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Old 04-01-2004, 08:45 AM   #51
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Old 04-01-2004, 08:46 AM   #52
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Isn't that child porn? I thought that was illegal.

What sick fuck would get off on that shit anyway?
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Old 04-01-2004, 08:51 AM   #53
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Old 04-01-2004, 09:39 AM   #54
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Your fuckin 100% sick for posting that crap - people responsible for shooting shit like that that want locking up
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Old 04-01-2004, 09:51 AM   #55
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it's implied, whooptie fuckin doo, the REAL crime here is that bitch being so skinny, she really should seek some type of help for that. aside from that there's absolutely nothing wrong with those pictures.

hows implied torture any different from playing doctor? or cops and robbers? you're not really a cop or a robber, nor is she really being hung, kicked or beaten with a bat

not sayin i agree with, or like that type of porn, but to each their own, who the fuck are YOU to push YOUR morals on anyone else? You idiots sit here and bitch about the crackdown on porn and ash<k>hahahahaha yet you're doing the exact same thing he's doing, pushing YOUR morals and beliefs on everyone else.

don't like it? simple solution don't look.
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Old 04-01-2004, 09:56 AM   #56
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This type of content will attract the scrutiny of the DOJ. Believe it, they are looking at sites every day and are taking down the worst of the "legal but seriously offensive" offenders like scat, beasty, rape etc.

This type of content may sell but its very dangerous in the current climate.
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Old 04-01-2004, 09:56 AM   #57
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Old 04-01-2004, 09:58 AM   #58
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She sure is skinny. That's what strikes me at first glance. Then the violence against her is awful, but you CAN tell it is simulated. I hate to call it porn, because I really don't like to think about someone getting off on watching a women get abused.

BUT it is fantasy material. In Canada it is illegal, but elsewhere, until legal lines are drawn, you really can't start discriminating unless you are sure where your own lines are. There's always someone who will take the censorship farther than you intended.

She needs medical help, but then so do lots of the drug addicts in other photos. I hope she gets the help she needs.

Now go back to watching the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and be glad you can.
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Old 04-01-2004, 10:03 AM   #59
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Damn, not saying there is anything wrong with 'fantasizing' but if you dream of shit like this, then you should be put away.



Its only a matter of time before someone builds enough courage to live out their fantasies


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Old 04-01-2004, 10:08 AM   #60
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Its only a matter of time before someone builds enough courage to live out their fantasies
People do. There is an argument that says if there is another outlet for these fantasies, ie: simulated pictures, then these people will have less desire to go out and commit the acts themselves in a less safe manner than that in which the pictures were created. Better to have them satisfied at home than to have them wandering the streets, trying to create their own 'porn'.
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Old 04-01-2004, 10:14 AM   #61
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Hey if she signed a release form, call her as unhealthy as one of those super sized bbw's, and carry on. Its all just porn.
i would't make money on this, it is fucking disgusting!
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Old 04-01-2004, 10:14 AM   #62
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it isnt the content thats disturbing, people have a right to see what they want as long the model is legal and willing. What is disturbing is that if this girl is anorexic she needs help or she will die and that is sad.
I agree. And that is what probably incites the disgust or repellence that so many seem to feel when seeing images like this.

It is human sympathy (that sometimes lies on a subconcious level) that makes us feel indignant towards the exploitation of certain matters.

Some people have the fantasies of brutally killing and then raping the lifeless body of another. If you 'recreate' this scenario for someone to experience, does that make it acceptable since it is only fake?

If someone with the sincere desire to hurt, maim, or torture another being is reinforced with the attitude that is is accessable and normal, then you can see why some serial rapists/killers may not see that they need help or guidance.

I'm not saying ban all of it as a matter of principal, because individual principals remain to be defined/developed. And of course it does make money, and isn't that what all of you are working for?


Is is okay for you to make bombs that you know are killing innocent people when your government is paying you top dollar to do so? Take your paycheck, go home and fuggada 'bout it, as long as you can feed your family it's okay. But what if someone in your family gets blasted by one of those bombs? Then it affects YOU. Then you have something to say. But no one else cares 'cause it's not them.

