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swami · 03-22-2004, 11:48 PM

What can you do legally when a sponsor won't pay?
I have one that owes me approx $8000 some of it since November.

I am running out of patience and they are running out of excuses.
Whats the procedure in the US for chasing debts.Is there a court for this and am I best getting a lawyer to represent me?
Thanks in advance .

chowda · 03-22-2004, 11:51 PM

insite adult will not pay u

Reak · 03-22-2004, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swami
What can you do legally when a sponsor won't pay?
I have one that owes me approx $8000 some of it since November.
I am running out of patience and they are running out of excuses.
Whats the procedure in the US for chasing debts.Is there a court for this and am I best getting a lawyer to represent me?
Thanks in advance .

sponsor name?

eroswebmaster · 03-22-2004, 11:54 PM

more drama?

swami · 03-23-2004, 12:00 AM

At this point in time I would rather not name them.
But that may change soon.

Reak · 03-23-2004, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swami
At this point in time I would rather not name them.
But that may change soon.

shout out the name, we might able to help you

Vitasoy · 03-23-2004, 12:09 AM

Since November? How long are you going to wait?

swami · 03-23-2004, 01:28 AM

I'd prefer no drama as I have been trying to get this resolved civil like.
They are not real well known around GFY so probably there won't be much drama anyway but I was hoping someone has had some experience in pursuing legal action against sponsors.
They seem to be very much avoiding me at the moment even though they had promised to have this resolved today.
But I will definetly flame them big time if I get no satisfaction.

Rorschach · 03-23-2004, 01:31 AM

Call them out, and watch them either slide off into the woodwork, never to be seen again, or scramble to hand over the money whilst making excuses about email and icq errors.

SomeCreep · 03-23-2004, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swami

They seem to be very much avoiding me at the moment even though they had promised to have this resolved today.
But I will definetly flame them big time if I get no satisfaction.

No need to flame them, just post the sponsor name.

MrJackMeHoff · 03-23-2004, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swami
At this point in time I would rather not name them.
But that may change soon.

Post the name or fuck off! WTF!?

Illicit · 03-23-2004, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff

Post the name or fuck off! WTF!?

what he said ^

cluck · 03-23-2004, 01:43 AM

Insite adult ran away.

And whatever sponsor it is probably had something about their right to withhold payment for whatever reason they want in the user agreement.

pornJester · 03-23-2004, 01:43 AM

Give us a name, maybe other people with the same problem will come out of the woodwork.

BigVlad · 03-23-2004, 01:52 AM

At this point in time I would rather not name lawyers.
But that may change soon.

swami · 03-23-2004, 03:23 AM

My Bad.

I should've known better than expect some helpful webmaster advice on GFY.
Its full of Teenage Drama Queens.

hova · 03-23-2004, 03:31 AM

Just give a name, maybe somebody here has some info for you

WiredGuy · 03-23-2004, 03:36 AM

Whats the circumstances that surround this. If they terminated you, was it for fraud, spam, etc? Obviously the sponsors name would be best so we can help see if there's a history of them not paying but at least tell us the reasoning behind it they gave.

WG

swami · 03-23-2004, 03:50 AM

Thanks .
There is no fraud involved.They don't dispute that they owe me the money.They just keep coming up with lots of excuses.
Such as accountant sick,accountant's fault.accountants inept,will lget it fixed up right away ,thankyou for your patience and so on and so on.
The sponsor is Hardcoremoney and I have started a few threads over the last 6 months on their reluctance to pay.

The Other Steve · 03-23-2004, 03:51 AM

Swami

You've got mail

Lifer · 03-23-2004, 04:49 AM

The process in the states is called small claims court.

You don't have to have a lawyer... which is good since a lawyer normally takes 33 - 50% off the top.

You can get the paperwork from a clerk of court in the city you want to sue them.

The court advises them of the suit... and if they don't show up to defend themselves, you win by default.

The question is, what do you win. Simply a court decision.

Thererfore it is better to do one of two three things...

1. Sue in his hometown... so the shit can be tried for what's called contempt of court if he does not abid by the courts decision in your favor.

2. If a lawyer is involved, they normally will be sure to get their money, so they will badger the shit to death if he doesn't pay... plus take him back to court.

3. Sell the debt to a debt collector... but you only get about 10 cents on the dollar. They breaks his legs if he doesn't pay... but you are not responsible.

One other thing... since I assume you are not US... If you win or lose, you are responsible for your own legal fees in the US. Therefore, when you sue the shit, be sure to ask for your legal fees to be reimbursed... or you are shit out of luck.

Hope this helps a little.

Good luck.

swami · 03-23-2004, 05:01 AM

Thanks Lifer.

This the sort of stuff I am after.

Cheers

broke · 03-23-2004, 05:05 AM

This claim is too large for small claims court.

Tekiloved · 03-23-2004, 07:18 AM

uglu fucking spons!

SoundMan · 03-23-2004, 09:01 AM

move on..

kosmic · 03-23-2004, 09:07 AM

debt collection agency or a lawyer.

these guys would rather pay most of the time, than go to court.

WiredGuy · 03-23-2004, 09:14 AM

Since they're not disputing that they owe you the money, I would definitely go with a debt collection agency. First off, you should aggressively send them letters and invoices (3 notices should be enough). If they keep stalling like this, then sell the debt to a collection agency. Include the emails to prove they are aware of the debt and they should be willing to take it for you. But you should expect a good 20-30% fee be taken if they collect (they should only charge you if they're successful).

WG

AaronM · 03-23-2004, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke
This claim is too large for small claims court.

Yep.

swami · 03-23-2004, 12:35 PM

Thanks Everyone.I will give the debt collection agency ago.

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swami Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: vanuatu Posts: 1,989	Thanks . There is no fraud involved.They don't dispute that they owe me the money.They just keep coming up with lots of excuses. Such as accountant sick,accountant's fault.accountants inept,will lget it fixed up right away ,thankyou for your patience and so on and so on. The sponsor is Hardcoremoney and I have started a few threads over the last 6 months on their reluctance to pay.

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Lifer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Working Posts: 871	The process in the states is called small claims court. You don't have to have a lawyer... which is good since a lawyer normally takes 33 - 50% off the top. You can get the paperwork from a clerk of court in the city you want to sue them. The court advises them of the suit... and if they don't show up to defend themselves, you win by default. The question is, what do you win. Simply a court decision. Thererfore it is better to do one of two three things... 1. Sue in his hometown... so the shit can be tried for what's called contempt of court if he does not abid by the courts decision in your favor. 2. If a lawyer is involved, they normally will be sure to get their money, so they will badger the shit to death if he doesn't pay... plus take him back to court. 3. Sell the debt to a debt collector... but you only get about 10 cents on the dollar. They breaks his legs if he doesn't pay... but you are not responsible. One other thing... since I assume you are not US... If you win or lose, you are responsible for your own legal fees in the US. Therefore, when you sue the shit, be sure to ask for your legal fees to be reimbursed... or you are shit out of luck. Hope this helps a little. Good luck. __________________ CCBill Sponsor Programs Get Paid On Time - Everytime!

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swami Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: vanuatu Posts: 1,989	Thanks Everyone.I will give the debt collection agency ago.