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chupachups 03-18-2004 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by dig420



if your next door neighbor shoots your dog you don't kill the guy across the fucking street. Why is this such a complicated concept for you right-wingers?

What he said!

12clicks 03-18-2004 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by Rich


my soultion is to whore out my fat wife.
Hell, I did it to pay the rent, I might as well try it for world peace.

Now thats a noble deed!

12clicks 03-18-2004 08:35 PM

dear liberal children, its a war on terror, not a war on al queda.
I understand liberal children can't make the mental connection, that's why Bush doesn't worry about you and your french ideas.
:1orglaugh

Roger 03-18-2004 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
dear liberal children, its a war on terror, not a war on al queda.
I understand liberal children can't make the mental connection, that's why Bush doesn't worry about you and your french ideas.
:1orglaugh

And Mr nazi and his North Korean friend is here to tell all about how we should be doing that :)

cluck 03-18-2004 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
dear liberal children, its a war on terror, not a war on al queda.
I understand liberal children can't make the mental connection, that's why Bush doesn't worry about you and your french ideas.
:1orglaugh

But Iraq has nothing to do with terror. Terror towards the people of Iraq possibly, but not international terror.

The effort should be concentrated on terror networks that are, or could be planning attacks on western countries first. Protect yourself first, then look after others.

While Iraq sucked, it was a secular regime with no room for extremist terror networks. If anything, the networks would have been targetting saddam for his genocide of shia muslims.

Our battle plan is just ass backwards. Starting at the end and ending in the beginning.

AcidMax 03-18-2004 08:42 PM

Mutt I knew I liked your a a good reason. Too many of these people think with what they see on the leftist news stations like CNN. It's time for many of you start thinking for yourselves and understanding the problem at hand.

The war against Saddam was not against Al Qaeda it was against Saddam for promoting terrorism and killing thousands of people because they didnt conform to his beliefs just as Al Qaeda does on a daily basis because we do not conform to theirs. Start using your head and stop listening to the media and read, form your own opinions, even though you may be a democrat read news from drudgereport.com and read between the lines. There are way too many new leftists on this board, its just amazing.

cluck 03-18-2004 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by piker


How do you explain Madrid then if Iraq has nothing to do with Al Queda, when are you going to wake up?

Iraq was supposedly part of the "war on terror". Spain joining the US would mean spain is fighting the "war on terror". Therefore, they would also be there when the US went after the terrorists themselves. Call it a pre-emptive strike.

Rich 03-18-2004 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
you and your french ideas.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oh my God this is better than TV

AcidMax 03-18-2004 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by cluck


But Iraq has nothing to do with terror. Terror towards the people of Iraq possibly, but not international terror.

Terror is terror dude? Saddam has been funding terrorism around the globe for ages, and its nothing new, you guys are looking at the most recent war only, look at history.

Roger 03-18-2004 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by AcidMax
The war against Saddam was not against Al Qaeda it was against Saddam for promoting terrorism and killing thousands of people because they didnt conform to his beliefs just as Al Qaeda does on a daily basis because we do not conform to theirs. Start using your head and stop listening to the media and read, form your own opinions, even though you may be a democrat read news from drudgereport.com and read between the lines. There are way too many new leftists on this board, its just amazing.
Is that so? Let's go then. I'm all for invading North Korea and the other dictators who are much worst than Saddam. Come on, let's move.
Kuwait is not a dictatorship, nor Saudi Arabia nor Egypt? Oh they happen to be allies, I forgot about that one.

Ironhorse 03-18-2004 08:46 PM

50 Bush sightings

http://www.sexymojo.com/funpics/bushpower.jpg

slackologist 03-18-2004 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by AcidMax


Terror is terror dude? Saddam has been funding terrorism around the globe for ages, and its nothing new, you guys are looking at the most recent war only, look at history.

He has, where did you get that info? any links?

cluck 03-18-2004 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by AcidMax
Mutt I knew I liked your a a good reason. Too many of these people think with what they see on the leftist news stations like CNN. It's time for many of you start thinking for yourselves and understanding the problem at hand.

