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Old 03-26-2004, 11:42 AM   #1
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John Kerry is on acid.

10 million new jobs within 4 years
halve the deficit within 4 years
NO dependence on middle east oil within 10 years



I want some of the batch HES on.




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Old 03-26-2004, 11:43 AM   #2
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what a delusional little idiot


oh yeah ALL WITHOUT raising middle class taxes, and CUTTING corporate rates.

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He just said the most idiotic thing of the campaign, also the thing that will make at least another $100 million in donations for Bush.

He wants US companies who have subsidiaries in foreign countries to start paying taxes when those products coming from overseas are sold back in the US market.

Keep in mind that a logical approach would be to give tax break on certain industries if they kept their jobs in the US.

If Kerry's plan is adopted, all HP or GM or GE has to do is export let's say from the Phillipines to Mexico and then into the US through NAFTA.

There is no easy solution to the outsourcing problem, and alienating US corporations will not help Kerry
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He just said the most idiotic thing of the campaign, also the thing that will make at least another $100 million in donations for Bush.

He wants US companies who have subsidiaries in foreign countries to start paying taxes when those products coming from overseas are sold back in the US market.

Keep in mind that a logical approach would be to give tax break on certain industries if they kept their jobs in the US.

If Kerry's plan is adopted, all HP or GM or GE has to do is export let's say from the Phillipines to Mexico and then into the US through NAFTA.

There is no easy solution to the outsourcing problem, and alienating US corporations will not help Kerry


hes the fucking lunatic fringe of the DNC. no way he gets elected.
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Old 03-26-2004, 11:55 AM   #7
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hes the fucking lunatic fringe of the DNC. no way he gets elected.
Well, we better get ready for the porn tsar from the next Bush administration
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not sure why, but when I see kerry on TV he resembles a hundred year old Jay Leno.
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Old 03-26-2004, 12:01 PM   #9
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Democrats are great at raising the employment rate. The problem is that all those employed people still can't pay their bills. I'll continue to vote Libertarian and hope they become a competitive party some day...
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Jesse ventura in his book "ain't got time to bleed" discussed at length the problems with trying to get elected if you're not part of either the democratic/republican parties.
he is completely against big government, and the government being involved in your life.
personally having an ex-navy seal, vietnam veteran and a self made man becoming the president couldn't be any worse than having some fossil who hid from a war, and then got himself elected into a cushy government position.

Jesse for 2008!
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One thing you can say about him....

No - wait, two things you can say about Kerry.....

Well, he's changed his mind again...

Well, there is one thing you can say about him....



He's a Politician.
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Jesse ventura in his book "ain't got time to bleed" discussed at length the problems with trying to get elected if you're not part of either the democratic/republican parties.
he is completely against big government, and the government being involved in your life.
personally having an ex-navy seal, vietnam veteran and a self made man becoming the president couldn't be any worse than having some fossil who hid from a war, and then got himself elected into a cushy government position.

Jesse for 2008!
Is he running ? Or wishful thinking on your part ? I think he may have had enough from the last time he was elected
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anybody's better than Bush. I don't approve Kerry much, but he is the best we got so far
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I saw at the induction to the WWF/WWE hall of fame he made a comment that could be taken as meaning he was going to at least try
running for president.

(I can't remember the actual quote, so I won't even try to post it)
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10 million new jobs within 4 years
halve the deficit within 4 years
NO dependence on middle east oil within 10 years



I want some of the batch HES on.



unfortunately, the more he talks the more I cringe........with every flip flop this guy is cutting his chances
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You guys are stuck with two suckers runnin for presidency
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hes the fucking lunatic fringe of the DNC. no way he gets elected.
I think you're the one who's delusional now. No way he doesn't get elected. How many jobs did Clinton create? What was the deficit like under Clinton? Republicans are destroying your country, one day you'll have to open your eyes and face that.
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10 million new jobs within 4 years
halve the deficit within 4 years
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I want some of the batch HES on.



how's 2.5 million new jobs per year (less than 1% of the US population) crazy!? How much new jobs where created under Clinton!?
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how's 2.5 million new jobs per year (less than 1% of the US population) crazy!? How much new jobs where created under Clinton!?
No one knows for sure.

