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German Police Raid 300 Homes of Anti-Semite Music Swappers
![]() WIESBADEN, Germany - German police swooped on more than 300 homes across the country to smash an Internet ring trading neo-Nazi and racist songs. The federal crime office (BKA) said it had opened probes against 342 suspects in 15 of Germany's 16 states believed to be involved in trading songs online with banned lyrics. In the early-morning raids of 333 apartments, police seized computers and CDs. "Incitement to racial hatred is not a trifle," BKA president Joerg Ziercke said, adding that skinhead music allowed neo-Nazis to make inroads with German youth. "Young people are being targeted and brought into the world of anti-Semitism and hatred of foreigners." The BKA said that after concerts, the Internet was the most important medium for spreading far-right music, particularly via online music swap sites. In 2001, German police staged raids on more than 100 apartments of suspects believed to be trading neo-Nazi music on the Web site Napster (news - web sites) and confiscated computers and disks. ![]() ![]()
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wow so they can target you by the music you listen to?
thats not funny to me. i purchase some very different music myself. not racist or nazi shit but why should that matter? next it will be what web pages you load.
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So much for freedom of expression! The only thing they have achieved is to drive them deeper underground
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what a shithole country
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Wow, cops in gas masks to get ppl who are trading music..
Also the first cop in the pic looks like Kevin Bacon. |
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people need to realize free speech was not set up to protect speech you like...but speech you may be offended by...and we're not just talking about the word fuck on radio.
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Nazis are so 1939.
Racism is stupid, and anyone who can't get over the fact that we now live in a multicultural world , and if you don't like someone - its not your right to take their life, need to grow the fuck up |
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sure it's stupid, I don't defend their beliefs but their rights to them, and their rights to express them however they choose as long as it's within the confines of "real" laws...like no violence/assault etc...but when it comes to the sharing of music/thoughts/ideas fuck that that's bogus repressive bullshit to control the way people think and feel. |
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Obviously Neo-Nazism is a a major issue in Germany. But what if people were listening to this music just to see what is was all about.
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Child porn is also not covered by freedom of speech laws. And it would be a weak excuse to say 'i just wanted to see what its all about'. I think it's a similar issue that is as sensitive.
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hey!!! where am i going to download my music now?
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While one is clearly against the law another is just the way some people think and feel and as long as they keep it to just that..thinking and feeling and no action involved then who are you to decide? And for you as an adult webmaster who can't see the real correlation I find this even more reprehensible. Racism sucks..but you have the right to it if you choose it. |
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i wonder how many of you are black, asian or jewish...
i live in a part of germany where at least about 5% of the people tend to be openly neo-nazis. and i think up to 10 or 15% more think the same way but don't show it. try to walk around here as a black, asian or jewish guy at night, i will not be surprised if you were beaten up by some nazis. it happend several times - for nothing. my personal opinion is that these fuckheads belong to jail. no discussion. ![]() above all that music is so incredible bad that is alone is enough reason to lock them all up. ![]()
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It is sad to see a society that is so unconfident that it needs to ban words because it doesn't trust its own people to make the right decision.
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I don't know. If it was any other country I would be totally against such actions by the police. But then again, I don't see what good it'd do to arrest them, it'll only make them feel oppressed and increase there devotion to the cause.
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I'm surprised in the post above the guy in Germany claims up to 15% of Germany still has Nazi beliefs. That's quite a large number of people if that claim is indeed true. Anyone else here live in Germany? Are the feelings still there to this extent?
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maybe we should all be lobatomized at birth so we dont think for ourselves anymore
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I am from Germany and all what i can tell you is:
!!! THIS COUNTRY SUCKS !!! They hunt you if you listen the wrong music..... They hunt you if you talk something against jews/israel... They hunt you for the freedom of speech You dont hear much such things about the "democratic" System called Germany...it is nothing worth...this country is ruled almost like afghanisthan and the taliban..... If a german webmaster is using an us Porn Sponsor he gets problems....if they found out, that you do so, the come with a whole group of policemen and turn your apartment upside down.. THATS GERMANY.....cool county hm??? |
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No country...I REPEAT NO COUNTRY! should attempt to legislate thought, and free speech..sure some do...and some who think they are free only have varying degrees of freedom. But we are focusing on Germany here...and to arrest people for swapping neo-nazi music is pure fucking crazy. Who cares if you were just checking it out or if you agreed with the content of they lyrics. As long as you don't act out on that racism you should be okay...once you do..then the law should break loose on your ass...but not a second sooner. |
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if you travel to cities like munich, hamburg or berlin it would not be that much. but for example: 2 years ago in hamburg, which is normally a very liberal city, nearly 20% voted for a party which had some very nationalistic thoughts. but it is no german specialty - also france, italy or denmark have up to 20% votes for parties like that
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The people just see, that more and more scumbacks come from the east into germany to make some bullshit, thats all....if you are against something like that, you are already a nazi in germany. In Germany you are for every little mind a nazi...if you dont like sharon..you are a nazi. If you tell that you dont agree with this masses of immigrants..you are a nazi if you tell, that the system of the state is absolute sick...you are a nazi... YOU see what i mean???? |
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No, i would not say 15% have Nazi beliefs. It is true that there is a increasing level of violence against aliens but that has nothing to do with Nazi beliefs. More with typical german stubborness and violent stupidity. Ok, there is also a rational reason: The high rate of violent crimes commited by foreign juveniles. |
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