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Old 04-12-2004, 07:31 AM   #1
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jail for spamming is stupid.

and no i have never sent a single spam, but locking someone up for sending out emails is just stupid. letting them pay money will do, no need for jail.
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:32 AM   #2
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Yeah I agree

You shouldn't go to jail for sending e-mails

That's pretty rediculous, but everyone hates spam so much I'm sure nohahahaha will mind but the spammers
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I am gonna report some of these fuckers that keep spamming me, so consider this fair warning if I am on your spam list, better remove me, I am forwarding all my unwanted spam to the authorities....
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:33 AM   #4
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:37 AM   #5
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I'd be OK with jail for a 2nd conviction. First conviction hit 'em with something like fines based on 2X provable income from the spamming. Make it easy for investigators to get payout records from sponsors if they have proof of spamming.
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:37 AM   #6
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In certain circumstances I think jailing for spam is neccessary.

If the average spammer wastes 3 seconds on average for 1 person, and they spam 10 million people, then that's about 8333 total hours they waste of human time.

Multiply that by a minum wage of 5.25 per hour, and that's $43750 wasted if you save an average our is worth the minimun wage.

$43750 in time wasted for 10,000,000 spam emails (based on these numbers)

I think it's worthy of jail time.
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:39 AM   #7
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we let rapists and killers out early because of overcrowding but yet they jail people for spamming..if thats the case this fucking chinese restaurant owner that always places their menus on my car should be arrested..and no i dont spam lol
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:40 AM   #8
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but junk mail in your residential mailbox is OK

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In certain circumstances I think jailing for spam is neccessary.

If the average spammer wastes 3 seconds on average for 1 person, and they spam 10 million people, then that's about 8333 total hours they waste of human time.

Multiply that by a minum wage of 5.25 per hour, and that's $43750 wasted if you save an average our is worth the minimun wage.

$43750 in time wasted for 10,000,000 spam emails (based on these numbers)

I think it's worthy of jail time.
Since when are people getting paid minimum* wage to read e-mails? Wasting time, yes.. But they're wasting time by being online anyway.. Spam could actually bring them something to do
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:41 AM   #10
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we let rapists and killers out early because of overcrowding but yet they jail people for spamming..if thats the case this fucking chinese restaurant owner that always places their menus on my car should be arrested..and no i dont spam lol
Here's an idea... for every 1 menu you have placed on your car hahahahahaha, tape 100 newpaper adds to THEIR hahahahahahas!
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:42 AM   #11
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and no i have never sent a single spam, but locking someone up for sending out emails is just stupid. letting them pay money will do, no need for jail.
I agree. Just take their money and kick 'em in the crotch, then send them on their way.
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:42 AM   #12
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fuck these stupid hahahahah's

Why can't we say W-I-N-D-O-W or B-O-D-Y ?
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:43 AM   #13
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They read the emails in their free time.
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:45 AM   #14
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:53 AM   #15
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:56 AM   #16
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Yep, zip the mails with full headers open and forward the ones that don't adhere to the new law to the State and Fed officials.

Take their properties and assets!

We save junk mail and invest about 10 bucks a year and mail big envelopes full of it to the people that sent the most each year. lol

Doesn't do any good, but it has to add some humor to SOMEones day out there. ;-)
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:18 AM   #17
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In certain circumstances I think jailing for spam is neccessary.

If the average spammer wastes 3 seconds on average for 1 person, and they spam 10 million people, then that's about 8333 total hours they waste of human time.

Multiply that by a minum wage of 5.25 per hour, and that's $43750 wasted if you save an average our is worth the minimun wage.

$43750 in time wasted for 10,000,000 spam emails (based on these numbers)

I think it's worthy of jail time.
People routinely embezzle much larger amounts of money than that and serve no time.
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:27 AM   #18
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I think spammers should have a choice of a fine of a penny per email sent, or a second in jail per email sent.

