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Huggles 03-21-2004 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by Dildozer


Blah blah blha

You TGP retards always use the same lame excuse. Well guess what, kids don't use only one computer. Not every site's blocked by those programs. They're ways to protect kids on their side. What about your side?


I didn't insult you to begin with. Now you pull out some lame retard insult?


Bitch, I will choke you with my cock you fucking downs' syndrome helmet wearing freak. I will kick you in your fucking ass so hard you'll be picking your Sponge Bob underwear out of your liver if you ever wake up from your coma. This is after I choke off your air supply by pissing directly into your lungs after I put a hole in there using a folded up metal Sleazydream business card shoved through your urethra and pulled out of your rib cage. Take your Warning Page, unattentive single parent loving ass and get the fuck off on your lipping Huggles trip and hope I don't make your face my personal latrine.


If the child is surfing porn, the PARENT is responsible. If the child is sniffing glue, the PARENT is responsible. If the child is late to school, the PARENT is responsible.


Should glue companies make glue unavailable to minors? When I was in school, indian kids huffed glue.

When I was in school, I was late to school. Was TV responsible?



No, it is up to the fucking parent to be responsible.

broke 03-21-2004 11:39 PM

Hey dipshit.

CC verification?

Please.

Any 14 year old these days with a bank account has a visa debit card.

psyko514 03-21-2004 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Dildozer
Face it, the only real way is to restrict it by credit card, well at least 99.5% of them.
Credit cards are not a valid age verification tool. There's a reason why AVS no longer stands for "Adult Verification Service".

Most minors in the USA get a Visa or Mastercard debit card when they open a chequing account. On top of that, many minors are getting pre-loaded gift cards like Visa Buxx cards. And many adults add their children as authorized users.

Huggles 03-21-2004 11:45 PM

It's the parents. They need to control what's going on the computers, and in the garage.



See:



Columbine

TheSenator 03-21-2004 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Huggles
It's the parents. They need to control what's going on the computers, and in the garage.



See:



Columbine


I agree PARENTS just like me take responsiblity. No government is going to tell me how to raise my kids. Let the Internet govern itself.

Huggles 03-21-2004 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSenator



I agree PARENTS just like me take responsiblity. No government is going to tell me how to raise my kids. Let the Internet govern itself.


Ex-fucking-actly.



:)

foreverjason 03-22-2004 12:14 AM

I think his real motives was to gain thread of the day or something, look he incited you guys so easily into anger.

the Shemp 03-22-2004 02:11 AM

bumped for the sig views ;)

Evelyn 03-22-2004 02:18 AM

when you use one of those little cards to sign up for a subsrciption to Playboy, they don't check your age. My nephew has had a subsription for two years now and he's only 17. He sends a money order in. Is playboy supposed to be responsible for any underage eyes that MAY come into contact with their content?

It is up to them to set a standard for the distributors and up to the distributors to uphold that contract to the best of their ability. The distributors stop being responsible for the material as soon as it leaves the legal property.

loverboy 03-22-2004 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by spunky1
Yea they should have a warning page.
#1 surfers know what to expect and warning pages mean they close the page faster.
#2 Parents have to install a block on their puters to stop it in the first place

best advise i seen from this thread.
just to add for individuals who love to
surf porn sites, i suggest that you automatically set IE to delete cokkies
and temporary internet files when you
log out or reboot PC.

escorpio 03-22-2004 02:23 AM

I do the same thing Shemp does.


50 porn surfing teenage boys...

HS-Trixxxia 03-22-2004 02:25 AM

Shemp, it's the second time this week he's brought on attention to your site with his criticism of other sites just like yours. Do you see it as a positive advertising or negative? Have you seen an increase in figures from this type of publicity?

Strife 03-22-2004 02:26 AM

what a fucking hypocrite :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Gunni 03-22-2004 02:28 AM

The internet shouldn't be accesible to minors with out guidance!
There are programs parents can use to prevent their children seeing porn and they should use them. If I had a kid I'd never let him loose on the net with out supervision :2 cents:

escorpio 03-22-2004 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Huggles

Bitch, I will choke you with my cock you fucking downs' syndrome helmet wearing freak. I will kick you in your fucking ass so hard you'll be picking your Sponge Bob underwear out of your liver if you ever wake up from your coma. This is after I choke off your air supply by pissing directly into your lungs after I put a hole in there using a folded up metal Sleazydream business card shoved through your urethra and pulled out of your rib cage. Take your Warning Page, unattentive single parent loving ass and get the fuck off on your lipping Huggles trip and hope I don't make your face my personal latrine.

