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BigFrog · 03-27-2004, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by tootie

Marijuana only. And the judge recently denied the guy bail.

Here is a study about the effects of marijuana on driving and other functions:

http://www.drugabuse.gov/NIDA_Notes/...Marijuana.html

"In a laboratory study at NIDA's Addiction Research Center in Baltimore that controlled for alcohol's confounding effect, Dr. Heishman tested marijuana's effects on the functional components of driving. Study subjects smoked a marijuana cigarette, waited 10 minutes, then smoked another cigarette. Both cigarettes contained either 0, 1.8, or 3.6 percent THC. Twenty minutes after smoking the cigarettes, the subjects were given a standard sobriety test similar to a roadside sobriety test. The test showed that marijuana significantly impaired their ability to stand on one leg for 30 seconds or touch their finger to their nose. As the dose of THC increased, the subjects swayed more, raised their arms, and had to put their feet down in an attempt to maintain their balance. Subjects also committed 2.5 times more errors when they attempted to touch their nose with their finger.

The data from these laboratory studies show that marijuana impairs balance and coordination - functional components important to driving - in a dose-related way, said Dr. Heishman. These effects may be related to reported marijuana-induced impairment of automobile driving, he stated."

It may not be concrete, studies rarely are. But it does show that marijuana can have negative effects that could effect driving ability.

there was a study done in england that showed the exact opposite.
go figure.

detoxed · 03-27-2004, 04:27 PM

Holy shit! I'm reading a document I found on Google intended for parents to teach their kids about drugs. They are LYING to the fucking parents about marijuana.

"Yes it is addictive"
"Yes it has long term effects"
"No its not a medicine"

cluck · 03-27-2004, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by tootie

Marijuana only. And the judge recently denied the guy bail.

Here is a study about the effects of marijuana on driving and other functions:

http://www.drugabuse.gov/NIDA_Notes/...Marijuana.html

"In a laboratory study at NIDA's Addiction Research Center in Baltimore that controlled for alcohol's confounding effect, Dr. Heishman tested marijuana's effects on the functional components of driving. Study subjects smoked a marijuana cigarette, waited 10 minutes, then smoked another cigarette. Both cigarettes contained either 0, 1.8, or 3.6 percent THC. Twenty minutes after smoking the cigarettes, the subjects were given a standard sobriety test similar to a roadside sobriety test. The test showed that marijuana significantly impaired their ability to stand on one leg for 30 seconds or touch their finger to their nose. As the dose of THC increased, the subjects swayed more, raised their arms, and had to put their feet down in an attempt to maintain their balance. Subjects also committed 2.5 times more errors when they attempted to touch their nose with their finger.

The data from these laboratory studies show that marijuana impairs balance and coordination - functional components important to driving - in a dose-related way, said Dr. Heishman. These effects may be related to reported marijuana-induced impairment of automobile driving, he stated."

It may not be concrete, studies rarely are. But it does show that marijuana can have negative effects that could effect driving ability.

It will definetly impair your driving, depending on how much you smoke. The thing that makes it much differnet from alcohol is that drunks tend to get the idea in their head that they aren't drunk. When you're stoned you tend to embrace it.

Whenever I've driven high when I really thought I shouldn't be, I've been alot more cautious than when I drive normally. Chances are I wouldn't cause an accident. The thing is, if something happened, like another car stopped short, I might not react in time.

Driving high isn't "fun" like driving drunk is. When you're high and driving you tend to think about everything that could go wrong and scare yourself into driving like an old woman. Drunk you completely forget there are such things as car accidents.

tootie · 03-27-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed

Can anyone prove that caused the accident?

Can anyone prove that alcohol specifically caused alot of DUI accidents where the driver was barely above the legal limit?

It may not be addictive, but if it impairs ability, then one should NOT drive after using it.

For the record, I'm not against adults using marijuana in their own homes. I AM against minors using it, and anyone driving afterwards.

digifan · 03-27-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
I'm sure you as a parent would want someone to come and let you know if they found your child smoking pot.

I for one think it should be legalized but also think it should be controlled and for adults only...so that issue IMO doesn't even come into play.

That's the resolution solution, I agree 100% though I don't smoke weed. But my motto is live and let live. But only if they don't drive etc.. just like in case of alcohol.

digifan · 03-27-2004, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by tootie

Can anyone prove that alcohol specifically caused alot of DUI accidents where the driver was barely above the legal limit?

It may not be addictive, but if it impairs ability, then one should NOT drive after using it.

For the record, I'm not against adults using marijuana in their own homes. I AM against minors using it, and anyone driving afterwards.

I agree

BigFrog · 03-27-2004, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by tootie

Can anyone prove that alcohol specifically caused alot of DUI accidents where the driver was barely above the legal limit?

It may not be addictive, but if it impairs ability, then one should NOT drive after using it.