Part time no wage no benefits jobs should not be counted like they were under clinton.

Millions have become self employed in the last 4 years.

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how's 2.5 million new jobs per year (less than 1% of the US population) crazy!? How much new jobs where created under Clinton!?

read this:
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The Facts Show 2.4 Million Jobs Created Under Bush

The media and Democrats keep repeating it over and over: "2.3 million jobs lost" since President Bush took office. His could be the worst job record since before World War II, they claim. One little problem: It's not true.

Not only has there been no net loss of jobs during the Bush administration, there has been a net gain, even with the devastation of 9/11. At least 2.4 million jobs have been created since the president took office, 2 million of those in 2003. The gains more than offset the losses.

While Democrats continue to beat their election-year drums about outsourcing, manufacturing losses, unemployment and slow growth in employment, America's economy has been steadily creating jobs.

At least 366,000 jobs have been created in the last five months, over 100,000 of those in January, White House press secretary Scott McClellan has noted. And though the eight-month recession "officially" ended in November, economic indicators are surprising economists and pointing toward a take-off in the recovery.

The signs:

The 5.6 percent unemployment rate is the lowest in two years and below the average of the 1980s (7.3 percent) and '90s (5.8 percent), and still continues to drop.

The nation's economic output revealed the strongest quarterly growth in 20 years. The data for the fourth quarter of 2003 show that the civilian labor force rose by 333,000, while the number of unemployed in the labor force dropped by 575,000. Even better, the number of so-called discouraged workers declined in December.

Consumer spending grew between 4 percent and 5 percent last year, and real hourly earnings rose 1.5 percent. Real earnings have risen over the last three years.

Exports doubled to 19 percent in the fourth quarter, compared to less than 9 percent in the third.

The number of American workers is at an all-time high of 138.5 million, a level never before attained in U.S. history.

Jobless claims are 10 percent below the average of the last 25 years and still falling. Hiring indices are up, even in manufacturing. Productivity growth is extremely high.

Now the doomsayers are criticizing the validity of the unemployment rate, which at 5.6 percent does not fit their gloomy story. Faulty Counting The problem is the areas of biggest job growth are usually not even being counted at all.

Though 75 percent of jobs are created by small companies, according to the Small Business Administration, this sector's entrepreneurial activity and the jobs it creates are left out by Washington bean counters when calculating official new job numbers. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) does its Payroll Survey by phoning businesses to crunch the number of jobs that have been gained or lost. This is where Democrats grabbed onto their lifeline, the 2.3 million figure. Look only at the Payroll Survey, and there has been a gain of only 522,000 jobs since Bush took office.

But here's the rub. The Household Survey is used to determine the unemployment rate and accounts for those who are self-employed, and small emerging businesses that might be overlooked by the Payroll Survey. But the number of U.S. firms isn't static, and the "fixed list" used by the BLS for phoning established businesses does not reflect new entrepreneurial activity.

People are called at home and asked if they have jobs, or if they are in the market for a job. In contrast to the Payroll Survey, the Household Survey shows that 2.4 million jobs have been created so far during Bush's time in office. As Economy.com writer Haseeb Ahmed recently wrote, "something is amiss in the [Payroll] survey."

Credit Where Credit Is Due

That's not all. When doomsayers, and media spoiling for a fight in an election year, laughed at Bush's prediction of 2.6 million new jobs this year, not everyone was scoffing.

Ahmed, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and others hardly batted an eye. Greenspan said it was "probably feasible" the economy would reach the Bush administration's forecast of adding 2.6 million jobs this year, provided growth continues and the productivity rate slows to more typically levels.

"I don't think it's 'Fantasyland,'" Greenspan said. "I agree with him," said John Ryding, chief market economist at Bear Stearns. "I think that we will create 2.5 million, possibly more, jobs over the balance of the year."