I'm in awe. You fucking rule!:thumbsup

pimplink 03-22-2004 02:34 AM

We all have different views.

escorpio 03-22-2004 02:41 AM

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Originally posted by pimplink
We all have different views.
Dildozer's view is limited, what with his head being so firmly jammed up his ass.

the Shemp 03-22-2004 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trixxxia
Shemp, it's the second time this week he's brought on attention to your site with his criticism of other sites just like yours. Do you see it as a positive advertising or negative? Have you seen an increase in figures from this type of publicity?
i havent noticed anything pro or con.
i took way more abuse and lost business when i ran that Paris Hilton banner.

Huggles 03-22-2004 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by escorpio
I'm in awe. You fucking rule!:thumbsup


>bow<

HS-Trixxxia 03-22-2004 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the Shemp


i havent noticed anything pro or con.
i took way more abuse and lost business when i ran that Paris Hilton banner.

True I remember that - although I wasn't around much to read what was being said - I just got the final breathes of it :)

Dildozer 03-22-2004 10:16 AM

Thanks Shemp, I appreciate you letting me express myself.

He's a true businessman unlike most of you sheep.

So what solutions do you propose to prevent underage kids from seeing content?

Credit card aren't perfect i agree but it's still a potent way to prevent at least part of them.

CC companies could have a special number for credit cards assigned to minors, like basic Mastercards always start with 5258 (at least in canada) so maybe for minors could start with a specific number like 5257 or whatever.

Still most of you TGPers aren't doing much to prevent kids from viewing all that graphic porn. tsk tsk

I'm off to the funeral home to pay tribute to a real businessman, i'll bump this thread to infuriate you even more when i get back

:1orglaugh

piker 03-22-2004 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Dildozer
How does it feel to peddle porn to minors? :helpme

Tell me about your "plans" to prevent exposing minors to all that free porn and tell me how it truly works.

It's not my job to babysit your kids and it shouldn't be the governments either. My only plan is don't target kids/minors.

Steve 03-22-2004 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Dildozer
How does it feel to peddle porn to minors? :helpme

Tell me about your "plans" to prevent exposing minors to all that free porn and tell me how it truly works.

I tell my kids friends about thehun.net

hey, at least there aren't all those blind links, like on my sites!

Huggles 03-22-2004 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer

Still most of you TGPers aren't doing much to prevent kids from viewing all that graphic porn. tsk tsk



Nor am I preventing them from smoking pot, or getting drunk. I'm also not making sure they get to school on time, or have a lunch packed.


Sorry, but the Internet isn't some safe, happy land where the birds chirp, the sun is always shining, and the clouds are few and look like pillows. No, the Internet in many ways is the anus of humanity, with all the porn, gore, hatred, illegal software downloads, tips on how to make bombs, etc etc etc. It is NOT child friendly and never will, nor should be.

crockett 03-22-2004 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by 4Pics
you are an idiot, why the hell are you bitching about anyone when you run a tgp in your sig.

:321GFY


nothing more needs to be said so I'll just quote him :)


but if you can come up with some great orginal Idea instead of just bitching Dildozer I'd love to hear it.

Herb Kornfield 03-22-2004 11:15 AM

Its the parents job to watch their kids and their activities at the end of the day.

Plopping a kid down with an open internet connection opens them to the world of the net.

You can stop the kid with every parental control out there, that dont mean that johnny or suzie isnt going to get a hardcore DVD from their friends at school one day and pop it in the C drive at the house.

Tell the kids under 18 to go outside and play if you are that concerned about their welfare.

Huggles 03-22-2004 11:16 AM

Dildozer is probably the type of person that would allow their kid to have a computer in their own room, with a lock on the door. :1orglaugh

Jimmer 03-22-2004 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
How does it feel to peddle porn to minors? :helpme

Tell me about your "plans" to prevent exposing minors to all that free porn and tell me how it truly works.

I think that parents need to take responsibilty for thier own children.

tbabe 03-22-2004 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the Shemp


i havent noticed anything pro or con.
i took way more abuse and lost business when i ran that Paris Hilton banner.

Sure, but did you convert well with it? Thats the real question.

Dildozer 03-22-2004 11:24 AM

So basically you people just blame it on the parents.

How convenient when you show hardcore porn without any restrictions :1orglaugh

And all you crybabies going "look at your sig" or "I'm telling Shemp" :1orglaugh

Asslicking your way to success isn't gonna work.

LOL

Say baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Cory W 03-22-2004 11:30 AM

If you have the proper meta tags, title tags, body text and use an "adult" domain name (all of which describes accurately the content of your site) then I think you are taking the appropriate and practical precautions.

Parents have all the tools to prevent minors from viewing adult content. If they they are unable to do it, then they should not have the Internet.

Do you see kids playing kick ball on the freeway? You don't because parents do not allow them to play there. And the goverment / society would deem this activity as liable on the parents side if anything were to happen. Inherently, parents are responsible for where their kids play (this includes the Internet).