The war against Saddam was not against Al Qaeda it was against Saddam for promoting terrorism and killing thousands of people because they didnt conform to his beliefs just as Al Qaeda does on a daily basis because we do not conform to theirs. Start using your head and stop listening to the media and read, form your own opinions, even though you may be a democrat read news from drudgereport.com and read between the lines. There are way too many new leftists on this board, its just amazing.

Let me ask you this. When you know there are people actively pursuing attacks on domestic soil, is it more important to go after them or someone who's being unfair to the people in their own country?

I'm all for liberating Iraq, like most leftists are. Why would any left wing person be in favor of an authoritarian government? The problem with Iraq is we're blowing the budget on a distraction while there's an immediate danger to us the money would be better spent on.

torrey 03-18-2004 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Mutt
You ignoramuses are good at running your mouth about Bush and war on terror BUT amazingly enough you never let the world know your scary intelligent solution to the problem.

Should we assume that you are in favor of appeasing these lunatics who flew two jetliners into a building filled with thousands of innocent mothers and fathers?
People dont fly perfectly good airplanes into buildings for NO reason.

slackologist 03-18-2004 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by Agent White
Before this turns into an argument on "what defines religion" and numbers of dead bodies, let's argue over some more iron-clad assumptions:

1. Defending your country (note the word DEFEND) stops at your borders. Just like defending your net in soccer doesn't mean going over to the opposing net and beating the holy crap out of their goalie. Anything else is simply invasion.

2. Not liking Bush's military, economic and foreign policy decisions doesn't mean you are a member of Hamas.

3. If I was taken to court, in the US, for murder, and my testimony was "I heard rumor that my neighbor had a gun and that he might point it at me, so I went to his house, kicked the door down and shot the sweet living fuck out of the place", I would not be found innocent by means of self defense. I would be guilty.


I'm Canadian. I like the US.

I don't like the fact that many US citizens think the French are "bad" for not supporting their weak reason to go to war, but Canada and a majority of other nations didn't support the cause either and we have yet to be berated.

I don't like the fact that the US is in a bubble and most Americans can't find Iraq on a map, or know anything other than what Fox News tells them.

I don't like the fact that nearly 3/4s of Americans think WMDs were found in Iraq.

I don't like the fact that the US Army is using the base at Guantanemo Bay to avoid War Crimes legislation laid out in the Geneva Convention.

Do I think terrorism is wrong? Sure. Does that making any and all means of lying, torturing and invasion justified if it's to "fight terrorism"? No. Is Iraq a part of the "War On Terror?" No. Do many Americans think there is some link between fighting terrorists and the invasion of Iraq? Yes.

Many Americans seem to think that rhetoric and conjecture are ample enough reasoning to justify any action taken by their country, and that all other nations are jealous. When I was at Internext I asked a few Americans what Iraq had to do with terorism. I hear anything from Iraq attacked the twin towers to Osama is part of the Iraqi government. Facts are taking a backseat to patriotism and chauvenism. Anyone that asks for any reasonable justification for proclamations such as "Iraq Supports Terror" are immediately asked why they hate freedom.

In the meantime, American backpackers are still wearing Canadian flags, Obese politicians that lead your country are busy renaming french fries in the capitol cafeteria.

As a reasonable person, wouldn't you find this all a cause for concern?

Enjoy your freedom fries.


Rich 03-18-2004 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by AcidMax


Terror is terror dude? Saddam has been funding terrorism around the globe for ages, and its nothing new, you guys are looking at the most recent war only, look at history.

Look at real life. You just can't admit you fell for the obvious lies about the WMD and his connection to terrorists. It's nothing to be ashamed of, other governments bought it for Christ sake, but it's time to admit it to yourself that you were lied to and ate it up.

Saudi Arabia funds the fucking terror schools and they're your President's best friends. If you can't see something fucked up about that then you're a God damn Stepford wife.

Roger 03-18-2004 08:50 PM

I can't believe that some people, despite all what Bush has done, are still dumb enough to support him.

Ironhorse 03-18-2004 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Roger
I can't believe that some people, despite all what Bush has done, are still dumb enough to support him.
Some people can never admit they were wrong. Millions have died to support one man's pride, I'm not talking about Bush, just other bufoons before him that led the sheep astray.

