So you are saying "harboring a terrorist" or "supporting a terrorist" is just a minor offense as opposed to doing the actual bombing. Supporting terrorism is supporting terrorism.

me too which just further shows the users stupidity on THAT subject as well.:thumbsup

not in the gutless world of the liberal.

since when the US cares about a terrorist members of the Palestine Liberation Front!??? Since one of the dead was an american in a wheel chair!!!! lol But now thats a reason they found to justify the invasion!??? lol Someone they couldnt have cared less if he added kill that american..!

YOu dont fucking invade a country because the guy gave safe haven to a terrorist members of the Palestine Liberation Front!! Wake the fuck up..!

The link you provided mentions Saddam paying money to the families of suicide bombers so they can survive after the IDF throws them out of there house.

The French are not a race?

Man you make NOOOO sense. The americans care about people from other countries just as much as our own which is why we are helping in Panama, Haiti, Korea, Kuwait, Germany and other countries. This particular war was about terrorism on the world and genocide within a country, if you think this war was about a single US citizen you truly are an idiot.

It's about the greater good, and the world is a better place without Saddam regardless of the reasons, just as we will be better off when Usama takes a bullet.

funny how you think you are smart... the sad part is you will never know you are wrong .. you just cant admit it to yourself...but others know.. you cant fool everybody.. lol

spin spin my liberal child.

I think you're confused by the tour de france
thats a french race.

no, neither are christians, buddhists, taoists, hindus, chinese, japanese, african, italian etc etc.

The guy was arrested long ago in Italy for his crime and then released. I didn't see anyone complain at the time but since he chose to live in Iraq afterwards all of a sudden he needs to be arrested again.

oops, my bad, I posted links to back up what I said, you just say I'm wrong.
son, hopefully after highschool, you'll have learned enough to not run with the dopey thoughts you now have.:1orglaugh

that might have been funny if i didn't see it coming about a page back.

HAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

ARe you a stand up comedian of some sort...??

Every fucking countries help other countries dimwit... same thing the poverty issue.. they give cookies when they should give trucks of meat!! And then they think they are so good!!

What as the US did in Rwanda? Do you know how many kids die each year of preventable causes around the world due to poverty!?? Over 10 millions!! Does the US.. and other countries for that matter cares? Wasnt Bush that was saying the US shoudl concentrate on his own problems before helping the world during his campaign..!?!?! You are out of your league... BYE!


" you think this war was about a single US citizen you truly are an idiot. "

Go read my post again genius... and try harder to understand..

well, I'm off to bed. I only moticed this thread because some poor moron used my name in vain.
of course, once here I felt the duty to slap around the idiot liberals before I left.:1orglaugh

All this shit fighting is leaving your claws blunt :-)

yeah but he didn't. :winkwink:

You might want to re-read my posts and edit your post. This isnt about a single person this is about the global fight on terror, period.

The guy was arrested and then released by Italy and he chose to go to Iraq. He was released and yet somehow Saddam was supposed to jail him.

America does everything within its power to help other countries, yet I see countries like France, Germany et al., opposing the war against Iraq yet when it comes down to rebuilding Iraq and their economies they want a piece of the pie? Talk about self righteous, I agree America is not perfect, and we cannot be everything to everyone but I do believe you need to do some research about all the things the U.S. does accomplish and how we support many other countries, granted I dont know much about Rwanda, but out of my league? I dont think so.

Once again, Saddam is not even the worst of dictators. Are we gonna go after the 50 or so others or not? Because I sure as hell don't see anyone going after Kim Jong. Heck we don't even mind Egypt's dictatorship and terror, the guy is even an important ally. Enough with the excuses. War on terror? Please, stick to war on terrorists to begin with, we're not even able to win a war on drugs, how about we start with a realistic objective this time?

War on terror, you gotta be kidding me.

