Disturbing Thought about Taylor Summers Case - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Waters · 03-24-2004, 07:14 PM

When I have done B&D shoots, it was with the models *paraphernalia* that she brought and took away with her.

I have some worries here.

What if I do a B&D shoot with a girl, and she leaves with her stuff, goes to a different guy, who also photgraphs her, kills her, and dumps her in a backdrop. Serious circumstantial evidence against me....

jact · 03-24-2004, 07:17 PM

Just another reason to leave BDSM to the BDSM crowd IMO.

Paul Waters · 03-24-2004, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by jact
Just another reason to leave BDSM to the BDSM crowd IMO.

I *am* in the BDSM crowd....

But those in the scene are much more careful than Taylor seems to have been.

Sticking to working with models in the scene is a pretty good idea.

wyldblyss · 03-24-2004, 07:22 PM

Well, I'm not real up on B&D, but I can tell you that almost nothing goes anywhere without picking up something from where it has been.

So, if she leaves your place and then goes to someone else chances are her paraphenalia would pick up some trace elements from her second shoot...a piece of fiber, skin cells etc. that could help to prove she was somewhere else. Of course, not all investigations are perfect and you always run that chance...but this sort of thing does not happen all the time. You have a better chance of getting hit by a car than for this to happen.

If you are the paranoid type, put in their contract that they have to call you 10 minutes after leaving your location and leave a message on your answering machine stating the date and time and the fact that they did leave the shoot at such and such a time and what location (or direction) they are headed in.

RRACY · 03-24-2004, 07:26 PM

Could someone explain the details of this discussion?

HS-Trixxxia · 03-24-2004, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by wyldblyss
Well, I'm not real up on B&D, but I can tell you that almost nothing goes anywhere without picking up something from where it has been.

So, if she leaves your place and then goes to someone else chances are her paraphenalia would pick up some trace elements from her second shoot...a piece of fiber, skin cells etc. that could help to prove she was somewhere else. Of course, not all investigations are perfect and you always run that chance...but this sort of thing does not happen all the time. You have a better chance of getting hit by a car than for this to happen.

If you are the paranoid type, put in their contract that they have to call you 10 minutes after leaving your location and leave a message on your answering machine stating the date and time and the fact that they did leave the shoot at such and such a time and what location (or direction) they are headed in.

Wow.......good advice.

Good point you bring Paul...make sure you're covered everyway you can.

Didn't they mention in the first news release that she was also to meet with a new boyfriend? Whatever happened to that, or was it something this photographer told the cops or reporter?

DeanCapture · 03-24-2004, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by jact
Just another reason to leave BDSM to the BDSM crowd IMO.

Jact - please contact me. Dean at DeanCapture.com

Thanks,

RRACY · 03-24-2004, 07:46 PM

CNN reported that a suspect was arrested around midnite but hasn't released a name.

TweetyBird · 03-24-2004, 08:14 PM

of course

=^..^= · 03-24-2004, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by jact
Just another reason to leave BDSM to the BDSM crowd IMO.

this has got NOTHING to do with the BDSM crowd

what u think that "straights" cant be killers too?

It doesnt matter what you shoot - Paul has a good point.

You could be filiming a schholgirl lesbian scene for all it matters - and the next guys she shoots with might be gonna do a bikini shoot with her - and she gets killed

niche plays no role in murder

maybe you can INSIST they have a friend escort them
(yea h i know thats a tricky one - a lot o girls want to keep their work secret)
wyldblyss has some good points about DNA/fibres though

maybe form your end - dont work alone
always have another "staff" there
at least you have an alibi

Mr. Marks · 03-24-2004, 08:38 PM

That's possible, but you can say the truth and it will come out soon enough. That just can't be the basis of your arrest or something, you'll be called in for questioning though.

12clicks · 03-24-2004, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by Paul Waters
When I have done B&D shoots, it was with the models *paraphernalia* that she brought and took away with her.

I have some worries here.

What if I do a B&D shoot with a girl, and she leaves with her stuff, goes to a different guy, who also photgraphs her, kills her, and dumps her in a backdrop. Serious circumstantial evidence against me....

dude, building your alibi here won't help you.

Raven · 03-24-2004, 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by RRACY
CNN reported that a suspect was arrested around midnite but hasn't released a name.

http://www.frederickphotodesign.com/...sign/about.asp

http://pennlive.com/newsflash/pa/ind...4057166720.xml

I think I know this guy.

Melvin the Dude · 03-24-2004, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by RRACY
Could someone explain the details of this discussion?

A model was killed by a photographer she had worked with, they found her body earlier this week.

eroswebmaster · 03-24-2004, 09:25 PM

she was stabbed to death the BDSM is only what they will focus on in the media to create drama and gfy type page views ;)

VideoJ · 03-25-2004, 01:27 AM

Two ways to be safe.

Best way is always have your model bring a chaperone, that way you have a witness.

Anotherway is to set up video camera on a tripod in the corner where it can see everything. Record the whole shoot with time stamp turned on. That way you have an independent record of what happened.

dougeetx · 03-25-2004, 01:31 AM

Good point. Kinda scary!

reynold · 03-25-2004, 01:38 AM

Justice will always prevail.

just a punk · 03-25-2004, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by RRACY
Could someone explain the details of this discussion?

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VideoJ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: S. Florida Posts: 750	Two ways to be safe. Best way is always have your model bring a chaperone, that way you have a witness. Anotherway is to set up video camera on a tripod in the corner where it can see everything. Record the whole shoot with time stamp turned on. That way you have an independent record of what happened. __________________ Somebody stole my damn signture...

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wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	Well, I'm not real up on B&D, but I can tell you that almost nothing goes anywhere without picking up something from where it has been. So, if she leaves your place and then goes to someone else chances are her paraphenalia would pick up some trace elements from her second shoot...a piece of fiber, skin cells etc. that could help to prove she was somewhere else. Of course, not all investigations are perfect and you always run that chance...but this sort of thing does not happen all the time. You have a better chance of getting hit by a car than for this to happen. If you are the paranoid type, put in their contract that they have to call you 10 minutes after leaving your location and leave a message on your answering machine stating the date and time and the fact that they did leave the shoot at such and such a time and what location (or direction) they are headed in.

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RRACY Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,393	Could someone explain the details of this discussion?

03-24-2004, 07:46 PM	#8
RRACY Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,393	CNN reported that a suspect was arrested around midnite but hasn't released a name.

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Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	That's possible, but you can say the truth and it will come out soon enough. That just can't be the basis of your arrest or something, you'll be called in for questioning though.

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dougeetx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,163	Good point. Kinda scary! __________________ Coming Soon! A NEW revolution in black adult social networking!

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