Today's Lesson: Upselling and Maximizing Revenue - GoFuckYourself.com

p1mpdogg · 03-19-2004, 11:24 AM

Okay folks. You all know how to signup for a sponsor, put up galleries or load up your TGP with hosted galleries. You know how to setup an AVS and Freesite as well as a Linklist. Basically, you know how to sell porn.
The reason you're reading this is because you would like some Tips and Tricks on how you can take traffic that is not necessarily going to buy your porn (or your specific niche), and try to get it to buy into other products.

I'm going to give you a real life example of the most common upsell type. But you would never think of it this way:
A Grocery Store. Think about it. You're walking down the isle and see a new product or something you have never tried before. So you put it in your buggy. OR you pick up a product you would not have otherwise, simply because the price is $1.99 down from $3.49.

As you can see a common task in mainstream utilizes upsells. Every company in the world does the exact same.

So why has it taken the adult webmaster SO LONG to catch up? Some of us have been shaking our heads wondering the exact same thing. But no one has the answer to that question.
It's time that adult webmasters from TGP to paysite owners start upselling products to surfers. And I'm going to show you some very basic ways to do it.

First off: You never know what your surfer is looking for. They may come in on a blind click from a Teen niche to your Teen site. But in reality they really want some tranny content. Bottom line is they may not even know it yet.
The best way to approach this sort of surfer market is to at least offer it to them. Make an "alternate product" table. Link to some sites "GirlFucksGuy: Women sticks it to the men". And why not, you may have women surfers stumble across your site. "BackDoorTwinks: Gay Men get it on" - you may have some bi curious surfers.

Get creative, and be diverse! Remember that we're not just selling porn. Try selling Cigarettes. You may find that surfers are easily persuaded into purchasing discounted Tobacco online. You don't know until you try!
The most important thing to remember is that you will not LOSE sales by diversifying. You will only pick up your revenue.

Can't sell Cigs? Okay how about selling Penis Pills?
Better question: Why not put up a 4 word text link for BOTH products and see what happens? Qualify the clicks and send it to the sponsor. You may only be able to send a small amount of volume- but you may make a sale out of it. A FREE sale. Something you would not have gotten otherwise.

Scenario 1: Jose visits your Teen TGP from a skim click from another Teen TGP. But when he hits your site he decides that he is tired of looking at solo girls. He wants to see some Hardcore sex. But your site doesn't have any Hardcore- so Jose closes your site and goes back to Google to search.

Scenario 2: Michael visits your MILF AVS and decides to join. During the surfing he notices that he can enter his email address and get free access to Asian pictures. He's always wanted to join an Asian site, so he enters his email address to join.

Scenario 3: Herbert just finished beating off in your members area to his favorite pornstar. He has to go clean up. As soon as he gets back, he sees a popup in the members area that says "Tired of beating off with your small dick? Make it bigger!". He is turned on by the Money back guarantee. So he clicks and purchases a 3 month supply.

Scenario 2 and 3 both just sold a product, while the same old Joe Webmaster sold nothing. Why? 2 + 3 upsold to the surfer. Pretty damn easy and pretty damn profitable!

You've read enough to see that upselling is the easiest way to keep your surfers clicking your links and buying your products. By NOT adding diversity to your sites you are LITERALLY throwing away traffic- as the surfer closes out your site and never comes back. Why simply toss away traffic that you can sell to? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
I don't think that anyone would be opposed to a 10% raise in pay for putting up a couple of links.

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Top 3 Epic Upsells:
1. Epic Mail
2. Epic Cams (NEW!!!)
3. Online Smoke City

Signup to Epic Cash today and see what all these idiots are screaming about: http://www.epiccash.com

bigdog · 03-19-2004, 11:45 AM

when is epiccash going to pay $1 per email?

TheJimmy · 03-19-2004, 11:48 AM

I like this side of you better trey...

keep pushing out the good schtuff mang...

doornx · 03-19-2004, 11:58 AM

good stuff indeed..everybody knows it but in the end it's "too much work" to get things up

Axeman · 03-19-2004, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigdog
when is epiccash going to pay $1 per email?

great question!

- Brent

AZN 4 Lyfe · 03-19-2004, 12:02 PM

pimpdog ain't this smart.
he hires someone to do it, or steal it somewhere.
period.

DarkJedi · 03-19-2004, 12:02 PM

i like scenario #3

SetTheWorldonFire · 03-19-2004, 12:05 PM

nice tip

Reak · 03-19-2004, 12:06 PM

whats up with the new epiccams program?

i cant find any linking code in the webmasterarea.

