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Old 04-14-2004, 08:59 PM   #51
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send me her paypal account via icq dugmor
Honestly I was trying to help her last week make enough money to get home !

She is here now and we just finished the first set of questions,

I am now going to let her read all your questions herself and anything you want to say to her.

Sleazy is the most generous person I know. He has helped many people in need !
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Old 04-14-2004, 09:01 PM   #52
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Life can be cruel in the streets of LA. I"t is the land of dreams and dreams broken" Ask her if she really thinks moving to LA is going to change the beauty of the internet and working remotely from where ever you are? or does she like to give wedgies or recieve them?
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Does she intend to remain in the business if negative?
If she does intend to stay in business what are her new terms?
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if she is POSITIVE how is she going to tell or explain to future sexual partners that she is HIV infected?

does she plan to tell all future sex partners she is positive?

if she was going to do a one night stand with someone (using condoms) ; would she still tell that person she is infected?
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dugmor - hit me up on icq. money won't do a lot in this situation but i want to at least send you some money so you can take her out to dinner or order in something nice.
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Old 04-14-2004, 09:21 PM   #56
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send me her paypal account via icq dugmor

Thats very nice of you to help a person in need Sleazy.
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dont you think when you enter this biz there are many, many risks you take?

a tight rope walker MAY fall and some do.

were you aware of these risks? did you take these things into consideration?
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Not all all. This is a very serious issue.

I am not interviewing Patricia.

I am interviewing Laura Rox and she does'nt have any friends close. She is hoping that she can find support here on GFY.

Last week I tried to help her by getting enough money to get home and not even be invloved in the Porn Industry. She came to LA unprepared and did'nt know anyone. I tired to give her the best advice and told her to go home. She was pretty set on working and making some money.

Now is facing a serious issue and can use any support she can get !

If she needs a girl to talk to I'll be on ICQ. Please give her a hug.
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if she is tested negative, will she continue doing porn ?
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i hope she is ok.


do the producers use any of those instant blood or saliva tests to test for HIV? (i know they arent totally accurate, but they cant hurt)
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Old 04-14-2004, 09:38 PM   #61
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this is an abusive thread, this no doubt wasn't the girl's idea.

i know Jessica Dee through Joe AMA, she is in the same boat as this Patrice girl and frightened out of her mind shaking and in constant tears, she is not doing an interview on GFY - she is with friends.
Mutt, really it isn?t an abusive thread. I feel for the girls and guys who are a waiting their results but fucking for money there are risks. Rather than sugar coating it, if the women is honest in responding to some of the questions asked, she could help some of the new girls entering the business.

There are really pretty girls working at a local GAP getting paid $7.35 per hour and the thought of getting paid 750.00 plus for a few hours of work really sounds great until one tells them about all the negatives. If they agree, they know the risks. Sounds mean but it is the truth.
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This is a bad situation.. a question and answer session will solve nothing as all the answers she gives now will come from being scarred and will change once she knows final results. Im very close with Jessica Dee and she just wants to be left alone. The more people that talk to her about it , the more she thinks about it and the more she freaks out. She feels better today as she had a negative test... But Dugmor , nix the public relations and questionaire. Take her to a movie. I will also chip in for dinner for the girl or any other girl. But change the subject.
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dont you think when you enter this biz there are many, many risks you take?

a tight rope walker MAY fall and some do.

were you aware of these risks? did you take these things into consideration?
I have no suggested questions, many good ones are listed, but this quote really stands out to me.

Honestly, I do not think a mental disposition to a risk is all that relevant in a situation like this.

Was she aware of the risk? Well of course she was, it comes with her territory.

Certain aspects of my life come with attached risk: surfing to name one. Do you not empathize with a football player who breaks his neck making a tackle? He knew the risk. I don't think asking him after the fact if he assumed the risk before suiting up is very meaningful. Should she be asked this because she has sex for a living? Should our attitudes contain a "she knew what she was getting into" because of the sexual aspect involved?

