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Paparazzi 03-25-2004 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by Paparazzi
Make it 29.95/month for access to ALL sites...members will stay forever :Graucho
and keep the 3 day trial :2 cents:

just a clarification, the trial would be on the exit from the signup form and NOT on the actual signup page :)

Kimmykim 03-25-2004 08:15 PM

Marketed right to the surfers, I like the idea.

angelsofporn 03-25-2004 08:17 PM

we are actually raising our prices..not the other way

studio 03-25-2004 08:22 PM

Hi Angels of Porn...

Refreshing to see some still have a business sence, instead of a Santa suit....

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http://www.pineapplecash.com

SteveLightspeed 03-25-2004 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by angelsofporn
we are actually raising our prices..not the other way
I don't see this as "lowering prices" -- we already offer 5 sites for 34.95 and 10 sites for 39.95

This would just give more options to the cost-conscious surfer

The less expensive options are effectively RAISING the prices per site

Sly_RJ 03-25-2004 08:25 PM

I would still like to see what happens with trials on an exit from the join page, but other than that I'm very happy that we don't offer trials. The affiliates asked, we answered, and they were right.

SteveLightspeed 03-25-2004 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
I would still like to see what happens with trials on an exit from the join page, but other than that I'm very happy that we don't offer trials. The affiliates asked, we answered, and they were right.
when we moved trials from the main join page to a popup, we saw a 40% increase in revenue overnight.

Sly_RJ 03-25-2004 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by Lightspeed


when we moved trials from the main join page to a popup, we saw a 40% increase in revenue overnight.

No shit? I'm going to set it up on one of my test tours and see how it goes. Now I'm really curious. :)

SteveLightspeed 03-25-2004 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

No shit? I'm going to set it up on one of my test tours and see how it goes. Now I'm really curious. :)

Just make sure not to show the trial AFTER he takes the full join, or you get some PISSED OFF surfers!

nastyking 03-25-2004 09:13 PM

trials on exist

nastyking 03-25-2004 09:14 PM

50 lightspeed trials

cashman 03-25-2004 09:24 PM

If you have affiliates they may not like it, since the conversion will be low.

SteveLightspeed 03-25-2004 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by cashman
If you have affiliates they may not like it, since the conversion will be low.
I think most affiliates are smart enough to realize that conversion ratios aren't as important as per click revenue. But I agree, there is something psycological about saying "1 in 50!" even if its a bunch of low cost trials

LittleMack 03-25-2004 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by Lightspeed
Btw, I failed to mention that they could re-select their sites after each rebill, to add even more to the retention.
I love the concept, gives the surfers more control and they can get a variety instead of just one girl. Great Idea.:thumbsup

Giorgio_Xo 03-25-2004 11:06 PM

Steve! You must have read my thread on Bradshaw's Strictly Biz last week. It is nice to see someone using a similiar idea to the test. Good luck.

SteveLightspeed 03-25-2004 11:38 PM

Since I've never been invited to that forum, I guess we had the same idea around the same time? I've always thought we should operate more like retail, and retail plays lots of pricing games to get customers to buy.

It will be an interesting experiment. Icq me in a few weeks and we can compare notes.

Steve Lightspeed

reynold 03-25-2004 11:49 PM

It will ba heaven on Earth if its true.

NETbilling 03-26-2004 12:08 PM

Good idea to get rid of the trials. However, having multiple charges per month from the same company will increase chargebacks... or will it be one charge to their card each month? Maybe offer a trial upon exit if they do not buy?

Mitch

SteveLightspeed 03-27-2004 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by netbilling
Good idea to get rid of the trials. However, having multiple charges per month from the same company will increase chargebacks... or will it be one charge to their card each month? Maybe offer a trial upon exit if they do not buy?

Mitch

I don't think we would show more than one sale, instead just have multiple price points, and let our own software control access to however many sites they bought access to.

BV 03-27-2004 09:48 AM

We have custom software in place that lets affiliates turn off trials if they want. We also have it where they can select the price of the trial and rebill price. Pretty neat stuff that enables our affiliates to promote our sites how they see fit.

Cheers,
BV

jayeff 03-27-2004 09:57 AM

"Would you like to super-size that" works on several levels: not wanting to be seen as cheap and a basic reluctance to say no are probably stronger than any perception of extra value.
To that extent, the impersonality of the 'net is going to work against you, so stressing the value and variety is going to be more important.

To work this approach best, I would get the first page of the signup done for the site(s) the surfer is expecting and then offer the "supersize" option on a follow-up page. And keep the message simple: "Add 3 more sites of your choice for just $10!" or whatever... it needs to be simple enough to stay an impulse thing.

Give them all the options you mentioned originally, explanations etc., and you might slow some of them down enough to lose the sale completely.

SteveLightspeed 03-27-2004 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by jayeff
"Would you like to super-size that" works on several levels: not wanting to be seen as cheap and a basic reluctance to say no are probably stronger than any perception of extra value.
To that extent, the impersonality of the 'net is going to work against you, so stressing the value and variety is going to be more important.

To work this approach best, I would get the first page of the signup done for the site(s) the surfer is expecting and then offer the "supersize" option on a follow-up page. And keep the message simple: "Add 3 more sites of your choice for just $10!" or whatever... it needs to be simple enough to stay an impulse thing.

Give them all the options you mentioned originally, explanations etc., and you might slow some of them down enough to lose the sale completely.

Well thought out! Thanks for your comments. :thumbsup

Cindyff 03-27-2004 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by Ray
Give trial members limited access. Conversions to full will go up min. 10%.

peace


This is an excellent idea

teomaxxx 03-27-2004 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by Paparazzi
BAD idea. This will just piss them off and cancel right away...
it already work well in other programs (eg.socalcash). About 55/65 percent of trials used to rebill from my traffic

BV 03-27-2004 11:53 AM

Logically thinking, having a huge archive of content available right off the bat AND updating every day will make you look better and more likely to please (rebill) your customer. IMO

Cheers,
BV


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