How can you blame us?



Porn doesn't find it's way onto a minor's computer, minors find it. How do they do this? Unrestricted access to a computer in private.

Parents are responsible to a certain point. I know when I was young, I had access to all sorts of pornography! You could either wait outside of the liquor store for a nice guy to buy the shit for you, you could find it in any bush near the school, or SOMEONE had an older brother with an endless porn collection that he would happily share with his lil' brother.

:2 cents:

Thats a stupid argument. ENough said.

One of my concerns as a parent is if you keep shielding them from it, it will only make them more curious/determined to go startup their own 'projects'.


As for Napolean, regarding:
which kinda brings me to a good idea, even if it isnt possible.
but if there would be a way to plug in to the DMV Records and have a user fill out their license # to verify their age.. should be almost fullproof unless the kid steals his parents driver license.


I'm not sure the population would like all this information about them is travelling and readily available on the internet with all the identity fraud going on.

Good points, but still i'm having a hard time believing there aren't better ways to prevent kids from viewing all your readily available pornography.

Think about it as being a video store where the adult section is wide open.

Then again not all TGP's are created equal. At lest some put a certain effort, which is far from the majority.

Oh by the way BREAKING NEWS:

I know what's in my sig and you should look up Shemp's reply in this thread.

On that note, i'm off to bed, burial is early tomorrow morning.

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#3 Go to this website and others like it to protect your ass. Fill in the forms and add the scripts to your page if you're so inclined.

Shit, forgot the URL. Here it is: IRCA

Whenever I see dildozer's posts, I think it's Shemp because of the sig. Then I read what he has to say and I'm kinda dumbfounded that Shemp would post something like that, so I look over to the name on the left and it all makes sense.

Some people are to shallow to begin understanding.

Good work Dildozer, you just might be a visionary. :thumbsup

Ya just made it in my who's who book:1orglaugh

My TGP has a warning page, but I doubt a kid is gonna say.....

"Fuck, I am not 18, I should leave now"

Damn! I guess it's the parent's fault then, you're doing the best you can right? :1orglaugh

I was jerking to TGP's when I was like 15 and 16 years old. The fact that 90% of a TGP's visitors are kids is just the way it is. If its free, and it's porn, kids will find it. They're usually better at this stuff than the 40 year old AOL user anyway.

Tell me why it is up to me to prevent minors from viewing my site? Do TV shows showing adult themes prevent minors from viewing? No. It's up to the parents to babysit their own brats. Why is the internet any different?



I hope you're asking from a "devil's advocate" position, because otherwise I'd have to call you a moron, and I really don't want to do that. :winkwink:

What the hell you are talking about?

RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i love it when tards make topics, they make me giggle :glugglug

Could all this be part of the price we pay for a free society? Who among us didn?t see porn, before we were of age?

There are so many tools available to limit access to porn, one really does have to lay responsibility on the parents and schools.

You turn on the nightly news and see blood splattered all over the place from a missile blowing someone apart. Which is worse, the violence or the sex? Which will have a greater impact on an individual and society? So someone sees a tit on the Super Bowl! We have young people being set home in body bags every day. Which is worse? These comments are from a life long Republican.

It seems to me, that many have their head up their ass on what is really important.

bleh i fuck up

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Why would I give YOU my secrets??????

It's all Shemp's fault - QED.

Why should you? Why should I give you mine?

Maybe if we both share, we both grow.

yup

Hmm... Maybe, but why would I share on a public board for all to see???

Thats what parents are for. Kids should not be on the internet without parental supervision. The problem with parents today is they expect everyone to do thier job for them. The schools (over-restrictive internet useage polices), the government (police babysitting), the TV makers (V-chip), the movie business (MPAA's rating system) and now even the porn site owners.

"But we both have to work - we've got bills to pay - we can't afford to stay home and supervise our kids all the time!", the parents say? Well then, you weren't ready to have kids. A financially stable household can stay running with one parent not working. Too many people are fucking and popping out babies before they are ready.

