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Old 03-28-2004, 07:50 AM   #1
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Christian Pornographers?

Apart from the guy here who calls himself Jesus Christ does anyone consider themselves Christian? Is it possible to be a good devoted Christian and sell porn over the internet.

I really don't think the two mix. Anyone disagree?
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Old 03-28-2004, 07:51 AM   #2
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didn't work out for busty-amateurs and I wouldn't say - Jesus Christ - was a christian, not by a long shot
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Apart from the guy here who calls himself Jesus Christ does anyone consider themselves Christian? Is it possible to be a good devoted Christian and sell porn over the internet.

I really don't think the two mix. Anyone disagree?
Why would the 2 not "mix?" You're applying your beliefs to theirs.

Someone can be a "Christian," and not necessarily subscribe to the exact beliefs in the bible that was clearly written by men with motives.

There are here on this board muslims, jews, christians, atheists, agnostics, buddhists the list goes on.
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busty amateurs was a sad loss.

there must be someone who still goes to church and prays every night? people are capable of reading anything into the bible.
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Why would the 2 not "mix?" You're applying your beliefs to theirs.

Someone can be a "Christian," and not necessarily subscribe to the exact beliefs in the bible that was clearly written by men with motives.

There are here on this board muslims, jews, christians, atheists, agnostics, buddhists the list goes on.
i said christian. is filming people fucking and placing it on the internet not sinning in a christian sense? this must be immoral to all christians.
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busty amateurs was a sad loss.

there must be someone who still goes to church and prays every night? people are capable of reading anything into the bible.
sitting in a church makes you a christian about as much as sitting in a garage makes you a car.
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I am a devoted Christian and yes it does work out
do you tell people at your church what you do. (i assume you stick hardcore porn on webpages)
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i said christian. is filming people fucking and placing it on the internet not sinning in a christian sense? this must be immoral to all christians.
Yeah no shit you said Christian...I even quoted it in my response...try reading it.

Once again what defines a Christian? Your definitions based on what a Bible written by men defines it as?

That's exactly the definition you are trying to apply...try opening your mind.
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Why would the 2 not "mix?" You're applying your beliefs to theirs.

Someone can be a "Christian," and not necessarily subscribe to the exact beliefs in the bible that was clearly written by men with motives.

There are here on this board muslims, jews, christians, atheists, agnostics, buddhists the list goes on.
Don't forget us pagans!
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There are here on this board muslims, jews, christians, atheists, agnostics, buddhists the list goes on.
you started mentioning religions that are not christian. jews arent christians.

so you are saying that there is no issue being a pornographer and a christian? is this a good thing for a christian to do in the service of god?
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you started mentioning religions that are not christian. jews arent christians.

so you are saying that there is no issue being a pornographer and a christian? is this a good thing for a christian to do in the service of god?
I am mentioning religions in conjunction with Christianity...do you have that much difficulty comprehending what is being written.

I made my response about Christians and then let you know that pretty much all religions are represented here as well as "christianity."

Once again read my fucking posts....you are trying to apply what you think Christianity is and should be....don't try to define people's beliefs open your mind.
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you started mentioning religions that are not christian. jews arent christians.

so you are saying that there is no issue being a pornographer and a christian? is this a good thing for a christian to do in the service of god?

i believe in God. i believe that jesus died for my sins. who are you to judge me?
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I am mentioning religions in conjunction with Christianity...do you have that much difficulty comprehending what is being written.

I made my response about Christians and then let you know that pretty much all religions are represented here as well as "christianity."

Once again read my fucking posts....you are trying to apply what you think Christianity is and should be....don't try to define people's beliefs open your mind.
so christianity is simply whatever you want it to be? i thought it was a reasonably well defined set of beliefs.
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i believe in God. i believe that jesus died for my sins. who are you to judge me?
i am montel.

montel, is this on?
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so christianity is simply whatever you want it to be? i thought it was a reasonably well defined set of beliefs.
The Christianity you refer to is well defined for sheep.

So I will bow out of this ignorance by translating my last message into something you will understand.

Baah. Baah baah baah. Baah baah baah baah baah.

m' baah?
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The Christianity you refer to is well defined for sheep.

So I will bow out of this ignorance by translating my last message into something you will understand.

Baah. Baah baah baah. Baah baah baah baah baah.

m' baah?
Ok, jesus does refer to his followers as his flock in the bible. That is very appropriate. You've read the bible?
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couldn't have said it better

Church has nothing to do with Christianity, Christianity is the belief that Jesus has died for our sins and thus we are saved by him.