She is in a very dismal place in her life right now (much like the others listed). But she is in no way any different from any other person that assumes a risk with occupation or hobby (when you think about it, most of us do). Yes, she knew the risk, but more important than that, she is a human being no different than any of us and maybe gearing questions and attitude according to the human side of things, rather than a condescending aspect, would yield a more telling and insightful interview.

Hopefully, everything is ok for her, as well as everyone named / involved. I don't know her, but she has my support.

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This is a bad situation.. a question and answer session will solve nothing as all the answers she gives now will come from being scarred and will change once she knows final results. Im very close with Jessica Dee and she just wants to be left alone. The more people that talk to her about it , the more she thinks about it and the more she freaks out. She feels better today as she had a negative test... But Dugmor , nix the public relations and questionaire. Take her to a movie. I will also chip in for dinner for the girl or any other girl. But change the subject.
excellent advise. i feel ashamed i didn't realize that. Dugmor - do what you can to make her FEEL normal and loved
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With all of the advancements in AIDS treatments in the last 10 years, what do you fear more: the symptoms of HIV or being unable to work in the adult industry?
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dugmor - hit me up on icq. money won't do a lot in this situation but i want to at least send you some money so you can take her out to dinner or order in something nice.

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she has good right to be freaked - be nice to her, she's a human being like anyone else who was unknowling put into a life threatening situation. No different than waiting to find out if you have cancer or not.

Ask her if she has any sort of medical insurance that'll cover drug costs - Tell her that if caught early enough HIV can be controlled for years with drugs.

Also remind her that hundreds of people are working on a cure - if diagnosed and treated there is no reason to believe it'll be fatal within the next 10 years. But if positive she will have to go through a lifestyle change - sex is really out of the question cept with other positive people and ask her how she feels about that?

Also ask her if she had sex with anyone after the infected guy - what kind of sex she had with them (condom, anal, etc) and if she took steps to inform those people of the potential risk she unknowingly exposed them to.

positive or not, HUG HER. dont' be afraid to. You will not catch aids form a hug. there is a good chance she is feeling very alone right now and like noone will want to ever touch her again and if that's true that's just wrong.
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excellent advise. i feel ashamed i didn't realize that. Dugmor - do what you can to make her FEEL normal and loved
Yeah, I agree too. There are a zillion questions I would like to hear the answers to, but that really only benefits our curiosity. I think more than anything else, she needs to just be treated normally and be shown that positive or negaive, she still has our respect, love and support.
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DUDE , do you have ANY morals... leave these girls alone. We all know there is a problem... no need to plaster her pic

Jesus people. sit back and just wait... it sux but its reality and there is no choice.
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Life can be cruel in the streets of LA. I"t is the land of dreams and dreams broken" Ask her if she really thinks moving to LA is going to change the beauty of the internet and working remotely from where ever you are? or does she like to give wedgies or recieve them?
wtf?

i don't get people - fucking depressing as hell.
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Best wishes to Laura and all of the others.

If she needs money to get home, I'm sure Dugmor could raise a little here on GFY. It's been done before.
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DUDE , do you have ANY morals... leave these girls alone. We all know there is a problem... no need to plaster her pic

Jesus people. sit back and just wait... it sux but its reality and there is no choice.

What are you talking about ! I have been the only one that was here for her before and after she had to deal with this.

I have taken more time out of my personal and business life to help this girl with no thought of compensation !

She is feeling very comfortable and happy that there are people here to support here while she waits the outcome !

You can stop reading and posting on this post because all you are is negative !
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some people want to be alone in these situations and others want to feel like they have friends around them.

I'm confident that dugmor knows the difference and is doing the right thing for her.

dugmor - still havn't heard from you on icq yet
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What are you talking about ! I have been the only one that was here for her before and after she had to deal with this.

I have taken more time out of my personal and business life to help this girl with no thought of compensation !

She is feeling very comfortable and happy that there are people here to support here while she waits the outcome !

You can stop reading and posting on this post because all you are is negative !
Something like this has to be extremely scary, give her all the support she needs. Time will pass, things will get better.
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i'd just like to know if she has ever done a hardcore shoot without having to provide test results.

and i hope the best for her
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some people want to be alone in these situations and others want to feel like they have friends around them.

