If bush is re-elected the US will go to war with china. - GoFuckYourself.com

- Jesus Christ - · 03-20-2004, 09:54 PM

Nothing more to add, just want to be able to bump this thread when it happens.

Niko Bimini · 03-20-2004, 09:54 PM

Webby · 03-20-2004, 09:55 PM

I would not worry too much - they ain't got two cents to rub together and they need another loan from China to stay afloat

tungsten · 03-20-2004, 09:57 PM

that's a scary thought..

- Jesus Christ - · 03-20-2004, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by Webby

I would not worry too much - they ain't got two cents to rub together and they need another loan from China to stay afloat

um... what?

Niko Bimini · 03-20-2004, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webby

I would not worry too much - they ain't got two cents to rub together and they need another loan from China to stay afloat

So china will take a loan from china?????

SirSmokeALot · 03-20-2004, 09:59 PM

Let's Hope

freeadultcontent · 03-20-2004, 09:59 PM

one must be elected in the first place to be re-elected.

- Jesus Christ - · 03-20-2004, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
one must be elected in the first place to be re-elected.

BUUUUUUUURN.

Spunky · 03-20-2004, 10:00 PM

Those north koreans should be taken out

=^..^= · 03-20-2004, 10:00 PM

he almost had a war with china less than 2 weeks of becoming prez b4
Jesus - I think you are right and oh before I forget:

Jesus Will you save me when it happens?

blindman · 03-20-2004, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
one must be elected in the first place to be re-elected.

he will be

sumphatpimp · 03-20-2004, 10:01 PM

so how many of you are draft age

Webby · 03-20-2004, 10:02 PM

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um... what?

The US is in debt to more countries than are in the alphabet - including China. China is currently issuing loans to the US in the vague hope they may be repaid on the due date :-)

When you consider one year ago 94% of all household assets in the US was the total debt owing to other nations and that situation has got worse in the last twelve months - I doubt this is a nation that has one hope in hell of going to war with anyone, despite all the hardware :-)

serious · 03-20-2004, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Nothing more to add, just want to be able to bump this thread when it happens.

in that case, serious was here 2004

Ic3m4nZ · 03-20-2004, 10:02 PM

and the US WILL LOSE maybe not the battle in China but the american people way much more on their own soil trust this.

Niko Bimini · 03-20-2004, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webby

The US is in debt to more countries than are in the alphabet - including China. China is currently issuing loans to the US in the vague hope they may be repaid on the due date :-)

When you consider one year ago 94% of all household assets in the US was the total debt owing to other nations and that situation has got worse in the last twelve months - I doubt this is a nation that has one hope in hell of going to war with anyone, despite all the hardware :-)

Ahh yeah dude pass that down here man..........I could use a hit of what your smokin.

Webby · 03-20-2004, 10:06 PM

Ic3m4nZ:

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and the US WILL LOSE maybe not the battle in China but the american people way much more on their own soil trust this.

That's the sad bit - It's what done in their name... I suppose the reason will be "the world is a safer place without China" *g*

LittleMack · 03-20-2004, 10:07 PM

It is scary, I am a independent that supports the war on Terror but not so much Iraq...I agree Saddam must go.....China is another matter, with Taiwan and China relations being so tense, I think the above statement is true, we will be at war with China. We must defend Democracy at all costs. I hope Kerry will see this when he is elected President,

baddog · 03-20-2004, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by Bimini

Ahh yeah dude pass that down here man..........I could use a hit of what your smokin.

no doubt

VeriSexy · 03-20-2004, 10:09 PM

He will win just like crazy Chen Shui-bian from Taiwan

Webby · 03-20-2004, 10:10 PM

Bimini:

Quote:

Ahh yeah dude pass that down here man..........I could use a hit of what your smokin.

Only smoking cigars and no "additives" to make em sweeter :-)

The stats are in last years US Treasury report. Bush glanced at them and thought "this is not a thing I need to know".

The full Treasury report is one of the scariest financial statements I've ever seen.

torrey · 03-20-2004, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webby

The US is in debt to more countries than are in the alphabet - including China. China is currently issuing loans to the US in the vague hope they may be repaid on the due date :-)

When you consider one year ago 94% of all household assets in the US was the total debt owing to other nations and that situation has got worse in the last twelve months - I doubt this is a nation that has one hope in hell of going to war with anyone, despite all the hardware :-)

They have WiFi at the opium den??

VeriSexy · 03-20-2004, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LittleMack
It is scary, I am a independent that supports the war on Terror but not so much Iraq...I agree Saddam must go.....China is another matter, with Taiwan and China relations being so tense, I think the above statement is true, we will be at war with China. We must defend Democracy at all costs. I hope Kerry will see this when he is elected President,

"We must defend Democracy at all costs"

What on earth are you talking about? You think China will force Capitalism/Communism onto you?