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@Montel: what he means here is that God is the only one who can judge us and you are in no position to do this.

I think Eros is making an excellent point coz you are defining Christianity into a small 1x1 box where there is nothing outside the box.
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no one cannot break commandments every day for profit and consider themselves christian.

anyone subscribing to "chriastian" beliefs claim to live the life of christ.

christ was no pornographer and no matter how people twist it, and as relaxed as the keyboard theologians are here, one cannot be christiand and push porn.

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no one cannot break commandments every day for profit and consider themselves christian.

anyone subscribing to "chriastian" beliefs claim to live the life of christ.

christ was no pornographer and no matter how people twist it, and as relaxed as the keyboard theologians are here, one cannot be christiand and push porn.

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Yeah no shit you said Christian...I even quoted it in my response...try reading it.

Once again what defines a Christian? Your definitions based on what a Bible written by men defines it as?

That's exactly the definition you are trying to apply...try opening your mind.
don't be dense man... fornication is a sin in Christianity, no two ways about it.

unless you're one of those xtians who don't believe in the bible, which makes you an atheist.
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no one cannot break commandments every day for profit and consider themselves christian.

anyone subscribing to "chriastian" beliefs claim to live the life of christ.

christ was no pornographer and no matter how people twist it, and as relaxed as the keyboard theologians are here, one cannot be christiand and push porn.

period.

its as simple as that

To use the bible..the only commandment christ said to live by was..."do unto others as you would have them do unto you."..to further expand upon that he also said go and sin no more.

But once again the bible was written by man...men who decided what sin is/was.
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don't be dense man... fornication is a sin in Christianity, no two ways about it.

unless you're one of those xtians who don't believe in the bible, which makes you an atheist.
Don't be dense? LOL dude you're the one being dense.

I know a bunch of Christians who look upon the bible as what it is..something that was written by man...and is at most a collection of stories that are metaphors on how to live your life...and believe God's judgment to be something entirely different.
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To use the bible..the only commandment christ said to live by was..."do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
No it's not. Read your Bible.
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Don't be dense? LOL dude you're the one being dense.

I know a bunch of Christians who look upon the bible as what it is..something that was written by man...and is at most a collection of stories that are metaphors on how to live your life...and believe God's judgment to be something entirely different.
dude if you're a xtian the Bible is divinely inspired and is the direct word and commandment of Gawd. If you don't believe it's divinely inspired then it has no more relevance than LOTR.
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I couldn't have put it better myself!
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dude if you're a xtian the Bible is divinely inspired and is the direct word and commandment of Gawd. If you don't believe it's divinely inspired then it has no more relevance than LOTR.
And the Bible has gone through many changes and many translations, books have been added and dropped...read about the apocrypha.

inspired is one thing...but written by is another..and it was written by man.
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I tried actually going to church and working in the industry. I found it too conflicting so now I just don't go to church. Damn Pasters always want to know your business. I could only skirt around the question so far before they knew something was up and I wasn't comfortable with the same question over and over.
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i said christian. is filming people fucking and placing it on the internet not sinning in a christian sense? this must be immoral to all christians.
Not all webmasters do that. Some of us simply put up ad pages/sites and direct traffic that will be hitting the adult paysites eventually anyway.


If a profit can be made off directing traffic, I don't think god has a problem with it.
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Yes you can follow christian principles and produce porn, there is no conflict. To be a christian it's not necessary to ever had read the bible, despite they 2000 year old hype. In fact I encourage all christians to stop reading those children stories and even stop attending church and focus on the important stuff.
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And the Bible has gone through many changes and many translations, books have been added and dropped...read about the apocrypha.

inspired is one thing...but written by is another..and it was written by man.
I know about the Apocrypha, you special ed student, I'm reading 'Lost Christianities' right now. And I agree it was written by man and is full of shit, but I'm NOT a christian. If you want to be a christian you have to follow the Bible and you have to believe it's divinely inspired, otherwise you're just some vaguely spiritual person, but you're not a christian.

and when they say inspired they don't mean like he gave them the idea. They mean that every syllable in that book comes directly from God and is set to the page by man. The book is infallible, if it's not the whole basis for the religion falls apart. And if you don't follow the book religiously you are NOT a christian according to christian theology.

no way you know about the Apocrypha and can't grasp this simple fact.

