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Old 03-26-2004, 10:14 AM   #1
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White House Asks 9/11 Panel to Meet Rice

WASHINGTON (AP) - "Trying to blunt allegations the Bush administration mishandled terror threats before Sept. 11, the White House is offering to let President Bush's top national security aide meet privately for a second time with a federal panel investigating the terrorist attacks.

The White House said in a letter late Thursday to the independent Sept. 11 commission that such a session would allow Condoleezza Rice to clear up "a number of mischaracterizations" of her statements and positions.

Rice, who has spoken frequently and written about the administration's pre- and post-Sept. 11 strategy, still would not testify publicly before the panel, as the members and many relatives of victims of the 2001 terrorist attacks want.

In his letter, White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales wrote that it was important that presidential advisers such as Rice "not be compelled to testify publicly before congressional bodies such as the (Sept. 11) commission."


The White House move follows highly publicized testimony to the commission this week by Richard Clarke, a counterterrorism adviser to the past three presidents and author of a new book critical of Bush. Clarke, who left his White House post 13 months ago, told the commission on Wednesday that the administration accorded a lower priority to combatting the al-Qaida terror organization when it came to power than the outgoing Clinton administration had shown. He also said the invasion of Iraq undermined the war on terror.

With Clarke striking at the heart of Bush's re-election strategy, the White House has mounted a furious counterattack, accusing the former adviser of seeking to rewrite history to sell copies of his tell-all book.

"He needs to get his story straight," Rice said as the White House identified Clarke as the senior official who had praised Bush's anti-terrorism efforts in an anonymous briefing for reporters in 2002.

Bush defended his handling of the war on terror during a trip to New Hampshire on Thursday, without mentioning Clarke by name.

"Had I known that the enemy was going to use airplanes to strike America, to attack us, I would have used every resource, every asset, every power of this government to protect the American people," the president said.

Public trust in the president's judgment was relatively high after the terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington and spiked up again during the Iraq war. But the percentage of people who trust Bush has fallen below 50 percent in some polls since.

Republican and Democratic members of the Sept. 11 commission have urged the administration to abandon its refusal to allow Rice to testify publicly. Some GOP members of Congress, speaking on condition of anonymity, said they also believed Rice should appear, at least in part to rebut Clarke.

Rice had said Wednesday she was willing to return for another private session. She met privately with panelists for about four hours on Feb. 7.

Her refusal to appear publicly, while at the same time granting a host of nationally broadcast interviews, has produced harsh criticism.

"The American public wants answers to these questions. She ought to testify. She ought to testify under oath," Terry McAuliffe, the Democratic Party chairman, said Friday on ABC's "Good Morning America."

"This isn't about Condi Rice or executive privilege," he said. "This is about getting to the bottom of some very serious questions about what went on around Sept. 11 and why we didn't do a better job of preparing ourselves."

McAuliffe's Republican counterpart, Ed Gillespie, countered on the same show that "for a White House staffer to appear before a legislative branch body, that's different than talking to reporters. The media are not a branch of government founded under the Constitution. This is a long-standing practice, not just in the Bush administration."

The White House said Rice wanted to rebut statements made in this week's public testimony before the panel. In particular, Gonzales said she wanted the chance to argue that she was not inaccurate when she wrote in a Washington Post opinion piece this week that administration plans before Sept. 11 called for military options to strike al-Qaida and the Taliban rulers in Afghanistan.

Gonzales also said statements that other national security advisers have testified before Congress in open session were wrong. Previous testimony from national security advisers have either been in closed session or involved potential criminal wrongdoing, making those situations markedly different from the current one, Gonzales said. In fact, the more common occurrence is for national security advisers to decline to appear publicly, he said.

The commission also has been denied the opportunity to question Bush and Cheney in open session. The White House has agreed to allow those interviews to occur only privately, and only with two commissioners."






Each night before I go to bed I pray I have a new president next year.
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Old 03-26-2004, 10:16 AM   #2
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Each night before I go to bed I pray I have a new president next year.
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Old 03-26-2004, 10:19 AM   #3
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Each night before I go to bed I pray I have a new president next year.

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You will. Everything is starting to come out into the open, after the whole truth is told only the real nutcases like 12clicks will be able to convince themselves that they're still right. At this point even bringing out Bin Laden isn't going to save him. The only question is, take him out early like Nixon or wait and let everyone boot his corrupt ass out like Daddy Bush.
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Once Cheney has to disclose his "energy board" plan, they're toast. These hearings are just the tip of the iceberg. Something tells me the American people don't like having 9/11 exploited to make Exxon richer.
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i love the cockiness of this dumb bitch Condi Rice.

she doesnt have to answer to the american people or testify under oath but she can carry her fucking ass on TV on early morning shows and preach to the far right.

she wont testify under oath but she will lie on tv.

what a bitch, who does she think she is?
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i love the cockiness of this dumb bitch Condi Rice.