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Old 04-12-2004, 08:29 AM   #19
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In certain circumstances I think jailing for spam is neccessary.

If the average spammer wastes 3 seconds on average for 1 person, and they spam 10 million people, then that's about 8333 total hours they waste of human time.

Multiply that by a minum wage of 5.25 per hour, and that's $43750 wasted if you save an average our is worth the minimun wage.

$43750 in time wasted for 10,000,000 spam emails (based on these numbers)

I think it's worthy of jail time.

Nice rational, I am impressed
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:32 AM   #20
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I think spammers should have a choice of a fine of a penny per email sent, or a second in jail per email sent.

judging from my inboxes, that would add up fast
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:32 AM   #21
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you guys are really short minded
kush gave an example
do you have an idea how many billions of dollars in damages spam costs each year?
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:36 AM   #22
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:40 AM   #23
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and no i have never sent a single spam, but locking someone up for sending out emails is just stupid. letting them pay money will do, no need for jail.
The problem is they've been fined in the past and its proven not to be a strong enough deterrent to prevent them from continuing. At some point you have to raise the punishment to a point where they will think twice about their actions. Granted their will always be those who are going to try and get away with something. However, I guarantee you that when some of these cases send spammers to jail and its out in the press, there are some spammers who will cease what they are doing.
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:46 AM   #24
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They deserve jail? Spam is fuckin' anoying !
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Old 04-12-2004, 09:14 AM   #26
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The "jail" issue is the same thing as most computer crimes. A lot of hacking related offences can result in the same kind of punishments as more "serious" physical crimes.

However, the benefits/damages of hacking and spamming are so high that the only effective way to threaten the people who take part in these activities is to make the penalties extremely severe.
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The problem is they've been fined in the past and its proven not to be a strong enough deterrent to prevent them from continuing. At some point you have to raise the punishment to a point where they will think twice about their actions. Granted their will always be those who are going to try and get away with something. However, I guarantee you that when some of these cases send spammers to jail and its out in the press, there are some spammers who will cease what they are doing.
Yeah true but then a few guys will have to do quite some time only to be an example. Same thing with filesharing right now, ltos of attention from the media and stuff, but everyone's still doing it.
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Old 04-12-2004, 09:21 AM   #28
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Jail time might be a bit much but they should definitely fine spammers heavily
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I disagree .... our world is becomming more and more dependant on the Internet. People, organizations and government rely on the Internet for communication. Bandwidth is not cheap, and it is necessary.

When you start flooding pipes and routers with junk you are hurting a lot of people and costing them a lot of money.

First time offenders should be fined, but repeat offenders definitely should see jail time.
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Old 04-12-2004, 09:38 AM   #30
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It's about fucking time they start putting these fuckers to jail. The only thing that sucks, is that it will move offshore, to other countries..but at least it won't be as easy anymore to spam people.
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I go thru 140 spam every morning and 95% you cant get off their list. The difference between spam and junk mail is one they spend money to send it and secondly I can find the company that sent it very easily. Also graphic spam has to stop, people have to wake up and realize its going to seriously hurt our industry. Its adding lots of wood to the rights fire.
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People shouldn't have to worry about jail for publishing adult content either, but they do.

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Yeah I agree

You shouldn't go to jail for sending e-mails

That's pretty rediculous, but everyone hates spam so much I'm sure nohahahaha will mind but the spammers
No... I dont hate the mail, I hate the spammer mentality.

If they could just STFU here on the board... it had been ok..

Go registrer some spammahs board... I dont want to see there
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and no i have never sent a single spam, but locking someone up for sending out emails is just stupid. letting them pay money will do, no need for jail.
Do you go to jail for fraud or stealing? Do I like paying for the bandwidth used from all of the unwanted/spam messages and the harddrive/storage space required for those?

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In certain circumstances I think jailing for spam is neccessary.

If the average spammer wastes 3 seconds on average for 1 person, and they spam 10 million people, then that's about 8333 total hours they waste of human time.