One more thing: almost all the books in the Apocrypha are even MORE anti-woman and anti-sex than the books in the official canon. Most of them disapproved of sex even in marriage.
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Yes you can follow christian principles and produce porn, there is no conflict. To be a christian it's not necessary to ever had read the bible, despite they 2000 year old hype. In fact I encourage all christians to stop reading those children stories and even stop attending church and focus on the important stuff.
LOL I love how such "open minded" individuals can narrowly define the scope of people's beliefs.
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If you want to be a christian you have to follow the Bible and you have to believe it's divinely inspired, otherwise you're just some vaguely spiritual person, but you're not a christian.
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Thanks for setting the rules for mankind...if you could please now define exactly what it means to be a deomocrat and republican for me it would be greatly appreciated.
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so christianity is simply whatever you want it to be? i thought it was a reasonably well defined set of beliefs.
It is. People bend religion around themselves and try to justify it.
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It is. People bend religion around themselves and try to justify it.
Please. The definition you are both referring to is a direct result of corrupt church officials even some pre-dating Christ whose only interest was manipulating humanity to further their greed and lust for power. This is exactly what Jesus was fighting, and looks like the fight continues..
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Jesus predated Christianity. Jesus was a Jew.

The Christian church didn't get going until well after his death.

And *I* would never want to be associated with a religion that has such an attrocious history.

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Thanks for setting the rules for mankind...if you could please now define exactly what it means to be a deomocrat and republican for me it would be greatly appreciated.
listen you fucknut, you can't just go around saying you're this or that when there are very specific requirements to be this or that. You can't say you're a Muslim if you don't believe in the infallibility of Allah, you can't say you're a Marine if you never wore the uniform, and you can't say you're a xtian if you don't follow the Bible.

You're describing new agers, not xtians.
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Old 03-28-2004, 11:31 AM   #45
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Please. The definition you are both referring to is a direct result of corrupt church officials even some pre-dating Christ whose only interest was manipulating humanity to further their greed and lust for power. This is exactly what Jesus was fighting, and looks like the fight continues..
what, you knew Jeebus personally?

the only record we have of Jesus is what's in the Bible and the Apocrypha, and if you don't believe in that Jesus you don't believe in ANY Jesus. You can't seperate the man from the book.
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I believe that knowing and following the basic precepts of being a decent human being (as set forth in the bible) is more important than obsessing over the book itself or religiously attending church. Some interpret the words too literally, while others interpret too abstractly.


It is arguments like what is on this thread that is the reason why I keep details of my personal beliefs and faith private.


Some over-educated dipshit with a head full of book-learnin' isn't enough to shake my spiritual platform. Not by a good measure. I say believe what you believe, and shaddap and respect what others choose to believe, and the world would be a much happier place where we can all live, love, and pay for porn.
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listen you fucknut, you can't just go around saying you're this or that when there are very specific requirements to be this or that. You can't say you're a Muslim if you don't believe in the infallibility of Allah, you can't say you're a Marine if you never wore the uniform, and you can't say you're a xtian if you don't follow the Bible.

You're describing new agers, not xtians.
You are wrong about the christian part but I don't think there's any changing your mind, can't we just agree to disagree without insults? After all this is not a new fight, there are many subsects of christianity around the world, precisely because people don't always agree on what it means to be a christian.
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listen you fucknut, you can't just go around saying you're this or that when there are very specific requirements to be this or that. You can't say you're a Muslim if you don't believe in the infallibility of Allah, you can't say you're a Marine if you never wore the uniform, and you can't say you're a xtian if you don't follow the Bible.

You're describing new agers, not xtians.
LOL now there are specific requirements to be a Christian?

Tell that to the many denominations/sects out there...I guess they didn't get the memo.
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what, you knew Jeebus personally?

the only record we have of Jesus is what's in the Bible and the Apocrypha, and if you don't believe in that Jesus you don't believe in ANY Jesus. You can't seperate the man from the book.
Your opinion on this, however wrong, has been noted. Thanks for your contribution.
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I believe that knowing and following the basic precepts of being a decent human being (as set forth in the bible) is more important than obsessing over the book itself or religiously attending church. Some interpret the words too literally, while others interpret too abstractly.


It is arguments like what is on this thread that is the reason why I keep details of my personal beliefs and faith private.


Some over-educated dipshit with a head full of book-learnin' isn't enough to shake my spiritual platform. Not by a good measure. I say believe what you believe, and shaddap and respect what others choose to believe, and the world would be a much happier place where we can all live, love, and pay for porn.
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