Niko Bimini · 03-20-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by torrey
They have WiFi at the opium den??

- Jesus Christ - · 03-20-2004, 10:14 PM

Niko Bimini · 03-20-2004, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -

Now thats what the fuck I am talkin about!!!!!!!!!

It aint communism I am worried about! It is that happening in my back yard.

Ya know I hear China has oh.....................a few nukes over there.

VeriSexy · 03-20-2004, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Bimini

Ahh yeah dude pass that down here man..........I could use a hit of what your smokin.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_.../FA23Dj01.html

"China recycles trade surplus into US Treasury bonds
American companies may have forgotten what Henry Ford propounded when he first built his Model T: If you do not pay high enough wages to your workers, they can't afford to buy your product. One simple basis for that Bush boom is that China is recycling its US$100 billion-plus trade surplus with the US back into dollars, and especially into US Treasury bonds. Almost half of the US Treasury bonds are now owned in Asia. So China is financing Bush's bold economic experiment: running two or more wars simultaneously with a huge budget and trade deficit, and equally huge tax handouts for the richest Americans.

One has to question the long-term economic rationale for China of putting its long-term assets into very low-interest bonds in a currency that has already dropped recently by a third - and is going to drop even more. It certainly makes strategic sense: if push came to shove over, for example, the Taiwan Strait, all Beijing has to do is to mention the possibility of a sell order going down the wires. It would devastate the US economy more than any nuclear strike the Chinese could manage at the moment. "

Webby · 03-20-2004, 10:17 PM

torrey:

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They have WiFi at the opium den??

Dunno! :-)

I think you need to read the actual stuff that is published by the US Treasury - not some upbeat BS from the lying, deceitful Admin.

Last year's Treasury Report was the most extensive ever produced and "supposed" to be included in the budget last year. Needless to say Bush hid it and Greenspan complained, but was told to shut up. Time will tell - it has only got worse in the last year...

Webby · 03-20-2004, 10:20 PM

Bimini

Quote:

Ya know I hear China has oh.....................a few nukes over there.

Do they??? *g* Has the US not got em too???

How come it's OK for some to have nukes and others it's not??

Is the US some "special case" or something?? :-)

LittleMack · 03-20-2004, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VeriSexy

"We must defend Democracy at all costs"

What on earth are you talking about? You think China will force Capitalism/Communism onto you?

I am not worried about China forcing democracy on me. I am and live in a democratic country....I worry about China taking over Taiwan!

Niko Bimini · 03-20-2004, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VeriSexy

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_.../FA23Dj01.html

"China recycles trade surplus into US Treasury bonds
American companies may have forgotten what Henry Ford propounded when he first built his Model T: If you do not pay high enough wages to your workers, they can't afford to buy your product. One simple basis for that Bush boom is that China is recycling its US$100 billion-plus trade surplus with the US back into dollars, and especially into US Treasury bonds. Almost half of the US Treasury bonds are now owned in Asia. So China is financing Bush's bold economic experiment: running two or more wars simultaneously with a huge budget and trade deficit, and equally huge tax handouts for the richest Americans.

One has to question the long-term economic rationale for China of putting its long-term assets into very low-interest bonds in a currency that has already dropped recently by a third - and is going to drop even more. It certainly makes strategic sense: if push came to shove over, for example, the Taiwan Strait, all Beijing has to do is to mention the possibility of a sell order going down the wires. It would devastate the US economy more than any nuclear strike the Chinese could manage at the moment. "

Now that is a very credible news source for sure...........

torrey · 03-20-2004, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
torrey:

Dunno! :-)

I think you need to read the actual stuff that is published by the US Treasury - not some upbeat BS from the lying, deceitful Admin.

Last year's Treasury Report was the most extensive ever produced and "supposed" to be included in the budget last year. Needless to say Bush hid it and Greenspan complained, but was told to shut up. Time will tell - it has only got worse in the last year...

link the report you read.

Lycanthrope · 03-20-2004, 10:24 PM

Damn it!

...and I just signed up for DTI Cash which is looking like its going to do well for my Asian redirectees

Webby · 03-20-2004, 10:24 PM

Bimini

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Now that is a very credible news source for sure...........

That the best you can say?? Shoot the messenger?? :-)

This information is openly available all over the world and in the US media as well... sometimes it pays to look :-)

Hell.. call Greenspan and he'll tell you the same thing!

Webby · 03-20-2004, 10:28 PM

torrey:

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link the report you read.

Go to the US Treasury site and read the fucking thing from the horse's mouth - that is, assuming the retention span can last out!

Sheesh... take the effort to even look up references in *any* US media.

Now I know why some reckon the holocaust never happened!

Niko Bimini · 03-20-2004, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webby
Bimini

That the best you can say?? Shoot the messenger?? :-)

This information is openly available all over the world and in the US media as well... sometimes it pays to look :-)

Hell.. call Greenspan and he'll tell you the same thing!