she doesnt have to answer to the american people or testify under oath but she can carry her fucking ass on TV on early morning shows and preach to the far right.

she wont testify under oath but she will lie on tv.

what a bitch, who does she think she is?
She is a VIP...not a drugged out...sawed off Nancy boy...like yourself. BTW what color do you paint your fingernails now...runt?
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The government will be corrupt no matter if one of the two major parties are in power. Another thing even though she is evil as hell I would fuck Condi Rice!.
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She is a VIP...not a drugged out...sawed off Nancy boy...like yourself. BTW what color do you paint your fingernails now...runt?
Right, tough macho guys like you with huge balls vote Bush right? Voting to make people think your penis isn't tiny is a great idea.
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Its going to be a very close race. I just hope they don't have another voting booth fuckup seen like the suspicious one in Florida.
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i love the cockiness of this dumb bitch Condi Rice.

she doesnt have to answer to the american people or testify under oath but she can carry her fucking ass on TV on early morning shows and preach to the far right.

she wont testify under oath but she will lie on tv.

what a bitch, who does she think she is?

Actually, if you bothered to check, there is a constitutional issue involving conflict of interests and seperation of powers involved here.......

.....but you are too busy lapping up the same old biased politcal rhetoric to actually find this stuff out.
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She is a VIP...not a drugged out...sawed off Nancy boy...like yourself. BTW what color do you paint your fingernails now...runt?
Not everyone is into the same things as you.

Come back with an intelligent answer to his post and stop playing the fool. Even though it is your favourite character.
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Actually, if you bothered to check, there is a constitutional issue involving conflict of interests and seperation of powers involved here.......

.....but you are too busy lapping up the same old biased politcal rhetoric to actually find this stuff out.
i dont care about legal bullshit.

there is nothing making her tell the truth.

you can call me whatever, she is not being held to tell the truth, that in itself is injustice, i dont really care how you spell it.
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i dont care about legal bullshit.

there is nothing making her tell the truth.

you can call me whatever, she is not being held to tell the truth, that in itself is injustice, i dont really care how you spell it.
Well then that injustice has been held for EVERY administration for the last 45 years......because the same legal, and security issues have applied to each national security advisor.....

....and by the way, the democrats know it too.....this is just playing politics for the suckers in the bleachers...sorry.
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Well then that injustice has been held for EVERY administration for the last 45 years......because the same legal, and security issues have applied to each national security advisor.....

....and by the way, the democrats know it too.....this is just playing politics for the suckers in the bleachers...sorry.
the funny thing is you assumed i did not know about them not having to answer to legislative branch, hey i watch the news too

I am simply stating she like others act like they are above the people and do not havwe to answer to the people...

my opinion got you that fire3d up?

geez.. i dont even care to argue just stating my point on this bitch and now i got trolls.

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the funny thing is you assumed i did not know about them not having to answer to legislative branch, hey i watch the news too

I am simply stating she like others act like they are above the people and do not havwe to answer to the people...

my opinion got you that fire3d up?

geez.. i dont even care to argue just stating my point on this bitch and now i got trolls.

Didn't mean to come off that harsh man!

I guess the oportunistic approach that Richard Clark is taking is just SO obvious and SO self-serving, that the whole thing is sticking in my craw.

My Bad! Peace?
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I guess the oportunistic approach that Richard Clark is taking is just SO obvious and SO self-serving, that the whole thing is sticking in my craw.
i never stated anything about Clarkew, just about Condi being a C U NN T

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Right, tough macho guys like you with huge balls vote Bush right? Voting to make people think your penis isn't tiny is a great idea.
In answer to the question...wrong.
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Come back with an intelligent answer to his post and stop playing the fool. Even though it is your favourite character.
He is a druggy...he at one point in time had his fingernails painted...and he is a runt. BTW...I do not take orders from cluess nasty toothed old men...so feel free to reserve giving orders to your content wife.
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Oh I don't know.... about HALF the people in the US like him just fine, the other half don't. Give or take a few percent depending on how the wind blows.

A LOT of things can happen between now and November...
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She is a VIP...not a drugged out...sawed off Nancy boy...like yourself. BTW what color do you paint your fingernails now...runt?

how soon they forget......

Why didn't Hillary testify in the WhiteWater scandle - why were so many records "lost" and then "found" a year later?

Get off your soap box - they are all pretty much the same.

We've had a LOT worse than either Bush.
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Hey we were founded on it. You to can be corrupt in a few easy steps.
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As much as everyone hates bush, it really saddens me to think that he will be in office another 4years. His strongest candidate is Kerry and bush is exploiting the fact that he's half jewish. I dont think america is ready for a jewish president =(
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The USA is like Mother Teresa compared to Canada......

We pay like 70% in taxes because of the the fucking waste and courruption. The current government is getting its ass fucked by howitzer rounds right now because of a shit load of scandels that have been uncovered involving billions of dollars that was basically "laundered".