For the record, I'm not against adults using marijuana in their own homes. I AM against minors using it, and anyone driving afterwards.

agreed that you shouldnt drive, but what he was pointing out is that when you test positive for mary jane it doesnt mean shit. 30 days is 30 days. if i got pulled over right now i'd test positive, but it wouldnt mean shit because im not high.

Jeff aka NIGHTfall · 03-27-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed

How do you know the driver was high? Marijuana tests can only determine if someone has smoked within 30 days. In 9 states, if you have smoked pot within 30 FUCKING DAYS and are pulled over, YOU GET A DUI. The laws are bullshit.

i hope Florida is not one of them...

in all honesty, i am a street racer, but i am safe when doing it.. i dont just bust a race in the middle of traffic, we be sure its closed off and no way in hell anyone can just pop out, only people in danger are the drivers... we dont allow passengers...

anyways, i also am a user of weed.

if i get pulled over and tested and they found weed in me from 3days ago i can get a DUI ??? thats a bit fucked up.

Brujah · 03-27-2004, 04:33 PM

Take it away from them. Free them from their herbal bondage.

tootie · 03-27-2004, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by BigFrog

agreed that you shouldnt drive, but what he was pointing out is that when you test positive for mary jane it doesnt mean shit. 30 days is 30 days. if i got pulled over right now i'd test positive, but it wouldnt mean shit because im not high.

I understand. But in this particular case the guy told cops he had just smoked a joint a few minutes earlier. I do think it is unfair to go solely on marijuana tests.

cluck · 03-27-2004, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by Jeff aka NIGHTfall

i hope Florida is not one of them...

in all honesty, i am a street racer, but i am safe when doing it.. i dont just bust a race in the middle of traffic, we be sure its closed off and no way in hell anyone can just pop out, only people in danger are the drivers... we dont allow passengers...

anyways, i also am a user of weed.

if i get pulled over and tested and they found weed in me from 3days ago i can get a DUI ??? thats a bit fucked up.

They wouldn't test you though. They'd do physical tests too. Certain things give marijuana intoxication away. For one your eyes don't focus right.

KRL · 03-27-2004, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
Holy shit! I'm reading a document I found on Google intended for parents to teach their kids about drugs. They are LYING to the fucking parents about marijuana.

"Yes it is addictive"
"Yes it has long term effects"
"No its not a medicine"

Propoganda happens a lot from the government and zeolot type anit-whatever groups.

detoxed · 03-27-2004, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Jeff aka NIGHTfall

i hope Florida is not one of them...

in all honesty, i am a street racer, but i am safe when doing it.. i dont just bust a race in the middle of traffic, we be sure its closed off and no way in hell anyone can just pop out, only people in danger are the drivers... we dont allow passengers...

anyways, i also am a user of weed.

if i get pulled over and tested and they found weed in me from 3days ago i can get a DUI ??? thats a bit fucked up.

The US government is currently pushing to take federal highway money away from the states if they dont make this law. That means all 50 states will soon have this.

BeHeadR · 03-27-2004, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by fuzebox
I'd refer them to a better dealer and take a % cut.

ah a REAL business man

Paul · 03-27-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
OK, this will sound really stupid I'm sure. I've never smoked pot. What are the real effects of it on you? I've been around people smoking it and all it seems to do is relax them and make them giddy and funny. Does it mess up your ability to drive a car or anything like that?

You should give it a try

Its not going to do you any harm and as much as people can try to describe it, its one of these things you need to experience for yourself

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Originally posted by BigFrog

1st of all, weed is not a gateway drug.....it doesnt necessarily lead to anything.

it gets you high....you described the effects just fine.

i use to drive all the time when i was smoking.....smoking always made me much more conscienscous of my driving and i felt one with the road.
however, i dont do that anymore just because it isnt right to drive under the influence....whether it's alcohol or weed.

seriously dude, you need to smoke a bowl.

Weed may not be a gateway drug but the circumstances in which you receive the drug can lead you to harder drugs. I really think cannabis should be legalized because it if was legal everyone could grow their own which would cut out the drug dealers. The reason a lot of people end up on harder drugs is because they are introduced to harder drugs through the drug drealers.

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Originally posted by KRL

Well remembering way back in my school days, the older kids would all offer drugs for free at first, just like "free trials", to the younger kids to get them hooked on it and then turn them into "recurring" paid customers.

free trials, recurring customers. hmmm that sounds farmilar

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BigVlad · 03-27-2004, 06:06 PM

let it go

Peaches · 03-27-2004, 06:06 PM

Tell the parents. You would want to know if it was YOUR kid. As it's been said, it should be legal, but even if it were, it wouldn't be legal for teens.

And your 9 year old probably knows more about sex than you do.

Paul · 03-27-2004, 06:06 PM

Fucking Awesome !!!

Was it decriminalized recently in Cali ?

Joetanto · 03-27-2004, 06:08 PM

tell their parents, drugs are mkay

Fletch XXX · 03-27-2004, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Coatsy
Fucking Awesome !!! Was is decriminalized recently in Cali ?

no.

I believe it was done the year i was born.