Multiply that by a minum wage of 5.25 per hour, and that's $43750 wasted if you save an average our is worth the minimun wage.

$43750 in time wasted for 10,000,000 spam emails (based on these numbers)

I think it's worthy of jail time.
I agree... I waste so much time every fucking day deleting and reporting spam.

My time is money, and their stupid fucking scrambled word emails with retarded titles and mixed up letters equate to internet littering and garbage.

Not to mention the porn spam that winds up in underage kids mail boxes.

Imagine out in the real world, if people distributed flyers advertising porn and penis pills all over car windshields in a mall parking lot.

Don't you think the authorities would come after them if they could? Yes, and they would get in trouble.
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Since when are people getting paid minimum* wage to read e-mails? Wasting time, yes.. But they're wasting time by being online anyway.. Spam could actually bring them something to do
Maybe they have a job online??

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about time to put some law and order for spammers. paying for the crime is not enough to eradicate this non-sense way of promoting a product. for me, im getting close to 300 spams per day. enough is enough
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I agree... I waste so much time every fucking day deleting and reporting spam.

My time is money, and their stupid fucking scrambled word emails with retarded titles and mixed up letters equate to internet littering and garbage.

Not to mention the porn spam that winds up in underage kids mail boxes.

Imagine out in the real world, if people distributed flyers advertising porn and penis pills all over car windshields in a mall parking lot.

Don't you think the authorities would come after them if they could? Yes, and they would get in trouble.
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but junk mail in your residential mailbox is OK

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Spam cop says...

1. It's not free.

2. You dont get 140 mails a day.

3. No porn.

4. No missleading headlines.

5. Professional hahahahahars, because it most sell.

6. You can say NO to junk in your mailbox.


Are you just another dumb face?

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Here's a list of who all need to go to jail:
- porn spammers who spam children
- people who provide free hardcore content to minors
- people who use adware/spyware that can't be uninstalled
- militant anti-spammers who physically threaten spammers
- people who have tools to filter email at their disposal and don't use them (I use Netscape mail's Junkmail Filter and recieve maybe 8-10 spams per day (not counting the lists I know that I may have opted into (damn my passion for online gaming sites ;-))
- people who spend more time trying to report spammers than actually spend on working to make their own money
- people who don't send traffic to Evil Genius Cash
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If they can't be a responsible mailer - they shouldn't be allowed
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What do you think about that beatch???
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1. It's not free.

2. You dont get 140 mails a day.

3. No porn.

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5. Professional hahahahahars, because it most sell.

6. You can say NO to junk in your mailbox.


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Old 04-13-2004, 10:31 AM   #49
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Here's a list of who all need to go to jail:
- porn spammers who spam children
- people who provide free hardcore content to minors
- people who use adware/spyware that can't be uninstalled
- militant anti-spammers who physically threaten spammers
- people who have tools to filter email at their disposal and don't use them (I use Netscape mail's Junkmail Filter and recieve maybe 8-10 spams per day (not counting the lists I know that I may have opted into (damn my passion for online gaming sites ;-))
- people who spend more time trying to report spammers than actually spend on working to make their own money
- people who don't send traffic to Evil Genius Cash
I agree, this world is going to end in 80, 70, 60, 45 years!

Serious, we need to wake up... people think more about themself than ever before. People is un-happy and people hate more than ever before.

What is right and wrong on the Internet
deserve it's own LAW-BOOK.

Ok, enough for me now...
no more hating spammas

Peace,
maxjohan

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Old 04-13-2004, 10:32 AM   #50
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Originally posted by maxjohan
I agree, this world is going to end in 80, 70, 60, 45 years!

Serious, we need to wake up... people think more about themself than ever before. People is un-happy and people hate more than ever before.

What is right and wrong on the Internet
deserve it's own LAW-BOOK.

Ok, enough for me now...
no more hating spammas

Peace,
maxjohan

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