. Wouldn't that be the same as murder?

[AMADude]

Your man got a tat while in prison and was there for 6 yrs. Get tested ASAP!!

[VirtuMike]

Now's the time for me to sweep in there and shoot a shitload of softcore CHEAP!

[tony286]

Originally posted by phogirl69
It's also unfortunate that all of the first generation people are all women because I read somewhere that women are more likely to get it from males than vice versa, and I also read somewhere that almost all the scenes Darren had with the first generation were all anal.

I think it's especially a dangerous situation because of all of the emphasis on anal now on porn, I think anal is getting more popular than regular sex in porn, and studios like Red Light and Anabolic shoot mostly only anal and double penetration, which makes it so much more easier for HIV to be transmitted.

I'm practically a nun, I've only been with one guy in my entire 25 years and I'm already scared because he (my ex) got tattoos while he was in jail of all places, and I honestly don't know if he's at risk (since he was in there for a long time- 6 yrs , so I don't know if anything happened to him ). I think I should get tested too

For your one time why did you pick that treasure ? lol

[JohnW]

As soon as the AIDs epidemic broke WIDE open in the early 80's, the "L.A." based porn industry should have adhered to a strict "condom only" practice, but no, production companies thought their sales would suffer...Morons...

In this industry, it's all about self regulation. Play with fire, get burned.

It's sad, but this is just the market correcting itself in the face of adversity. It'll come out stronger, but there will be suffering along the way.

We here in Vancouver have ALWAYS adhered to a self regulatory condom only policy. Always, no exceptions and the talent thank us for it.
If you're thinking that production companies won't hire you if you wish to perform with out condoms, bullshit. Come to Vancouver, there are a half dozen production companies that'll put $'s in your pockets...

I'm out...

J.

[Babel]

Yep, alot of people are going to lose money on this one, and some their lifes

[angelsofporn]

what i dont understand is what the hell this guy was thinking going to a country like brazil where the infection rate is supposed to be around 1/3 of the population and having sex with girls without tests.
Supposedly 1 in 3 are positive in brazil..then he comes right back here and has sex with 12 girls without being tested..
idiot

[JFK]

Originally posted by AlienQ
Make no mistakes there are plenty of elements in this industry that are highly prudish with the "Official Version" in story telling AVN is not the only one.

They are trying to enter the mainsteram with their product, hence the prudishness

[llabtaem]

Originally posted by angelsofporn
what i dont understand is what the hell this guy was thinking going to a country like brazil where the infection rate is supposed to be around 1/3 of the population and having sex with girls without tests.
Supposedly 1 in 3 are positive in brazil..then he comes right back here and has sex with 12 girls without being tested..
idiot

I know. He had a death wish to fuck any Brazillian woman bareback. I can understand that after fucking literally 100's of women without a condom, it could become quite mundane, but come on... Very sad news.

[jhauser]

My heart goes out to all the innocent people hurt.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally posted by JFK


They are trying to enter the mainsteram with their product, hence the prudishness

But you have to realise "Mainstream" is off stream and an attempt to blend into it is futile.

The Adult Industry starts the waves now, let mainstream tag along for the ride if they want.

When "Big" White colar exec's with MBA's and Marketing degree's in adult biz realise that fact, then perhaps attempting to push the industry in unwanted corners of media will in all actuality reveal more easily opened doors.

They also have to realise there is a time and a place for Adult entertainment and that those that want it seek it out regardless.
However while in pursuit of "Mainstreaming" loss of site in the product value to target consumers is inevitable.

[Mutt]

Blame TTBoy more than this James guy. It's TTBoy's company he was paid to fuck those disease ridden little Brazilian girls for. If it wasn't him, it would have been some other guy TTBoy hired. Darren James was a journeyman in the porn biz, worked a hell of alot but was never going to be a star.

and yeah, looking at it now, somehahahaha dropped the ball on this, AIM knows that TTBoy and several other production companies in L.A. shoot regularly in the Third World of Latin America and there is no policy requiring talent do anything before they start working again in L.A.. Same thing goes for Eastern Europe where alot of companies are shooting now and even Canada where gonzo companies like Redlight occassionally shoot. Any country where they don't have the same rules and testing L.A. does, when u return u should have to head straight for AIM and sit out a month until u are cleared.

But .......... guess what....... these girls travel around and shoot in other cities in the U.S. like Miami where there is nothing like AIM, where girls work with complete amateurs who I really doubt have PCR DNA tests. That test costs at least $100, the guys barely get paid $100 per scene.

What makes this scarier than the Marc Wallice thing which is 10 years ago is that if go back and look at some porn tapes from that era you will see how rare anal sex was in porn. I wouldn't be surprised if 8-10 of these 12 girls had anal sex with Darren James. Anal is almost mandatory for scenes shot for gonzo companies. Vaginal sex it seems is antiquated.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by angelsofporn
what i dont understand is what the hell this guy was thinking going to a country like brazil where the infection rate is supposed to be around 1/3 of the population and having sex with girls without tests.
Supposedly 1 in 3 are positive in brazil..then he comes right back here and has sex with 12 girls without being tested..
idiot

I have been saying this on this board for over a year now discussing PCR DNA.

This type of activity goes on EVERY DAY AND NIGHT OF THE WEEK in La Porn.

There will always be some idiot pornstar fucking someone bareback, and then comes into work on Monday holding his PCR DNA that was taken previously.

This has been my warning to many on this board.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Mutt
That test costs at least $100, the guys barely get paid $100 per scene.

we've joked about this too.

nothing worst than hearing talent bitch about the cost of tests

hahaha

[Mutt]

Fletch that is true but the only solution to that is keep all porn talent in a dormitory with surveillance cameras 24/7 - let them out to go shoot and then back to the dorm.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Mutt
Fletch that is true but the only solution to that is keep all porn talent in a dormitory with surveillance cameras 24/7 - let them out to go shoot and then back to the dorm.

I know man, just stating there will always be people like this. You can't stop them. People must be responsible for themselves, but in this industry, sometimes that doesn't matter to them.

As you said it, these guys barely get 100$ a scene. Risk outweighs the profits if you ask me.

I prefer to stay behind the camera ;)

[Babel]

Originally posted by angelsofporn
what i dont understand is what the hell this guy was thinking going to a country like brazil where the infection rate is supposed to be around 1/3 of the population and having sex with girls without tests.
Supposedly 1 in 3 are positive in brazil..then he comes right back here and has sex with 12 girls without being tested..
idiot

At first I thouhgt you pulled that out of your ass but you are right on the money

http://www.census.gov/ipc/hiv/brazil.pdf

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
Its good to know that there playing it safe. But then again we all live off of porn

Thanks for pointing that out! Everyone is acting like it's "those porn people" when you will see how this affects everyone right now & in the near future. The ripple effect of this will rock every boat - trust me.

[jmarzlak]

wow I never thought of how this could really have a big effect on everyone.

[Paul -C-]

I guess this is gonna be a huge wake up call. Let's hope it doesn't become bigger than it is now.

[AnalProbe]

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I don't want to say it is true.

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[baddog]

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Nigga please.

^clueless^

[Dugmor]

Originally posted by VirtuMike
Now's the time for me to sweep in there and shoot a shitload of softcore CHEAP!

I am here and I am already on it ..........carpe diem !

[Firehorse]

A problem is a chance for us to do our best. Anything less will be unnaceptable!