:BangBang: Fuck Bush...Commie pinko bastard

lol.. you should do research of your own... France and Germany wanted a piece of the pie because Iraq owed them major coins... Will the new Iraq pay them back?? If so.. wouldnt be a nice gesture for Bush to let France and German get their money from contracts instead of making the iraqi people pay.!??? mmmmh...

I thought the US invaded to help the Iraqis. How is denying the Iraqis the products of other countries is supposed to help?
I see Bush screwing up everything the US have worked so hard to accomplish, that's what I see. Don't like the US justice system? Let's send them to Guantanamo Bay. Can't torture prisoners? Let's send them to our Syrian friends. Need proof before invading a country? Screw that. Need I go on?

Maybe you should read more about Rwanda. I'm currently reading Romeo Dallaire's book and he reveals interesting things about how super powers like France, the US and UK go about deciding wether they should send troops or not. They sent there own teams on the ground to investigate and you know what they report back? Something like: "Nothing of value here, only humans not much in the way of resources."

Exactly France cared more about the "coin" then they did about the thousands of people being killed by a crazed mass murderer. You just proved my point.

If they did care more about the coin then they'd be the first ones going over there with the US. A new market of millions of people opening up brings billions and billions of $ :)

Who said anything about denying iraqis? I think the Iraqis should benefit from the products of their country.

You guys act as if this was all a republican conspiracy and none of this happened during the democratic presidency, many of the people who are serving in the judicial system, political office etc were also elected during the Clinton administration. The fact of the matter is that I dont think the republicans are "PERFECT" but I do think they have better beliefs than the democrats. The democrats are passive and care more about being someones friend instead of standing up for what is right. Many of the problems we face today as a country were set in place during a passive 8 years of the Clinton Admin.

Yes I will read more about Rwanda, as I stated I cannot speak on that subject as I know nothing about it personaly, but will make a point to research it myself and form my own opinion.

Good luck to you and have a good evening. Thanks for the intellectual discussion, maybe we can pick it up another time.

They were one of the first ones bitching about the loss of contracts because of the war.

I never said they didn't care about the coin, everyon cares. I said they didn't care MORE about the coin.

Oh they should but they sure need to import to.

I thought the republicans cared more about being the Iraqis friends than anything else.

If you think that anti-gay, anti-porn, anti-abortion, pro-abstinence are better beliefes then there's seriously something wrong with you. I tell you what, if you lived in the ME you'd have noticed that they where kicking the ass out of religious extremism. Why do you tink 9/11 happened? Muslims in there where starting to think that hey the US finally cares.

Everyone is always debating how there was no connection between Iraq and War on Terror and here is a brief chronology of events, hopefully you will see how these events are connected. In any case it's obvious Iraq was a pivotal point for both Bush dynasty and Osama bin Laden network and either ones' future seems to depend on the successful takeover and control of Baghdad and its oil resources as well as a powerbase in the region due to its resources (not just the oil). Saddam the evil moron is just a pawn in an old and well orchestrated game. I will try to keep it short and sweet:

1989 - Osama bin Laden travels to South Yemen and warns of imminent invasion of Kuwait by Saddam. http://www.worldhistory.com/binladen.htm

08.02.1990 - Saddam invades Kuwait http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/h...t_invasion.stm

1990 - Osama bin Laden objects to non-muslim troops presence in holy land and volunteers to lead an arab army against Saddam's occupation forces, in effect getting close to declare Jihad on Saddam - http://www.worldhistory.com/binladen.htm

08.08.1990 - First US troops arrive in Saudi Arabia http://www.history.navy.mil/wars/dstorm/dsaug.htm

1990-1991 - US forces based in Saudi defeat Iraqi army in operation Desert Storm - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/cron/

1991-1996 - Bin Laden's objections to US (non-muslim) troops based in Saudi Arabia escalate into several terrorist attacks including bombings in Yemen, Somalia resistance, USSCole attack and other attacks coordinated during his extensive travels to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan - http://www.worldhistory.com/binladen.htm