I'm confident that dugmor knows the difference and is doing the right thing for her.

dugmor - still havn't heard from you on icq yet
Right now the only thing she has is an empty hotel room !

Having people here for support is something special ! This is one of those times that GFY is very helpful to a person in need.

No worries Sleazy........... I got dinner covered.

Thank You agian Sleazy !
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What are you talking about ! I have been the only one that was here for her before and after she had to deal with this.

I have taken more time out of my personal and business life to help this girl with no thought of compensation !

She is feeling very comfortable and happy that there are people here to support here while she waits the outcome !

You can stop reading and posting on this post because all you are is negative !
Dugmor there is nothing positive now about anything.. posting this girls picture on the board aint gonna change anything , and a fuckin questionaire sure wont help. Im not dragging Jessica around the boards.. buy her dinner man
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I totally think its good of you Dugmor to spend time with her , but posting on the boards can bring negative results as you see what some of the assholes post about this situation.
But Im sorry , i think the " EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW " thing was extremely inappropiate. Half the questions people will ask simply are none of thier buisness. Only people concerned should be the people that work infront of camera. I may be wrong , but Im sorry thats what I think.
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Does she want to go home and be with family and friends? She's not forced to stay in L.A., nobody can make her stay there if she wants to go home. She can have the testing done in Montreal.

if she wants to go home and it's a money thing then let's raise some money and get her home. Being 3,000 miles from home in some motel room alone waiting to find out these test results has got to be terrifying.
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Hey POV, you make good use of the links I gave you.

I was first thinking about starting a new thread about it, but I see it pops up everywhere now.


Bottomline is, allthough hard to believe --> Benzene --> AZT --> AIDS


According to the article, if you have HIV, you should cure yourself by curing your immune system and NEVER use any medicines.

Did you know that the same companies are behind the food- and pharmaceutical industries ?

The food and pharmaceutics (lubricants in this case) that make you ill are sold by the companies that have the cure.

Around 10 years recurring income, not bad for them, huh ?
Those are some amazing articles.
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Does she want to go home and be with family and friends? She's not forced to stay in L.A., nobody can make her stay there if she wants to go home. She can have the testing done in Montreal.

if she wants to go home and it's a money thing then let's raise some money and get her home. Being 3,000 miles from home in some motel room alone waiting to find out these test results has got to be terrifying.
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well? is that what Patrice wants?

what agency was repping her down there?
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well i'm going to bed, i'll check in this thread tomorrow for the answer.

i'm not religious, don't believe in God, but i will pray for Patrice and all the others.

that's all prayer really is, obsessive compulsive worrying in the hope it will favorably affect the outcome of an event.
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I totally think its good of you Dugmor to spend time with her , but posting on the boards can bring negative results as you see what some of the assholes post about this situation.

But Im sorry , i think the " EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW " thing was extremely inappropiate. Half the questions people will ask simply are none of thier buisness.

Only people concerned should be the people that work infront of camera. I may be wrong , but Im sorry thats what I think.
Laura Rox was in good spirits when she left and felt good that there are people here that care.

She wants her experience to help others and she was more than willing to answer all your questions. She wants to help or give advice to someone wanting to enter the business as an adult performer, there are risks and dangers.

These questions are very much part of everyone's business ...........NOT just people that work in front of the camera. We all know someone that works in front of the camera, so somehow it is every ones concern !

I am not really sure what you do AMA, but this is something very real. People should NOT just sit back ! This is something that everyone should be aware of. I respect Jessica Dee's decision to be quite.

