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Morgan · 04-12-2004, 02:01 PM

I know there are issues with DVD's and VHS about fisting, but im curious to see where obscenity lies as to fisting websites. I have a gay scene for an upcoming site that has some hardcore twink fisting going on and wondering if its all good.

gornyhuy · 04-12-2004, 02:10 PM

All I know is that fisting is high on the target list and amongst the tops of that "Cambria List"... so beeeee careful.

Giorgio_Xo · 04-12-2004, 02:10 PM

Move everything offshore.

RP Fade · 04-12-2004, 02:11 PM

I wouldn't bring that kinda heat..

tony286 · 04-12-2004, 02:22 PM

its a no no unless you like jail lol.

Doctor Dre · 04-12-2004, 02:23 PM

Depends in wich state / country you are living

Mr.Fiction · 04-12-2004, 02:29 PM

No adult site is 100% legal while Bush is president.

just a punk · 04-12-2004, 02:45 PM

Fisting is absolutely legal in all civilized countries such as France, Germany and others (not the USA because there is no democracy but only total censorship now...)

tootie · 04-12-2004, 02:49 PM

Doesn't the Cambria list say that it is not considered fisting or obscene as long as the thumb remains outside the hahahaha? So it depends on the content. If the entire hand including the thumb is inserted then I believe it is considered obscene. But keep in mind the Cambria list was not developed by the government, it's just a guideline that someone (an attorney, I think?) came up with to educate people on what would most likely be considered obscene in most areas of the U.S.

tootie · 04-12-2004, 02:50 PM

On Jan. 18, 2001, Adult Video News reported on the so-called "Cambria List." Paul Cambria, a longtime attorney for the porn industry, was involved in the list's preparation. The list is controversial within the industry and interpretations differ on how it was meant to be applied. Some in the industry say it represents guidelines for the box-covers of adult videos, not for the sex acts they depict. Nevertheless, there is wide agreement that the Cambria List shows how the adult industry is seeking to be more careful, fearing a potential crackdown on pornography by the Bush administration.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...g/cambria.html

Morgan · 04-12-2004, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by tootie
it is not considered fisting or obscene as long as the thumb remains outside the hahahaha?

in this case, its not in the hahaha, its in the ass. And the dude's elbow deep!

directfiesta · 04-12-2004, 04:22 PM

Use amputated models: no fucking finger to worry about

neewwman · 04-12-2004, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
No adult site is 100% legal while Bush is president.

Exactly.

Giorgio_Xo · 04-12-2004, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Use amputated models: no fucking finger to worry about

Sweet had to take down Fistless.com so that wouldn't work.

WiredGuy · 04-12-2004, 05:50 PM

I wouldn't touch it... fisting, pissing, scat, animals, kids. All nono's.
WG

Martin32 · 04-12-2004, 06:47 PM

Anal fingering should be fine though

Martin

garett · 04-12-2004, 07:02 PM

I was just reading the cambria list:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...g/cambria.html

* No facials (hahahahashots are OK if shot is not nasty)
* No spitting or saliva mouth to mouth
* No peeing UNLESS IN A NATURAL SETTING e.g., field, roadside
* No blindfolds
* No wax dripping
* No two dicks in/near one mouth
* Toys are OK if shot is not nasty
* No black men-white women themes
* No male/male penetration
* No girls sharing same dildo (in mouth or pussy)

The last two are especially ammusing to me .. basically if the scene could be offensive a racist or a homophobe .. better not do it.

But man ..

a) No mention of suggestive underage subjects (schoolgirls or younger looking chicks)

b) Using blindfolds or wax drippings, which have been a common subject in softcore erotica in womens romance novels for decades is contraversial .. but it's perfectly ok to watch someone pissing as long as it's outside.

This is really fucked up. I was expecting stuff like "no simulated rape, no extreme bondage or pain, no feces or urine, no children, no animals etc." but instead it's more like 'don't piss off racists, homophobes, feminists who apparently don't mind you cumming on their tits just not their faces' etc.

Worldnet · 04-12-2004, 07:13 PM

Fisting, animal, rape, piss are some of John Ashhahahahaha's targets according to a news article I read recently.

doober · 04-12-2004, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by garett
I was just reading the cambria list:

* No facials (hahahahashots are OK if shot is not nasty)
* No spitting or saliva mouth to mouth
* No peeing UNLESS IN A NATURAL SETTING e.g., field, roadside

* No two dicks in/near one mouth
* Toys are OK if shot is not nasty
* No black men-white women themes
* No male/male penetration
* No girls sharing same dildo (in mouth or pussy)

These are everyday type scenarios....

they cant prosecute the above can they?

are they retarded??????

TheEnforcer · 04-12-2004, 07:17 PM

Not something I would want to be promoting right now.

LadyMischief · 04-12-2004, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
I know there are issues with DVD's and VHS about fisting, but im curious to see where obscenity lies as to fisting websites. I have a gay scene for an upcoming site that has some hardcore twink fisting going on and wondering if its all good.

Community standards are what help define what is "obscene"... believe me, it's not black and white in any situation. Fisting is "extreme hardcore" and is pretty much a community no-no... It's touch and go, ask a lawyer.

Worldnet · 04-12-2004, 07:19 PM

Here is an article about it:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal...home-headlines

emthree · 04-12-2004, 07:52 PM

I don't care for such things, But I still believe that people have the right to stick whatever wherever as long as it's self inflicted

...there will allways be little assholes who think they know what's best for others due to their standards and personal views

kowntafit · 04-12-2004, 08:52 PM

What is so bad about fisting?