I am not sure which is funnier.......................quoting the "Asian Online Times" as a news source.......or you acting like you have read the Treasury Report cover to cover and know Greenspans phone number..........funny shit

- Jesus Christ - · 03-20-2004, 10:34 PM

I wasnt going to get involved but....

@ Asian Online Times

Webby · 03-20-2004, 10:35 PM

Bimini:

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I am not sure which is funnier.......................quoting the "Asian Online Times" as a news source.......or you acting like you have read the Treasury Report cover to cover and know Greenspans phone number..........funny shit

Now that was more than a one-liner, but still contained absolutely nada content or any *actual* comment on anything about the state of "non economics" in the US. Sad!!!

Did I ever say I read the whole report? No
Did I indicate I have Greenspan's number? No

BTW.. The latter was a fucking cynical remark which was clearly taken up as a "truth" by the dumb... even sadder!!!

Hell.. learn something about *anything* before you open your mouth!

maxdaname · 03-20-2004, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
one must be elected in the first place to be re-elected.

OUCH!

VeriSexy · 03-20-2004, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bimini

Now that is a very credible news source for sure...........

China Issues US$78 BLN Of Treasury Bonds In 2003
http://au.news.yahoo.com/040130/3/nibj.html

CHINA TO ISSUE EQUIVALENT OF US$4.6 BLN IN T-BONDS
http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/5/8/54028985.html

CHINA'S CENTRAL BANK QUICKENS MONEY WITHDRAWAL
http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/9/5/54130559.html

China float might hit US Treasuries-PIMCO's Keller
http://www.forbes.com/markets/bonds/...tr1004460.html

China is an important buyer of U.S. Treasury securities, holding $119.4 billion of them at the end of April, U.S. Treasury Department figures show.

China's New 'Self-Defense' Tool: U.S. Bonds
http://www.iht.com/IHT/PS/98/ps040398a.html

These sources credible enough? Read it and believe it kid

Living For Today · 03-20-2004, 10:37 PM

one could make many statements that may come true in the future.

Niko Bimini · 03-20-2004, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
I wasnt going to get involved but....

@ Asian Online Times

Yeah why not the "National Enquirer" or maybe "The Star"

Webby · 03-20-2004, 10:38 PM

I never looked... but bet the "Asian Times" is more balanced and truthful than the US media! Hell.. *anything* is more balanced and truthful than the US media!

My dog can write a good article.. want her to submit it?? Least she is honest!! :-)

torrey · 03-20-2004, 10:38 PM

http://www.china.org.cn/english/2002/Sep/44671.htmthats all I could find on "China Debt"

Niko Bimini · 03-20-2004, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VeriSexy

China Issues US$78 BLN Of Treasury Bonds In 2003
http://au.news.yahoo.com/040130/3/nibj.html

CHINA TO ISSUE EQUIVALENT OF US$4.6 BLN IN T-BONDS
http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/5/8/54028985.html

CHINA'S CENTRAL BANK QUICKENS MONEY WITHDRAWAL
http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/9/5/54130559.html

China float might hit US Treasuries-PIMCO's Keller
http://www.forbes.com/markets/bonds/...tr1004460.html

China is an important buyer of U.S. Treasury securities, holding $119.4 billion of them at the end of April, U.S. Treasury Department figures show.

China's New 'Self-Defense' Tool: U.S. Bonds
http://www.iht.com/IHT/PS/98/ps040398a.html

These sources credible enough? Read it and believe it kid

See now that is someone who knows how to back up there arguement.

Thank you

Paul Markham · 03-20-2004, 10:39 PM

So many here seem to be blind to the fact that the US is in debt up to it's ears. Just read a few financial reports to see the debt.

And if the US owes the Chinese so much, think about how much they owe the Arabs.

And all Bush has to stop people looking at his record is selling the fear of Iran or somewhere else assisting terrorists.

Webby · 03-20-2004, 10:40 PM

VeriSexy:

Well.. you done a load there! :-)

When it comes to idiots, I can't be bothered teaching em the facts of life :-)

Niko Bimini · 03-20-2004, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
VeriSexy:

Well.. you done a load there! :-)

When it comes to idiots, I can't be bothered teaching em the facts of life :-)

Hey now don't take credit for someone elses brain power there skippy.

You still haven't posted anything but dribble this whole thread.

- Jesus Christ - · 03-20-2004, 10:42 PM

At this point each countries economy depends partly on the other.... the fact that China has much stock in US bonds ECT. shows how interlinked our economies are. Thats part of the problem. Both counties can kick the other where it hurts and makes an escalation to a nuclear exchange a very real possibility.

We do rely on the MANY MANY purchases china makes from us (including OIL.... they have the fasted growing demand)

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