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RWF 04-03-2004 04:54 PM

psyko514:

Here we go again, back to the discussion of how much control I actually have on the traffic.

It just happens to be that I run a review site, that made a good review of the site where the chargebacks occured.

So you say that I send shitty traffic?

Comeone give me a break! You never know when an asshole decides to do a chargeback!

psyko514 04-03-2004 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RWF
psyko514:

Here we go again, back to the discussion of how much control I actually have on the traffic.

It just happens to be that I run a review site, that made a good review of the site where the chargebacks occured.

So you say that I send shitty traffic?

Comeone give me a break! You never know when an asshole decides to do a chargeback!

unfortunately, Verotel doesn't see it that way. and they have every right to terminate your account if the traffic you send charges back too often. there's nothing wrong or shady or illegal about that.

as a webmaster, you control the traffic you send and where you send it. you have a responsibility when it comes to choosing where you send the traffic. you said it yourself that the sites you sent it to were small, crummy sites. so the surfers aren't charging back because they're assholes. they're charging back because they were ripped off.

since you chose to send the traffic against your better judgement, verotel holds you responsible. those are their terms and conditions and you agreed to them by signing up for a verotel program.

if you really, really think you have a legal case against them, i strongly suggest you discuss your case with a lawyer instead of continuing to libel them on GFY.

i don't know where you live, but right now, they have a pretty strong case of libel against you. and it's a lot stronger than your fraud/theft allegations.

stev0 04-03-2004 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XxXotic
for kicking someone out who's chargebacks are more then his last 3 positive checks?

yes, i'd kick your ass out too, obviously something isn't right if your chargebacks are greater then the amount you've brought in the last 3 periods

No kidding.. that's alot of chargebacks.

RWF 04-03-2004 05:07 PM

psyko514:

I give up! You have proven countless times that you do NOT have the abillity to read.

1) I NEVER wrote that my account terminated, it's suspended. And they have written that I am not going to get any commision until I send them a check, meaning they will keep (steal) my commision until then.

2) I said that the sites I linked to was small, not piece of shit sites. Small does not mean that they are a scam or crummy. I run a review site, and screen all sites I link to.

3) The chargeback actually came from a site I had reviewed earlier, and had since moved from Verotel to IBill. Unfortunately some chargebacks came from old signups, where members had signed up for long memberships, like 6 and 12 months. So these commisions where high, and so where the chargebacks. And since this site had now moved to a different billing company, I did not have the income from that site anymore, and only had the small Verotel sites with less income. Which explains why my site went in negative.

4) I said I would join a lawsuit, not start one! Geez get some fucking glasses!!!

5) Why am I even wasting time replying to you? Fuck Off Asshole!

psyko514 04-03-2004 05:14 PM


maybe if i make my text bigger, you'll understand it?

- you sent them traffic.
- the traffic you sent charged back.
- they suspended your account.
- they told you cannot process transactions through them while suspended.

if you continue to attempt to process transactions for them, they're not stealing anything from you.

can someone else explain this to him, because i give up.

chupacabra 04-03-2004 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514

maybe if i make my text bigger, you'll understand it?

- you sent them traffic.
- the traffic you sent charged back.
- they suspended your account.
- they told you cannot process transactions through them while suspended.

if you continue to attempt to process transactions for them, they're not stealing anything from you.

can someone else explain this to him, because i give up.

i gave up days ago, friend..

RWF 04-03-2004 05:16 PM

psyko514

Thanks for keeping this thread alive :)

I understand what is going on, but I think the business practice is unacceptable.

RWF 04-03-2004 05:29 PM

Guys I know we have our differences, but can we at least agree on one thing? Which is we do not agree on anything!

And please don't give up, now that the mighty Lensman have disabled searching, I need you guys to disagree with me, to keep the post alive, so I don't have to scroll through countless pages to my beloved Verotel post :)

Have a good evening anyways...Off for some chow and a flick, wish it was a chick though!

psyko514 04-03-2004 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RWF
Guys I know we have our differences, but can we at least agree on one thing? Which is we do not agree on anything!
Don't get me wrong, I <b>somewhat</b> agree with you on the fact that the policy sucks. However, it's <b>far</b> from being theft or even remotely illegal.

RWF 04-03-2004 08:04 PM

psyko514:

Yeah you're right is not exactly theft, or unfortunately not even illegal, but it is definately not the way I would conduct a business.

seven 04-13-2004 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
they have to pay for their offices. they have to pay to furnish their offices. they have to pay for their computers, servers, hosting, domains, software licenses, office supplies, telephones and more......
Nawh.. I have no such expenses so no clue what the expenses behind running businesses are like LOL.
Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
you think a 2% fee would cover all of their expenses and let them turn a profit?
Yep! What I'm saying.. just didn't mean 2% of a $30 transaction that's all :winkwink:


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