The porn industry has made a choice to try and present themselves as against children accessing porn when it isnt the porn industry's job in the first place. But they did it because if they didnt, the damn family values nuts would start lynching them.

And I know this is contary to the "industry" stance on this. Oh fucking well.

The fact of the matter is that we all hold back on some key items. If we let the noobs or sleazy in on insider info that makes us money, then there wouldn't be enough for us. Some key tid-bits, took a long time to learn.

My hat off to Shemp who helps many newbies and helped me too. That's why it's all his fault. But, I bet ya, even he holds some things close. A lot of this biz his who you know and the relationships you develope. I think I wanna know NaughtyJenn better.... OK, Amber too.

Some TGPs/sites have an enter page where you have to input your DOB by month/data/year and then hit submit, but I think thats lame.

It is lame!!! Plus it doesn't help ya in court (not an attorney - not legal advice worth anything). Any 12 yearold can click enter.

One more click a surfer may not make - esp on trades.

Plus I think there is an attorney trying to call that his intellectual property. I could say more about that, but learned along time ago not to piss off an attorney, I was married to one. Now I've said to much...

That's really not a viable solution for many reasons.
First, the first 4-6 digits of a credit card number determine the card type and the issuing bank. If it starts with 3, it's an Amex. Starts with 4, it's a Visa, starts with 5, it's a MC.

All TD cards start with 4520, 4551 or 4085. All CIBC cards start with 4501-4505. Etc. Many banks also use the BIN number (the first digits) to determine the type of card. For example, any TD card starting with 4520 is a Canadian card proprietery to the bank (Gold Cards, Classics Cards). All 4551 cards are co-branded (GM, Harley Davidson, Walmart) and all 4085 cards are US$ cards.

Implementing something like this on an internatiol scale would be a real pain in the ass. Frst Visa Int'l would have to implement this as a rule. Then, they'd have to pass it on to Visa Canada, Visa USA, etc.

Then, each issuing bank would have to be assigned a new BIN to support this idea. This would require brand new systems in thousands of banks. Billions of dollars spent on new software, new hardware, new paperwork, forms, stationary, brochures, etc.

If Visa did decide to implement this, it would take years. Recently, Visa Canada decided that merchants can no longer print the entire card number on the receipt. IIRC, they have until 2010 to implement this change.

Also, if they did implement this, it would be nowhere near 100% foolproof. When you add an additional cardholder on your account, you're not required to state their age. Also, when you open a bank account, you're not required to state or age, or you can easily lie about it. And when you give a pre-loaded Visa gift card to someone, no age verification is done.

if you guys are suggesting that a card number is just used for validation, then its a rediculous idea, as long as you know the checksum algorithym you can make up fake numbers on the fly.

tell me the first 15 digits of your cc and ill tell you the last one, they arent random numbers.

no one is suggesting that. dildozer is suggesting charging/authorizing a credit card in order to confirm age and get access to the site (like a paysite or free trial site).

in order for an authorization to be approved on a credit card, the card number has to exist.

the check digit may not be random, but the checksum algorithym is worthless if the first 15 digits i give you are fake.

agreed

Still dosent matter. Ever heard of a debit card? They give them to 6 year olds now. I had my first credit card when I was 12. Just because you have a credit card dosent mean jack shit.

And even if they do somehow make it so that ONLY adults have cards, the kids will just use thier parents cards (without thier permission of course, and then you'll get a chargeback).

do yourself a favour and read my posts in this thread.

you've simply gone and repeated what i've said.

End of discussion:glugglug

That would make him a pretty HUGE fucktard... here, put this in your sig: cp.com/free-cp-samples.html:glugglug

Surf-Friendly works much like that, except it is software run and not dependent on millions of child friendly webpages having to give up established .com domains and having to buy whatever new TLD comes along. The only real extra benefit to doing it that way is millions of $$$ for those who sell domains.