TheSwed · 03-19-2004, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reak
whats up with the new epiccams program?

i cant find any linking code in the webmasterarea.

Yepp..I have looking for this links to...where to find them?

Strife · 03-19-2004, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigdog
when is epiccash going to pay $1 per email?

dunefield · 03-19-2004, 12:29 PM

great info...

DrGuile · 03-19-2004, 12:31 PM

upsell to us and diversify your revenue

http://www.privatefeeds.com

BradM · 03-19-2004, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrGuile
upsell to us and diversify your revenue

http://www.privatefeeds.com

Yes, actually. This spam belongs here.

BradM · 03-19-2004, 01:13 PM

Don't get left out. Read!

p1mpdogg · 03-19-2004, 01:14 PM

$1 email soon.. couple weeks.

epiccams link codes will be available by middle of next week...

DrewKole · 03-19-2004, 01:14 PM

Best post this week, and the best post so far in Trey's history. =)

The Other Steve · 03-19-2004, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrewKole
Best post this week, and the best post so far in Trey's history. =)

Agreed - and whether he wrote it himself or got someone else to write it for him doesn't matter.

The fact is that advice is golden.

jayeff · 03-19-2004, 02:51 PM

Good post: you may not be all bad after all ;)

Makes you wonder why more sponsors don't put an effort into this area. If the cliché about 20% earning 80% of the money is true, the main potential for growth is among the 80% who haven't got it right yet. Good way to build loyalty too.

SykkBoy · 03-19-2004, 03:01 PM

Great advice Trey!

a lot of paysite owners could take lessons in upsells as well and they wouldn't be AS nervous about bottomlines and tempted to switch on the shave...

mindoza · 03-19-2004, 03:03 PM

Great advise!!!!!!!!!!!!...
I am coming from a total mainstream business(production facility) Our big thing was one stop shopping so we sold things we did not produce but we new our customers would need..cause if they look for something else they might find that the other company sells the same thing you do plus what they were looking for You just LOST the customer

Jer · 03-19-2004, 03:11 PM

Nice text, BradM!

Shoehorn! · 03-19-2004, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheJimmy
I like this side of you better trey...

keep pushing out the good schtuff mang...

Yeah, great post man.

03-19-2004, 03:21 PM

I made 300$ today upselling EpicCash stuff

GO PIMPDOGG!!!

BradM · 03-19-2004, 03:44 PM

"Hey surfer... I just payed bandwidth to have you visit.. but I don't feel like selling to you. You wanted Tranny but here is BBW. Go away now."

Never do this!

bdjuf: WOAH a true success case? I thought this Epic thing was juat a huge hype??

BradM · 03-19-2004, 05:40 PM

bump for pre-drunk friday night crowd.

VeriSexy · 03-19-2004, 05:54 PM

Very good post Pimp, must have took allot of time

Looking forward to more post like this

Good job

ChristianSoccerMom · 03-19-2004, 07:02 PM

This is insanity!!!! SEX TOYS?!
What if my unsupervised children were to come accross one of your SICK sites?

BradM · 03-20-2004, 03:35 AM

Baersupplier · 03-20-2004, 07:06 AM

A great thing that appeals to MANY MANY surfers is Adult Toys and Novelties. If you sign up with me you will earn 30% on all sales. And its as simple as adding a 2 line code to your website to place a banner. Why would yo unot try it? There is no minimum for payout. Im a nubie and Ive made just under 2000 dollars since febuary 26th just by adding the toy banners to my sites. Which I would have made nothing off of otherwise. And just to make sure I sont steal traffic from myself, I type target="_blank" in the href url so it opens a seperate page and leaves the one they were on so they can go back to it without hitting the back button... it makes sence, never steal traffic from yourself.

BradM · 03-20-2004, 02:46 PM

Nice shameless plug baer.

BradM · 03-21-2004, 04:52 AM

03-21-2004, 07:50 AM

Not bad

jimmyf · 03-21-2004, 08:08 AM

this is old, when do I get the next lesson

richmedia · 03-22-2004, 03:18 AM

p1mpdogg, better teach us how to be banned anywhere! ;-)
Congrats, you already banned on our and GreenGuy resources.

BradM · 03-22-2004, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
this is old, when do I get the next lesson

What you want a lesson on?

Darren · 03-22-2004, 03:24 AM

Its sooo true, jsut putting on the bottomo of a gallery "our pornstars use www.prosolutionpills.com" can net you a $50-$100 sale

good advice.