Ahmed is convinced that "the revision patterns of the early-1990s recovery cycle" will be repeated. A total of 1.4 million job gains were revised upward to 2.9 million in the first 21 months after the end of the last recession, just after Bush Sr. was voted out of office.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...5/171833.shtml

If elected, will John Kerry get credit for the jobs created under the Bush administration?
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Read this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Mar26.html

The difference between Bush and Kerry, Kerry understand things... like the economy, business, etc. Bush is a dumb fuck who does whatever Karl Rove and his campaign contributers tell him to.
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Oh, lol, this Jimtheclueless is posting articles saying Bush has created jobs.

I don't even think Rush Limbaugh is stupid enough to believe that. I hadn't realized that Jim had fully forgotten Oldspeak and now only understands Newspeak. I apologize.
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In case anyone else is taking this clown's sources seriously, here are some other headlines from these "credible news sources"

"It's never wrong to be on the side of freedom".
http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson...0403260836.asp

Fake Larry Kind Interview with Bush and Kerry, supposed to be funny I guess.
http://www.nationalreview.com/issue/...0403260837.asp

"Did Richard Clarke Purger himself on this week before the 9/11 commission?
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...6/143826.shtml
umm no

"Clinton refused to let CIA kill Bin Laden"
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...4/102828.shtml
Now this one's true, only the exact opposite.


Thanks for the links nutball, even the satirists can't make up stuff this insane and hilarious.
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We know, anyone with the mental capacity to understand anything more than the 8 minute news cycle would never be stupid enough to still believe the Bush administration about anything.
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I'm starting to suspect that 12clicks watched the commission meetings in full, and that's why he has refrained from making an ass of himself recently. Anyone who watched more than the 5 minutes they edited for TV can't help but have serious doubts about these crooks. Just wait until the Cheney hearing, by the end it's going to turn into a war crimes trial.
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is it me or does he look alot like jay leno?
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not sure why, but when I see kerry on TV he resembles a hundred year old Jay Leno.
glad too see someone else see's that too!
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Read this book by a Republican terrorism expert from the Bush administration:

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More Like a self-serving very ambitious opportunist who was pissed off at being passed over for the cabinet position that he wanted and now wants fame, money, and maybe a postion with the Kerry administration, that he hopes will be elected.
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More Like a self-serving very ambitious opportunist who was pissed off at being passed over for the cabinet position that he wanted and now wants fame, money, and maybe a postion with the Kerry administration, that he hopes will be elected.
I cuncur, you got's it pretty much right on.

I might add Kerry would be a complete moron if he gave him any postion
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I'm starting to suspect that 12clicks watched the commission meetings in full, and that's why he has refrained from making an ass of himself recently. Anyone who watched more than the 5 minutes they edited for TV can't help but have serious doubts about these crooks. Just wait until the Cheney hearing, by the end it's going to turn into a war crimes trial.
I think the dumbed down version that you're getting is confusing you.

when its broken down into little words that you can figure out, the meaning is lost.

There's nothing like a canadian half whit pretending to have a clue.
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If Kerry's plan is adopted, all HP or GM or GE has to do is export let's say from the Phillipines to Mexico and then into the US through NAFTA.
they dont even have to do that. the company I work for has manufacturing facilities in the philippines, where they build up a bunch of sub assemblies, then ship them to the US where the put in 4 screws and put a Made in USA sticker on it.
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Bill Clinton's policies helped create over 10 million jobs during his first term, it is not out of the question that Kerry could do the same.

We need to get Bush out and get a fiscally responsible president back in Washington. Bush believes in borrow and spend, which leads to bigger deficits for your children.

Clinton, the last Democrat in office, was fiscally responsible, Bush is not.

Kerry could not be worse than Bush, and the odds are he will do a lot better.

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Old 03-28-2004, 12:49 AM   #46
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Plain and simple.

Bush is a war criminal.
The only way to prove to the world that American's are good folk is to send that fuck head to Geneva for a war Crimes tribunal!
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