1976.

check this

"The state of California saved nearly $1 billion dollars from 1976 to 1985 by decriminalizing the personal possession of one ounce of marijuana, according to a study of the state justice department budget.

REFERENCE: M. Aldrich and T. Mikuriya. 1988. Savings in California marijuana law enforcement costs attributable to the Moscone Act of 1976. Journal of Psychoactive Drugs 20: 75-81."

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3381

Paraskass · 03-27-2004, 06:14 PM

I would tell the parents.

Then ask the wife to fuck me in recognition.

Fletch XXX · 03-27-2004, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

"The state of California saved nearly $1 billion dollars from 1976 to 1985

1,000,000,000/ 9 years =111,111,111 a year.

111 million\ 365 = 304,109 a day.

Do you know how many people are given fines in one day in california for pot?

California recorded 60,000 marijuana arrests in 2001, some 48,000 of them minor possession cases.

http://canorml.org/leg/cal_mj_decrimbills_relse.html

thats over 164 people a day in this state.

a lot of money is wasted on posssession charges.

stephanie m. · 03-27-2004, 06:27 PM

Just dont tell them theyre gonna grow tits or something. They did that to us in school, then we didnt belive the bad stuff about other drugs.... now 1/2 the kids from my high school are meth heads, ect.

HS-Trixxxia · 03-27-2004, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

I doubt my kid will ever smoke or do drugs. I've already had long talks about it with him. He's 9 years old and approaching the age when kids start finding out about that stuff.

Actually my biggest fear with him is getting some girl pregnant. My ex-wife was incredibly gorgeous and he got her looks completely. The kid already is the most popular boy in his class with the girls and he's only 9. I already found notes from girls in his book bag. I'm sure the phone will be ringing off the hook when he hits his teens.

Guess I have to have the birds and the bees talk soon too.

Too funny - those are my fears too! He hates smoke (and tells me to quit) I don't think he'll do drugs (I think he'll try it - just not take it) - it's the girls that worry me! They're 10 years old - fully formed and nuts about him. Good thing he confides in me - cuz I'd be crazy with worry!

KRL - don't they teach 'puberty & sex' at his school yet? Mine has questions daily because he only gets the 'boy' version and doesn't know the 'girl' version!

Addition: Tell the parents - perhaps they shouldn't confront the kids immediately but keep an eye out for any changes. I've seen both in my teenage years - the ones who are content with weed and eventually don't do it anymore and the ones that tire of it easily and move on to the next harder drug and so forth until they are addicts with nowhere to turn.

Paul · 03-27-2004, 06:31 PM

Cheers for the info Fletch

pornstar2pac · 03-27-2004, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Just walking the dog and smelled "cannibis" in the air.

Look over and see its the neighbors kids smoking some joints.

Wondering if I should just let it ride. Go have a talk to them. Or let their parents know.

Looked liked some older kids were with them. The neighbors kids are in their mid teens.

I know weed is relatively harmless and a lot of people think it should be legalized, but I've seen a lot of young people start with that then get all fucked up with more hardcore drugs.

I was really surprised to see this, the kids don't look like the type that would even be smoking let alone doing weed.

KRL, please don't waste your time on something that doesn't make you $$$$

Living For Today · 03-27-2004, 06:32 PM

Let it slide.

stocktrader23 · 03-27-2004, 06:41 PM

Every pothead and alcoholic I've ever known has said the same thing....

"I drive fine while I'm drunk/high"

While they may drive like most of the population it's usually nowhere near "fine".

Wilber · 03-27-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Go have a talk to them. Or let their parents know.

Pickup your dog's shit and resist your urge to be a rat.

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I know weed is relatively harmless and a lot of people think it should be
legalized, but I've seen a lot of young people start with that then get all
fucked up with more hardcore drugs.

You got to be playing a roll here...you can't be serious.

angeleyes · 03-27-2004, 06:51 PM

I would stay out of it UNLESS I was good friends with the neighbors. My neighbors who didn't know us very well used to rat me out all of the time for sneaking out of my window or partying at the house down the road... So, what did I do? Started sneaking out more and partying more out of rebelion like most teens. Once I turned 16 and my parents threw their hands in the air and dropped all rules and curfews (other than I MUST stay in school).... My grades went up, I quit skipping, and I didn't party as much. By 11th grade, I was only coming home to sleep in my bed once or twice a week and as long as I called and kept my grades up they didn't care.

Paul · 03-27-2004, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by angeleyes
I would stay out of it UNLESS I was good friends with the neighbors.

I agree and lets face it, parents don't like to hear bad things about their children so unless your good friends with your neighbours its probably best left alone. The parents will find out about it soon enought anyway

stev0 · 03-27-2004, 07:31 PM

Teens are going to smoke pot regardless .... it's not going to hurt them. Let them make up their own mind. If they don't have a chance to experience drugs, then honestly, they're missing out. Drinking is much worse for them than most drugs are, and most kids these days are drinking at 13.

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