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lol, this is a joke right? I know most governments are corrupt, but very few top the current state of the US.
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lol, this is a joke right? I know most governments are corrupt, but very few top the current state of the US.

Wow! You don't get around much do you?

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We pay like 70% in taxes because of the the fucking waste and courruption. The current government is getting its ass fucked by howitzer rounds right now because of a shit load of scandels that have been uncovered involving billions of dollars that was basically "laundered".

God Bless America.......
Again, is this a joke? No one wants to see the end of the Liberals more than me, but comparing our hundred mil sponsorship scandal to the Iraq scam, and many many others, is not much of a comparison. It's just that the people here care about issues, so we make a huge deal about it when our Government screws us. When it happens in the US 50% of Americans bury their heads in the sand and start singing the national anthem.

P.S. If you pay 70% in taxes, you need a better CGA.
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Again, is this a joke? No one wants to see the end of the Liberals more than me, but comparing our hundred mil sponsorship scandal to the Iraq scam, and many many others, is not much of a comparison. It's just that the people here care about issues, so we make a huge deal about it when our Government screws us. When it happens in the US 50% of Americans bury their heads in the sand and start singing the national anthem.

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What Iraq scam?
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lol, this is a joke right? I know most governments are corrupt, but very few top the current state of the US.
Are you really tihs clueless or is this just "spin". If you truely believe the US is one of the most corrupt states you should try reading up on other governments sometime. I know its "hip" to bash GWB now but if you want it to be effective you can't make a fool of yourself while doing it.
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Are you really tihs clueless or is this just "spin". If you truely believe the US is one of the most corrupt states you should try reading up on other governments sometime. I know its "hip" to bash GWB now but if you want it to be effective you can't make a fool of yourself while doing it.
Ah...but he can and does...daily.
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lol, this is a joke right? I know most governments are corrupt, but very few top the current state of the US.

No man... he's right. When you get down to it there are very few governments that give a damn for their people at all. And no one is fighting to leave the US for a better life in Mexico or Cuba are they?
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how soon they forget......

Why didn't Hillary testify in the WhiteWater scandle - why were so many records "lost" and then "found" a year later?

Get off your soap box - they are all pretty much the same.

We've had a LOT worse than either Bush.
my dad told me about this bumper sticker he saw today.

it said,

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my dad told me about this bumper sticker he saw today.

it said,

No One Died When Clinton Lied

how bout them apples

then it's ok. so it's ok for the President to lie about everyting else? - Pretty weak man.

we've lost less than 600 people since this war started. As bad as that is... it's really a very very small number. Do a little comparing of the number of people lost in wars.... More people probably die choaking on fish bones than that in a year.


But hey... with as few reasons to actually want Kerry as President, opposed to the anyone but Bush logic, grab anything you can hold on to.
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Isn't it funny, when someone says, we've had worse than Bush, without mentioning any names, that the next thing you know someone feels they have to defend Clinton....


This is going to a FUN election on the ol boards.....
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then it's ok. so it's ok for the President to lie about everyting else? - Pretty weak man.

we've lost less than 600 people since this war started. As bad as that is... it's really a very very small number. Do a little comparing of the number of people lost in wars.... More people probably die choaking on fish bones than that in a year.


But hey... with as few reasons to actually want Kerry as President, opposed to the anyone but Bush logic, grab anything you can hold on to.
Actually since the Afghanistan and Iraq invasion far more Americans have been killed by Americans in America than those Americans that have been killed in combat zones.
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then it's ok. so it's ok for the President to lie about everyting else? - Pretty weak man.

we've lost less than 600 people since this war started. As bad as that is... it's really a very very small number. Do a little comparing of the number of people lost in wars.... More people probably die choaking on fish bones than that in a year.


But hey... with as few reasons to actually want Kerry as President, opposed to the anyone but Bush logic, grab anything you can hold on to.
everything else?
i'd rather have a president who lies about a blowjob than one who lies about reasons for going to war.
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Isn't it funny, when someone says, we've had worse than Bush, without mentioning any names, that the next thing you know someone feels they have to defend Clinton....


This is going to a FUN election on the ol boards.....
are you retarded? i was responding to your statement about a clinton scandal.
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Clarke simply told the truth. He's worked under many presidents, and under all of them he lied to the media.

The fact is, the government did a shitty job preventing terror. The Bush administration formed a committee, but did not have one meeting.

Clinton slacked off on terror, but they warned the Bush administration about al-qaeda. The bush administration didn't do jack shit either.

By invading Iraq and focusing our military on that, we're leaving ourselves open to attack again. We took over afghanistan, big deal. After that we turn a blind eye and blow our defense budget on a country that wasn't even posing an immediate threat.
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OK - show me the proof where Bush told a deliberate lie in order to trick everyone into thinking Sadam was a bad guy, made him do all the bad stuff and start a war. Don't leave out how attacking Kuwait and the thousands his own people he killed is Bush's fault too.


There were five reasons we went to war, the WMD were only one of them anyway......
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