Pun · 03-22-2004, 03:38 AM

Great info. Like someone said earlier, it's a bit of time and work adding upsells to pages but the rewards are worth the effort.

BradM · 03-27-2004, 06:46 PM

Ok someone said this was old and they wanted a new lesson.
What you want an article on?

Candice · 03-27-2004, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheJimmy
I like this side of you better trey...

keep pushing out the good schtuff mang...

No kidding Jimmy, can you believe it? People can change!

03-19-2004, 11:24 AM	#1
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	Today's Lesson: Upselling and Maximizing Revenue Okay folks. You all know how to signup for a sponsor, put up galleries or load up your TGP with hosted galleries. You know how to setup an AVS and Freesite as well as a Linklist. Basically, you know how to sell porn. The reason you're reading this is because you would like some Tips and Tricks on how you can take traffic that is not necessarily going to buy your porn (or your specific niche), and try to get it to buy into other products. I'm going to give you a real life example of the most common upsell type. But you would never think of it this way: A Grocery Store. Think about it. You're walking down the isle and see a new product or something you have never tried before. So you put it in your buggy. OR you pick up a product you would not have otherwise, simply because the price is $1.99 down from $3.49. As you can see a common task in mainstream utilizes upsells. Every company in the world does the exact same. So why has it taken the adult webmaster SO LONG to catch up? Some of us have been shaking our heads wondering the exact same thing. But no one has the answer to that question. It's time that adult webmasters from TGP to paysite owners start upselling products to surfers. And I'm going to show you some very basic ways to do it. First off: You never know what your surfer is looking for. They may come in on a blind click from a Teen niche to your Teen site. But in reality they really want some tranny content. Bottom line is they may not even know it yet. The best way to approach this sort of surfer market is to at least offer it to them. Make an "alternate product" table. Link to some sites "GirlFucksGuy: Women sticks it to the men". And why not, you may have women surfers stumble across your site. "BackDoorTwinks: Gay Men get it on" - you may have some bi curious surfers. Get creative, and be diverse! Remember that we're not just selling porn. Try selling Cigarettes. You may find that surfers are easily persuaded into purchasing discounted Tobacco online. You don't know until you try! The most important thing to remember is that you will not LOSE sales by diversifying. You will only pick up your revenue. Can't sell Cigs? Okay how about selling Penis Pills? Better question: Why not put up a 4 word text link for BOTH products and see what happens? Qualify the clicks and send it to the sponsor. You may only be able to send a small amount of volume- but you may make a sale out of it. A FREE sale. Something you would not have gotten otherwise. Scenario 1: Jose visits your Teen TGP from a skim click from another Teen TGP. But when he hits your site he decides that he is tired of looking at solo girls. He wants to see some Hardcore sex. But your site doesn't have any Hardcore- so Jose closes your site and goes back to Google to search. Scenario 2: Michael visits your MILF AVS and decides to join. During the surfing he notices that he can enter his email address and get free access to Asian pictures. He's always wanted to join an Asian site, so he enters his email address to join. Scenario 3: Herbert just finished beating off in your members area to his favorite pornstar. He has to go clean up. As soon as he gets back, he sees a popup in the members area that says "Tired of beating off with your small dick? Make it bigger!". He is turned on by the Money back guarantee. So he clicks and purchases a 3 month supply. Scenario 2 and 3 both just sold a product, while the same old Joe Webmaster sold nothing. Why? 2 + 3 upsold to the surfer. Pretty damn easy and pretty damn profitable! You've read enough to see that upselling is the easiest way to keep your surfers clicking your links and buying your products. By NOT adding diversity to your sites you are LITERALLY throwing away traffic- as the surfer closes out your site and never comes back. Why simply toss away traffic that you can sell to? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I don't think that anyone would be opposed to a 10% raise in pay for putting up a couple of links. ----------------------------------- The number ONE upseller right now is Epic Mail. These remote boxes are bringing in staggering signup numbers and putting coin in your pocket. Online Smoke City is also converting under 1:100 which is GREAT! You can take advantage of both of these upsell opportunities inside of Epic Cash. Top 3 Epic Upsells: 1. Epic Mail 2. Epic Cams (NEW!!!) 3. Online Smoke City Signup to Epic Cash today and see what all these idiots are screaming about: http://www.epiccash.com __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

03-19-2004, 11:58 AM	#4
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03-19-2004, 12:05 PM	#8
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03-19-2004, 12:29 PM	#12
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03-19-2004, 12:31 PM	#13
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03-19-2004, 11:45 AM	#2
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	when is epiccash going to pay $1 per email?