Laura wants to very much get involved with educating and helping people what ever her outcome.
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Old 04-15-2004, 02:33 AM   #87
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... if you have HIV, you should cure yourself by curing your immune system and NEVER use any medicines.
My thought is assumptions like that are simply criminal

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Old 04-15-2004, 03:04 AM   #88
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How far are you willing to go for this?
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Old 04-15-2004, 03:07 AM   #89
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if she wants to go home and it's a money thing then let's raise some money and get her home. Being 3,000 miles from home in some motel room alone waiting to find out these test results has got to be terrifying.
My thoughts exactly, if any money is needed let me know.
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Old 04-15-2004, 03:27 AM   #90
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dugmor - hit me up on icq. money won't do a lot in this situation but i want to at least send you some money so you can take her out to dinner or order in something nice.
For what it's worth, your stock was went way up in my book. Same with you Dugmor. People can negatively stereotype this industry and the people involved all they want, but actions speak louder than words and what you guys are doing to try to help this girl out is great.
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Old 04-15-2004, 04:32 AM   #91
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I thought would bump, and offer my support..

Good luck everyone involved, i'm sure it's going to turn out fine.

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Old 04-15-2004, 05:48 AM   #92
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Laura wants to very much get involved with educating and helping people what ever her outcome.
It's commendable of Laura for her courage. If someone is going down the wrong road, they don't need motivating silence to speed them up. What's needed is education to turn one around.

Education is also progressive discovery of our own ignorance. One cannot however find with fault with Jessica Dee, Patrice, and others in quarantine for wanting to stay silent.

Everyone deals with a turn of events in the way that feels right to them.

Education is also not a form of entertainment, but a means of empowering people to take control of their lives. Why limit the questioning and answering to GFY?

If Laura wants to inform others one suggestion would be to web log the experience, getting her unique voice out to the entire net.

The easiest way to set up a Web log is to go to a site like blogger.com and register as a new user. It provides a customized Web log that one can use immediately.


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Old 04-15-2004, 06:56 AM   #93
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Dugmor - If you would contact me on icq 52624206 I will glady dontate a little something to help Laura get home to her family.
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Old 04-16-2004, 03:54 AM   #94
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I'm sorry to hear about the positive test result Dugmor. If there is anything myself or any others can do to make this easier on her, please let us know. This is a very tragic thing for anybody to go through...especially at such a young age.
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Uhh she is realy hot
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Old 04-16-2004, 04:05 AM   #96
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Uhh she is realy hot
Don't be a fucking dick. This woman is now HIV positive and all you can do is make an idiotic comment. Fuck off.

Just remember this face and what happened to her the next time you build a gallery with a woman getting fucked without a condom. Just know that you're exploiting women that you have ZERO respect for (And I mean 0). This isn't a "would you hit it thread". This is a thread dealing with a serious issue that is personal to many of us. Until you grow the fuck up, you have no right to be a part of this industry.
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Sad and unfortunate story.

I just cleaned out my paypal but if we are getting something together then i'll dump whatever i have left for the cause.

Regards.

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Old 04-16-2004, 04:11 AM   #98
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i wish her the best of luck. thats very nice of you dugmor and sleezy.
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Sad and unfortunate story.

I just cleaned out my paypal but if we are getting something together then i'll dump whatever i have left for the cause.

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I have no suggested questions, many good ones are listed, but this quote really stands out to me.

Honestly, I do not think a mental disposition to a risk is all that relevant in a situation like this.

Was she aware of the risk? Well of course she was, it comes with her territory.

Certain aspects of my life come with attached risk: surfing to name one. Do you not empathize with a football player who breaks his neck making a tackle? He knew the risk. I don't think asking him after the fact if he assumed the risk before suiting up is very meaningful. Should she be asked this because she has sex for a living? Should our attitudes contain a "she knew what she was getting into" because of the sexual aspect involved?

She is in a very dismal place in her life right now (much like the others listed). But she is in no way any different from any other person that assumes a risk with occupation or hobby (when you think about it, most of us do). Yes, she knew the risk, but more important than that, she is a human being no different than any of us and maybe gearing questions and attitude according to the human side of things, rather than a condescending aspect, would yield a more telling and insightful interview.

Hopefully, everything is ok for her, as well as everyone named / involved. I don't know her, but she has my support.


if you were a football player who broke his neck in a tackle i would hate it for you but you knew the risks of going onto a field with very big guys who are training day in and day out to knock you the fuck down.

im sorry for the girl. its sucks and i'll leave it at that.
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