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FightThisPatent 03-26-2004 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by savas


this domains are at this time selled, i think



.com domains would get some kind of hold period to register the .xxx equivalent.



Average cost of .XXX domain = $75

Average number of domains per webmaster = 200

The look on webmasters face when congress passes .XXX and no one stood up against it.......... priceless



Fight da Benjamins!

Mr.Fiction 03-26-2004 11:38 PM

The Free Speech Coalition had debates over this issue including some of the best free speech lawyers in the United States and the consensus was that this idea would be very bad for the adult industry.

People who spend their lives fighting for free speech for the adult industry are against it, maybe that tells you something?

Instead of .xxx, they should promote a .kids extension, and only allow content that is safe for kids. Then kids could have their own part of the internet and adults can have free speech.

FightThisPatent 03-26-2004 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Instead of .xxx, they should promote a .kids extension, and only allow content that is safe for kids. Then kids could have their own part of the internet and adults can have free speech.

Blacklisting and Whitelisting have the same problems... whoever owns the gTLD, has the monopoly, and there is regulating it, etc.

The answer already exists today:
http://www.icra.org/_en/label/

Sites that are kid friendly can tag themselves with the ICRA label.

Microsoft IE browser (haven't checked the others) has the option to allow the browser to only view sites that have the ICRA labelling. Click TOOLS, then Content tab, then click Enable button in Content Advisor, and then configure)

Parents can implement this by a few clicks in IE, and their kids wouldn't be seeing the bad stuff.

Technology is available already to help parents. Parents just need to learn how to use the computer as well as the kids.


Fight the Control-Alt-Delete!

Mr.Fiction 03-26-2004 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent

Blacklisting and Whitelisting have the same problems... whoever owns the gTLD, has the monopoly, and there is regulating it, etc.

I agree with you in theory, but let's assume that politicians want to pass some law so that they can pretend they are doing something. Rather than trying to stop them from passing any law, which won't work, we should encourage them to look at the .kids option over the .xxx option.

It's only a matter of time before these right wing anti-free speech types do something to try to censor the internet. If they are going to do something, it would be better if they passed a law creating .kids instead of .xxx.

xenophobic 03-27-2004 12:38 AM

are you under the perception the government proposed the .xxx domain? because they didn't.

believe it or not the United States government doesn't run the world, nor the internet.

The thought that the gTLD .xxx will bring round a porn ban is pretty stupid.

Anyone want to show case history around internet censorship around the creation of a gLTD?
perhaps show why you couldn't buy a domain (apart from requiring POP)
where you were locked into only buying a certain domain before?

It always amazes me as soon as a law/idea is purposed (doesn't even have to be in effect) people run here and start posting about the end of free speech/internet/porn/etc
wtf.

Mr.Fiction 03-27-2004 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
are you under the perception the government proposed the .xxx domain? because they didn't.

Are you under the perception that the current right wing U.S. government has no interest in getting rid of porn? Because Bush and A-s-h-c-r-o-f-t do.

There has already been pressure on the U.S. government from the far right to put all adult content into a specific domain extension (so that it can be filtered out by ISPs.) One reason that it can't happen right now is because there is no adult extension.

The creation of a .xxx extension would be the first step toward the U.S. government censoring the internet for U.S. citizens.

If you don't think that the U.S. government can force U.S. companies to comply with U.S. laws, then you need to go back to law school. :)

This issue has been debated and discussed for years by lawyers and adult webmasters and last year it was a major issue for the Free Speech Coalition.

There are no benefits to the adult industry and many potential problems.

xenophobic 03-27-2004 12:55 AM

I'll ask again, who can enforce this issue if your servers are located in Europe or Canada?

All the russian companies that own porn on .com / .net is the U.S going to remove them off the internet too, perhaps make them comply with U.S law?

tony286 03-27-2004 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
I'll ask again, who can enforce this issue if your servers are located in Europe or Canada?

All the russian companies that own porn on .com / .net is the U.S going to remove them off the internet too, perhaps make them comply with U.S law?


Your right they cant but they can with the companies that are in the USA. It doesnt matter where your servers if you are here in the USA. If it becomes a law and you break the law, you are in trouble no matter where your servers are, if you live in the USA. Do you work for the guy who wants to do this? If you really worked in Adult you would understand the waves for this industry this will cause financially. You seem way too pro for someone who is supposed to work in our industry.

xenophobic 03-27-2004 01:55 AM

pro? I think I said I find the very thought of forcing everyone into using .xxx is groundless, and unlikely to happen.

there are lots of gTLD's very few of them come with any restrictions to their use (edu/mil/gov?) however no one has been forced to register their domain into a specific gTLD before, nor has it been enforceable.

If I do not agree with people who spam graphic images to peoples e-mail box, and use spyware installers on their site am I anti-adult also? do I have to believe in all your ideals to post here?

tony286 03-27-2004 08:40 AM

bump

DR_PHIL 03-27-2004 08:44 AM

i feel bad for the people that have already payed for the new.net ones.

tony286 03-27-2004 11:19 AM

bump

cashman 03-27-2004 12:38 PM

The industry must resist this. It will be discrimination and must be fought.

Alex Xe 03-27-2004 12:38 PM

Nice news.

xenophobic 03-27-2004 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by cashman
The industry must resist this. It will be discrimination and must be fought.
The sponser (www.iffor.org) for .xxx organization is based in Toronto, Canada.

Blame Canada.

cashman 03-27-2004 02:18 PM

bump

besterman 03-27-2004 02:43 PM

The business impact is huge, think about the goodwill that .com names have built up like sex.com, imagine if they have to sell that name or cannot promote adult on it...plus people will still type in .com, only now they won't get to their favorite sites

cashman 03-29-2004 12:25 PM

Overall it will be bad, porno can't be segrigated. That will screw the whole industry.


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