1996 - Bin Laden issues a 'Declaration of War' its intent to remove US army presence from the Arabian peninsula

1991-2003 US and British bombing campaigns enforce 'No Fly Zone' in Iraq - http://www.historyguy.com/no-fly_zone_war.html

1998 - Operation Desert Fox - Allied campaign in Iraq intensifies with intent to degrade Saddam's ability to produce weapons of mass destruction - http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/desert_fox/

1998 - Bin Laden issues Fatwa urging Jihad against Americans. The conditions to cease Jihad are 1. Removal of US presence from Arabian peninsula 2. Cessation of No Fly Zone enforcement by US 3. Withdrawal of US support of the state of Israel - http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm

09.11.2001 - World Trade Center attacks, Pentagon and downed plane in Pennsylvania. Osama bin Laden is blamed - http://911digitalarchive.org/

10.2001 - Operation Enduring Freedom - US and coalition forces fight against terrorists in Afghanistan - http://www.army.mil/operations/oef/

2003 - US and Coalition of the willing invasion of Iraq

Believe it or not I am not a hardcore republican I just follow more of their beliefs than the democrats. Many republicans are pro-life and yet I believe in pro-choice. It's all a matter of opinion.

If I believed in anti-porn I wouldnt be here, but that is a non-partisan thing, you can find just as many democrats fighting porn as you can republicans. I think we as a nation in general care about the iraqis and about their freedom, I am glad we liberated Iraq, I just see way to many democrats voting against things we need to fight the war on terror and to support our troops and countries we are liberating. I would love to see the ME fight the battle over religion and their beliefs, yet when Israel defends themselves everyone gets pissed, its no different they are just defending themselves against terrorism.

Is that why there was nobody convicted under obscenity charges while Clinton was in office?
Bullshit, if you care so much then why did you take over there country? You claim to care and yet you wish you could nuke the whole region. How about it's none of your business? If you didn't stick your business in the region to begin with and supported Saddam and Ben Laden you wouldn't have had to deal with them. I'd love to see a non-homophobic, non-religious US but do you think I'm gonna try to impose my views upon other countries? Try living in the ME nowadays as am arab Christian. Just when things started to get better, it all blew up again.
I can't believe that people are dumb enough to fall for the "we are there to liberate Iraqis" line. I mean seriously, if you cared so much, the cost of the war on Iraq could've put an end to famine and saved the lives of many children. Allies and other countries commit atrocities whenever they feel like it.

Israel was created thanks to terrorism. They blew up the King David hotel and the UK ran away. Palestinians had nothing until they started using terrorism. We sure as hell didn't care when they wheren't using terrorism. Look at Tibet.

Continue to focus on your own beliefs instead of th good of that country. If you believe removing sadam from power was wrong, then you are just plain wrong in my opinon.

As far as obscenity charges, you might want to research how democratic governers and such were attacking adult companies and removing their ability to process credit cards during the last election. As far as obscenity, this topic only arises during election years, and thats it. It always goes away!

I cannot speak about living in the middle east, however I can see how iraqi's although are not completely satisfied with the current results of the war, they ARE much happier that saddam was removed from power. Soon we will relinquish power to their own goverment authorities and they can form their own goverment without fear of death. Saddam had an election with only his name on the ballot, how fair is that?

Wether I'm right or wrong doesn't matter, what matters is that it's none of your business to get involved in.
UK and France thought they where doing the right thing to by invading African countries and introducing them to there own culture. Result? African countries are still stuck with a hundred year old culture.

They feel humiliated, that's how they feel. Once again, try living there. Relinquish power to a puppet regime? Do you know that Iraqis can't protest against the US occupation at the risk of being shot at?
Somehow I don't think that the Iraqis are ready to handle that task, afterall the US got rid of Saddam, if any other problems arise they won't deal with them, they'll wait for someone else to do so.