I don't think it's as black and white as you would feel better believing it to be.
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Old 04-01-2004, 10:52 AM   #65
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Oh no, I can´t believe it, are there only ill people on this planet ?! Poor girl ! Brutality has nothing to do with erotic or sex. Sometimes I feel so damn helpless when I see such pictures.
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Old 04-01-2004, 11:17 AM   #66
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This is the type of content that puts a stink on this business.

Sadly enough, there are sick fucks who buy this but that doesn't make it ok. There's a huge market for CP too, does it's profitability make it acceptable?

If we don't start keeping each other in check, buy refusing to promote or link to this kind of content, the government will come in and do it for us. And no one wants that.....
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Old 04-01-2004, 11:27 AM   #67
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ARE YOU ALL NEW TO PORN???

this shit isent anything new its been around forever. Yes alot of people may not like it but stop acting shocked when you see it.

Try being shoked on how many people out there get off on shit like that. There wouldnt be a supply without the demand
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Old 04-01-2004, 11:31 AM   #69
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Old 04-01-2004, 11:33 AM   #70
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I don't know what's more troubling. Those pictures of the fact that ******* is more "socially" accepted than this.

Anyway..

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Old 04-01-2004, 12:13 PM   #72
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ARE YOU ALL NEW TO PORN???

this shit isent anything new its been around forever. Yes alot of people may not like it but stop acting shocked when you see it.

Try being shoked on how many people out there get off on shit like that. There wouldnt be a supply without the demand
No, it's not new and, sadly enough, it's not even really shocking. Yes, sick people do get off on it and buy it, but that doesn't make it right.

'Supply and demand' is completely correct, but that doesn't mean that we should be facilitating it's supply by promoting or linking to it.
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Man, that's just wrong. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with people sometimes...
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No, it's not new and, sadly enough, it's not even really shocking. Yes, sick people do get off on it and buy it, but that doesn't make it right.

'Supply and demand' is completely correct, but that doesn't mean that we should be facilitating it's supply by promoting or linking to it.
Well that comes down to the morality of each webmaster. But until there is an inforcable law against thet type of content theres not alot one can do. And even then look at cp.. Thats illegal and people do it. One can only run there own company legit and stay away from shit like that to the best of there ablility.
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You ever see the movie "Baise Moi"? What about "New York Ripper"?

What about "American Psycho" for that matter?


You're going to sit there in judgement of this implied fantasy violence when there are movies out there that show explicit gore and death scenes?


Give . me . a . break.
american psycho both one and (surprisingly) two were quite funny.
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Well that comes down to the morality of each webmaster. But until there is an inforcable law against thet type of content theres not alot one can do. And even then look at cp.. Thats illegal and people do it. One can only run there own company legit and stay away from shit like that to the best of there ablility.
I agree 100%. I think it's sad how many people posted in this thread that it was ok because it was profitable.
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The 1973 landmark case, Miller v. California, supra (as modified by two subsequent cases) established a three-pronged test for determining whether a "work" (i.e., material or performance) is obscene and, therefore, unprotected by the First Amendment. To be obscene, a judge and/or a jury must determine:
1. That the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest; AND
2. That the work depicts or describes in a patently offensive way, as measured by contemporary community standards, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable law; AND
3. That a reasonable person would find that the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political and scientific value.


Therefore- most of you people using popular movie examples are comparing apples to oranges. A gory movie is not judged obscene, because the offensive scene is only one part of a collective work.

This photoset however, is entirely comprised of images that lack serious literary, artistic, political and scientific value.
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I did not test search engine "link" access to sub-pages.

They should rate their site with <a href="http://www.icra.org" target="_blank" >ICRA.org</A> at least!

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The 1973 landmark case, Miller v. California, supra (as modified by two subsequent cases) established a three-pronged test for determining whether a "work" (i.e., material or performance) is obscene and, therefore, unprotected by the First Amendment. To be obscene, a judge and/or a jury must determine:
1. That the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest; AND
2. That the work depicts or describes in a patently offensive way, as measured by contemporary community standards, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable law; AND
3. That a reasonable person would find that the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political and scientific value.


