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Old 03-22-2004, 02:19 PM   #1
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foxcounter

Anyone have problems pulling up foxcounter stats? I've noticed "unable to find database" error quite a few times over past few weeks.
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Old 03-22-2004, 02:20 PM   #2
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yep.. bout time for me to start using paycounter instead
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Old 03-22-2004, 02:50 PM   #3
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I use foxcounter and masterstats.

Masterstats is much better and more consistant. Give them a try, I think you will like them.

www.masterstats.com
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Old 03-22-2004, 03:04 PM   #4
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Old 03-22-2004, 09:43 PM   #5
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Yeah, Foxcounter was down for a couple of days last week and has been giving intermittent database errors ever since. A pity, they used to have pretty good stats. But their button has been getting more and more deceptive over time anyway; I'm ready for a change.
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Old 03-22-2004, 09:55 PM   #6
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Oh yeah, and Looky_Lou? The ToS for masterstats says it can't be used on pornographic sites....

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Old 03-23-2004, 04:08 PM   #7
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I cannot find that in the TOS. Could you please tell me exactly where it is?

Here is a link to the question on thier FAQ. https://www.masterstats.com/faqs.html#1g
It says adult site are fine.

I have been using them on my adult sites for some time now. I know they have two different programs. One for mainstream and one for adult. That way the adult button only links to the adult rankings list.

Here is a link to Master Stats Adult rankings page
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Old 03-24-2004, 12:56 PM   #8
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Hmmm, looky_lou, the FAQ does indeed say "Both mainstream and adult sites can use MasterStats." But apparently nobody told their lawyers, because the Terms & Conditions page says:

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Receipt of Service(s) is conditioned upon the following: [...] (b) Customer does not [...] (3) upload, post, email or otherwise transmit any content that [...] (iv) constitutes pornography....
So I guess you're good to go if your adult content isn't pornography.

Seriously, based on the FAQ I wouldn't worry much; that TOS is one of those boilerplate jobs and the provision in question looks likes it's written for sites like bulleten boards that allow user uploads to the site's server. But since I'm sitting here right now faced with the need to strip busted Fox counters off dozens and dozens of web pages, you can understand why I'd be a little nervous about replacing them with a counter service that says it is uncomfortable with pornography.
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Old 03-24-2004, 01:36 PM   #9
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I have never had them reject a site of mine. They do review each site (not all pages) for inclusion in the top rankings list.

Another nice thing is that you use the same code for all pages within a site. No more new code for each page you want stats on.

Good luck with whatever you go with.
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