Just say you had a major slut and your penis wasn't big enough.

Fingering is alright isn't it? So you slipped in, big deal.

Major (Tom) · 04-12-2004, 08:56 PM

ok that list basicaly says that 99% of the porn out there can be obscene. No facials? or two dicks near a mouth? Two girls sharing the same toy? Saying "suck this bitch." That pretty much sums up all the good stuff out there. The only stuff that's left are the movies from when ron jeremy was 120 lbs.
I'll take my chances and film the hardcore/extreme. However, I dont do the fisting. The pee stuff I am currently discussing this with my lawyer to see if the risk is worth it. There are a few obscenity cases out there due to pee. The outcome of the cases will determine alot.
Plus, I noticed that alot of billers process for pee sites. Basically, the more pee sites out there the more generally excepted it will become, thus leading it to be harder to proscute.
I dont know how fisting is looked at, but it's pretty common. I would say more men fist their girlfriends or wives in private than pee in their mouths.
Just have girls fisting girls, or girls peeing on girls. It seems to strike a nerve more with boy girl because of the "alleged" degradation. If you do girl girl i would highly doubt you would see any heat.
cheers
ds

fatal attraction · 04-12-2004, 09:36 PM

I heard a lawyer speak last year at one of the conventions and he said that pissing and fisting would be very hard to defend in court.

Veterans Day · 04-12-2004, 09:45 PM

what about squirting? Single girl female ejaculation sites? NOT pissing

fatal attraction · 04-12-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
what about squirting? Single girl female ejaculation sites? NOT pissing

lol.....for some reason, I think I might know you. do I????

Veterans Day · 04-12-2004, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatal attraction

lol.....for some reason, I think I might know you. do I????

fugetaboutit'

fatal attraction · 04-12-2004, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day
fugetaboutit'

hmmm???...made me curious!

spamofon · 04-12-2004, 10:12 PM

Veterans Day · 04-12-2004, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatal attraction

hmmm???...made me curious!

209598065 hit me up

Babagirls · 04-13-2004, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Depends in wich state / country you are living

R3jiek · 11-25-2005, 10:06 AM

But i can't put fisting or pissing video in my website ? I have seen more site that sell adult content for webmaster with this type of video

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tootie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Planet Earp Posts: 6,041	Doesn't the Cambria list say that it is not considered fisting or obscene as long as the thumb remains outside the hahahaha? So it depends on the content. If the entire hand including the thumb is inserted then I believe it is considered obscene. But keep in mind the Cambria list was not developed by the government, it's just a guideline that someone (an attorney, I think?) came up with to educate people on what would most likely be considered obscene in most areas of the U.S. __________________

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tootie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Planet Earp Posts: 6,041	On Jan. 18, 2001, Adult Video News reported on the so-called "Cambria List." Paul Cambria, a longtime attorney for the porn industry, was involved in the list's preparation. The list is controversial within the industry and interpretations differ on how it was meant to be applied. Some in the industry say it represents guidelines for the box-covers of adult videos, not for the sex acts they depict. Nevertheless, there is wide agreement that the Cambria List shows how the adult industry is seeking to be more careful, fearing a potential crackdown on pornography by the Bush administration. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...g/cambria.html __________________

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garett Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 683	I was just reading the cambria list: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...g/cambria.html * No facials (hahahahashots are OK if shot is not nasty) * No spitting or saliva mouth to mouth * No peeing UNLESS IN A NATURAL SETTING e.g., field, roadside * No blindfolds * No wax dripping * No two dicks in/near one mouth * Toys are OK if shot is not nasty * No black men-white women themes * No male/male penetration * No girls sharing same dildo (in mouth or pussy) The last two are especially ammusing to me .. basically if the scene could be offensive a racist or a homophobe .. better not do it. But man .. a) No mention of suggestive underage subjects (schoolgirls or younger looking chicks) b) Using blindfolds or wax drippings, which have been a common subject in softcore erotica in womens romance novels for decades is contraversial .. but it's perfectly ok to watch someone pissing as long as it's outside. This is really fucked up. I was expecting stuff like "no simulated rape, no extreme bondage or pain, no feces or urine, no children, no animals etc." but instead it's more like 'don't piss off racists, homophobes, feminists who apparently don't mind you cumming on their tits just not their faces' etc. __________________

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Worldnet Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 996	Fisting, animal, rape, piss are some of John Ashhahahahaha's targets according to a news article I read recently.

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Major (Tom) Boomer Woffen Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 30,597	ok that list basicaly says that 99% of the porn out there can be obscene. No facials? or two dicks near a mouth? Two girls sharing the same toy? Saying "suck this bitch." That pretty much sums up all the good stuff out there. The only stuff that's left are the movies from when ron jeremy was 120 lbs. I'll take my chances and film the hardcore/extreme. However, I dont do the fisting. The pee stuff I am currently discussing this with my lawyer to see if the risk is worth it. There are a few obscenity cases out there due to pee. The outcome of the cases will determine alot. Plus, I noticed that alot of billers process for pee sites. Basically, the more pee sites out there the more generally excepted it will become, thus leading it to be harder to proscute. I dont know how fisting is looked at, but it's pretty common. I would say more men fist their girlfriends or wives in private than pee in their mouths. Just have girls fisting girls, or girls peeing on girls. It seems to strike a nerve more with boy girl because of the "alleged" degradation. If you do girl girl i would highly doubt you would see any heat. cheers ds

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