Therefore- most of you people using popular movie examples are comparing apples to oranges. A gory movie is not judged obscene, because the offensive scene is only one part of a collective work.

This photoset however, is entirely comprised of images that lack serious literary, artistic, political and scientific value.
so christian bale, the directors and producers of american psycho (or any other movie of equal shock and gore) can all claim artistic, political and scientific value with the murder scenes? interesting.

i guess there is artistic, political and scientific value in a freddy vs jason movie or even a movie such as 21 grams?

i dont agree with that pic and i think those who get off to that type of stuff should be shot BUT who are you, me, any of us here or the govt to judge and make a decision on what we should view? what happen to freedom of speech, freedom of expression?

the hypocritial comments i see in this post amazes me. you can shoot girls shoving 14 inch dildos in their asses or getting a facial from 45 guys; even better yet, you can promote those sites who buy the content from producers who shoot said content YET it is wrong to photograph a woman in the position she was photographed in. are you kidding me with this?

what you, I or the person in another state may not like or agree with may very well not be the opinion of the person that is in that position being photographed and it is very well not the opinion of the person viewing said content. who the hell are we to impose our opinions on others and deem it the law. christ, being in the adult business one would think eyes would be more wide open and things would be more understood.

i have found quite the opposite. i see more people on their soapboxes when the soapbox should be kicked out from underneath. YOU ARE PORN PRODUCER OR PROMOTER AND THIS IS WHAT IS PAYING YOUR DAY TO DAY LIVING...dont preach and expect someone to respect that preaching cause you cannot have it both ways.

who are you, i or anyone to decide if that photo lacks value in any venue? we arent anyone therefore all we are doing is imposing our opinion (of which we have a right to) and opinions mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.
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Balloon fetish in absolutely no way has anything to do with children. If you question this for one moment, then perhaps you'd better find a new program to push. I understand though that you are just using the idea as a misguided example ;-)

The reason that I am horrified by those pictures is because people are profiting from the idea of abuse against women.
This is something that happens far too often, and the last thing that porn needs is to be associated with it.

Yes, these pictures are porn to someone. Somebody out there is spanking to them. But would you really feel good about yourself for helping that guy get his kicks? Do you really want to run the risk of giving him ideas? Yup- it's fantasy, some really sick fucker's fantasy. And he doesn't know that it's staged.

You guys all jumped all over meatholes, who I notice is back in business. Does this industry really want to support this and be associated with it? Just what sort of message is this content sending out about all of us?
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http://www.totalcatfights.com ? they advertise here regularly

why, because its fantasy and implied is it not?

I have never protected meatholes

I simply voice my opinion in regards to threads like this.

I have DVD after DVD of girls being raped, beaten and killed in movies, yet a PICTURE of INSINUATED hanging is so wrong?

You must just not see where I am coming from.

There is violence against women in so many movies to argue over a gallery of some insinuated pictures is somewhat silly to me, considering the vast library of both books and movies I have both read, watched on this subject.

I have read books on gore and the history of all of this.

Just because you dont like it does not necessarily give you the capability to deny it.

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The scenes are clearly faked and thus only disgust me because of what they say about some of the males of our species. Otherwise I can't even get energized because they show the degradation of the girl involved: the vast majority of porn does that. Our customers may kid themselves they only want to look at pictures of naked women, but their choice of material makes it clear that servility and degradation are vital ingredients for many, even for the majority.

I recognize that within the arenas of all kinds of extreme tastes lurk people who one day will step outside fantasy. If I could be convinced that they would be stopped if the material which appeals to them were banned, I would say to hell with some of our freedoms. No-one should ever lose their lives or suffer horribly just so the rest of us can see stuff like this.

But most of the monsters in our society are born damaged or triggered by events in everyday life. Pictures like these are just an uncomfortable reminder that they are out there somewhere.
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Old 04-02-2004, 05:03 AM   #92
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that girl is disgustingly skinny. eeeeeewwwwww the hip bones.
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