03-19-2004, 11:48 AM	#3
TheJimmy ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,747	I like this side of you better trey... keep pushing out the good schtuff mang... __________________ Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

03-19-2004, 12:02 PM	#6
AZN 4 Lyfe So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 974	pimpdog ain't this smart. he hires someone to do it, or steal it somewhere. period.

03-19-2004, 12:02 PM	#7
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	i like scenario #3

03-19-2004, 12:06 PM	#9
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	whats up with the new epiccams program? i cant find any linking code in the webmasterarea.

03-19-2004, 01:13 PM	#15
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Don't get left out. Read!

03-19-2004, 01:14 PM	#16
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	$1 email soon.. couple weeks. epiccams link codes will be available by middle of next week... __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

03-19-2004, 01:14 PM	#17
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Best post this week, and the best post so far in Trey's history. =)

03-19-2004, 02:51 PM	#19
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	Good post: you may not be all bad after all ;) Makes you wonder why more sponsors don't put an effort into this area. If the cliché about 20% earning 80% of the money is true, the main potential for growth is among the 80% who haven't got it right yet. Good way to build loyalty too.

03-19-2004, 03:01 PM	#20
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	Great advice Trey! a lot of paysite owners could take lessons in upsells as well and they wouldn't be AS nervous about bottomlines and tempted to switch on the shave... __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

03-19-2004, 03:03 PM	#21
mindoza Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,625	Great advise!!!!!!!!!!!!... I am coming from a total mainstream business(production facility) Our big thing was one stop shopping so we sold things we did not produce but we new our customers would need..cause if they look for something else they might find that the other company sells the same thing you do plus what they were looking for You just LOST the customer __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-19-2004, 03:11 PM	#22
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	Nice text, BradM!

03-19-2004, 03:21 PM	#24
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	I made 300$ today upselling EpicCash stuff GO PIMPDOGG!!!

03-19-2004, 03:44 PM	#25
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	"Hey surfer... I just payed bandwidth to have you visit.. but I don't feel like selling to you. You wanted Tranny but here is BBW. Go away now." Never do this! bdjuf: WOAH a true success case? I thought this Epic thing was juat a huge hype??

03-19-2004, 05:40 PM	#26
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	bump for pre-drunk friday night crowd.

03-19-2004, 05:54 PM	#27
VeriSexy Join The Royal Family Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 25,463	Very good post Pimp, must have took allot of time Looking forward to more post like this Good job __________________ Looking for a KICK ASS TEEN SPONSOR? Check out ROYAL CASH - THE KING OF TEEN! Incredible webmaster tools FHGs, Morphing Blog and RSS Feeds, Embedded FLV & WMV Videos. With TOP RATIO Sites like TeenStarsOnly.com - Earn $$ with our New Site & Bonus Payouts!! ATMovs.com \| iTeenVideo.com \| TeenSexMovs.com \| TeenSexMania.com

03-19-2004, 07:02 PM	#28
ChristianSoccerMom Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 11	This is insanity!!!! SEX TOYS?! What if my unsupervised children were to come accross one of your SICK sites? __________________ Belive in Jesus!

03-20-2004, 03:35 AM	#29
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397

03-20-2004, 07:06 AM	#30
Baersupplier Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 217	A great thing that appeals to MANY MANY surfers is Adult Toys and Novelties. If you sign up with me you will earn 30% on all sales. And its as simple as adding a 2 line code to your website to place a banner. Why would yo unot try it? There is no minimum for payout. Im a nubie and Ive made just under 2000 dollars since febuary 26th just by adding the toy banners to my sites. Which I would have made nothing off of otherwise. And just to make sure I sont steal traffic from myself, I type target="_blank" in the href url so it opens a seperate page and leaves the one they were on so they can go back to it without hitting the back button... it makes sence, never steal traffic from yourself.

03-20-2004, 02:46 PM	#31
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Nice shameless plug baer.

03-21-2004, 04:52 AM	#32
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397

03-21-2004, 08:08 AM	#34
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03-22-2004, 03:18 AM	#35
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03-22-2004, 03:24 AM	#37
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03-22-2004, 03:38 AM	#38
Pun Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 379	Great info. Like someone said earlier, it's a bit of time and work adding upsells to pages but the rewards are worth the effort. __________________ TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic ICQ: 18771941

03-27-2004, 06:46 PM	#39
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Ok someone said this was old and they wanted a new lesson. What you want an article on?