Doc911 03-22-2004 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Dildozer


Yada yada yada.

Porn video stores check to make sure minors don't enter the adult video section. What are YOU doing?

I've tried the video / website comparison since we have both.

A kid "could" just run through the door and see tits and ass everywhere, but once noticed and caught he would be escorted out.

I believe its up to the store owner and site owner to take "reasonable" precautions to keep minors away.

http://www.icra.org
http://www.asacp.org/
http://www.surfcontrol.com/
http://www.cyberpatrol.com/
http://www.netnanny.com/
http://www.cybersitter.com/

But the major burden should remain in the hands of the parents.

V_RocKs 03-22-2004 11:41 AM

Perhaps he surfs with sigs turned off... He probably doesn't even know what the paypal payment from shemp was for...

Cory W 03-22-2004 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
So basically you people just blame it on the parents.

How convenient when you show hardcore porn without any restrictions :1orglaugh

And all you crybabies going "look at your sig" or "I'm telling Shemp" :1orglaugh

Asslicking your way to success isn't gonna work.

LOL

Say baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I take nothing away from you having the right to express yourself. With that being said, if you took money for Shemp's sig, then you are directly profiting from a tgp. So in many ways, you you should propose a solution as well.

I would love to hear what your ideas on this would be. I have ran / run mgps / tgps.

zentz 03-22-2004 11:54 AM

:winkwink:

HS-Trixxxia 03-22-2004 12:08 PM

First, I think anyone under the age of 18 shouldn't have a credit card that they can use online.
Second, I know teenagers are curious and it's very normal that they are.
Third, as a parent, my son knows what he can surf and what he can't - when he surfs the net, his door is open and the screen is facing the door. My son has always been able to ask me anything about sex. When he surfs and finds sites that are misleading - he tells me about it (cuz he knows I check his history-and I know if he clicked further into the site). I will either write to the webmaster of the site in question & if it's meant to lure kids to the site, then I'll report it to search engines - or trace back how he got there in the first place and report it to linking sites.

As for blocking kids - I'd say create a TLD that is childsafe - copy the safe sites or 'socially approved sites' for family viewing to that TLD and don't allow hyperlinks to move past that TLD. Any link to something other than .kidsafeTLD will bring you to a 404 page.
This of course would be an international community responsability which means that all search engines results/advertisers/have to be 'child/family safe' - the browsers should have an age group monitor that will give access based on the users age group even within the .kidsafeTLD. Parents would then have to set up their computers with usernames and passwords for their older children and by default the computers open up on the childsafe ones - so younger children can get online with less things to remember.

Ok so whoever does this -remember me when you make all your millions - and if you want more details of how I think it should work, hit me up on ICQ. :)

Slick 03-22-2004 12:41 PM

ROFL, this is kinda funny because about 3 weeks ago I had the same discussion from one of my old co-workers that thinks that what I do is morally wrong.

The thing is that it's the PARENT'S responsibility to monitor what their kids do. The internet isn't a babysitter. My 12 year old son keeps bugging me to set the internet up on our second computer upstairs, I won't do it because of the fact that I don't want him looking for porn. He's only allowed on the internet on the computer downstairs when we're home, otherwise the case is locked up when we're not around. It's as simple as that.

For the parents that want their kids to have the internet on computers in their room, they take chances that they're gonna get into porn. Sure they can put up the cyber sitting programs on their computer which does block most nasty stuff and if they're REALLY that concerned, then they should secretly install one of those programs that makes a log of everything that they type and it also takes screenshots every so often, that way you'll know if they're trying to get into porn and can take action there. I think that between those 2 methods, it'd be totally full proof that they could get away with looking at porn without you knowing about it.

RockDaddy 03-22-2004 12:47 PM

Parents, don't let your kids play in the Information Super Highway then get upset when the Bang Bus runs them over!!

Slick 03-22-2004 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by RockDaddy
Parents, don't let your kids play in the Information Super Highway then get upset when the Bang Bus runs them over!!
ROFL, ha ha ha, that's soooooo true :)

Napolean 03-22-2004 12:53 PM

has Dildozer told anyone how HE prevents minors from accessing his sites??

unless you have some magical way of preventing kids from getting to your sites, your giving everyone shit over an issue your just as guilty on.

the only good ways I can think of are those age verification scripts that use list menus or where you type in your birth date..

if the kid lies and puts an incorrect date.. he has committed perjury sorta, same thing as using a fake id to buy cigerettes or alcohol.

which kinda brings me to a good idea, even if it isnt possible.
but if there would be a way to plug in to the DMV Records and have a user fill out their license # to verify their age.. should be almost fullproof unless the kid steals his parents driver license.

but, I dont see this being a possibility any time soon


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