AcidMax 03-18-2004 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by slackologist


He has, where did you get that info? any links?

Do you not think the missles fired into Kuwait, the mass graves and the killing of Kurds is terror, oh thats right its just "surivival of the fittest"

AcidMax 03-18-2004 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by Rich


Look at real life. You just can't admit you fell for the obvious lies about the WMD and his connection to terrorists. It's nothing to be ashamed of, other governments bought it for Christ sake, but it's time to admit it to yourself that you were lied to and ate it up.

Saudi Arabia funds the fucking terror schools and they're your President's best friends. If you can't see something fucked up about that then you're a God damn Stepford wife.

Granted I am not sure if there were WMD's this time when we went in, I am not privy to that info, however, there is concrete proof he had WMD's during the first gulf war, and lets face it Saddam is not one to change.

The fact of the matter is that regardless of the reasons for invading Iraq, WMD's etc, removing him from power was a step forward in the fight against terrorism and his regime that killed so many. Funny how the approval raiting for Bush in Iraq is 50+% even today.

Roger 03-18-2004 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by AcidMax
Do you not think the missles fired into Kuwait, the mass graves and the killing of Kurds is terror, oh thats right its just "surivival of the fittest"
Do you not think that taking over another country is terror? Do you not think that supporting Saddam while he was throwing all this shit on Iranians as terror? Of course not.

slackologist 03-18-2004 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by AcidMax


Do you not think the missles fired into Kuwait, the mass graves and the killing of Kurds is terror, oh thats right its just "surivival of the fittest"

When you said 'terror around the globe' I thought you ment just that. I don't support what he's done, but America, Israel, Turkey and others have generated just as much 'terror' in recent history.

AcidMax 03-18-2004 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by Roger
I can't believe that some people, despite all what Bush has done, are still dumb enough to support him.
You're right we should support a fucked up leftist government that downsized our military, cared more about making themselves look good instead of improving our educational system like they said they would and spent more time being passive providing people like Usama Bin Ladden the leverage to attack us on Sept. 11th.

How could anyone believe that Al Qaeda prepared this attack within 9mos after GW getting elected, maybe instead of Clinton getting a hummer he should have been more strict on foreign affairs.

AcidMax 03-18-2004 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by Roger


Do you not think that taking over another country is terror? Do you not think that supporting Saddam while he was throwing all this shit on Iranians as terror? Of course not.


Terror is terror, do you feel that him being removed from power was a bad thing?

AcidMax 03-18-2004 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by slackologist


When you said 'terror around the globe' I thought you ment just that. I don't support what he's done, but America, Israel, Turkey and others have generated just as much 'terror' in recent history.

That was just an example, look at the funds that filter to terrorist organizations, many are from Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Egypt etc. There are many countries that promote terrorism because they dont agree with the ideas of FREEDOM.

Mutt 03-18-2004 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by torrey

People dont fly perfectly good airplanes into buildings for NO reason.

<small>douchebagsezwhat</small>


huh?



AcidMax :thumbsup

Roger 03-18-2004 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by AcidMax
You're right we should support a fucked up leftist government that downsized our military, cared more about making themselves look good instead of improving our educational system like they said they would and spent more time being passive providing people like Usama Bin Ladden the leverage to attack us on Sept. 11th.
Let me remind you that 9/11 happened when Bush was in power. So if another attack was to happen in the US, are you gonna publicly delcare that Bush is a useless incompetent?

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How could anyone believe that Al Qaeda prepared this attack within 9mos after GW getting elected, maybe instead of Clinton getting a hummer he should have been more strict on foreign affairs.
You can whine on and on. Fact is, upon leaving, Clinton warned the administration that Ben Laden was getting very dangerous and needed to be dealt with. Nothing was done. Egypt and Israel sent him warnings and still he did nothing. Enough said.

Quote:

"In his campaign, Bush had said he thought the biggest security issue was Iraq and a national missile defense," Clinton said. "I told him that in my opinion, the biggest security problem was Osama bin Laden."
Obviously Bush was already too obsessed by Iraq.

slackologist 03-18-2004 09:16 PM

yes. get a fucking clue.
http://www.house.gov/reform/min/feat...on_the_record/

Roger 03-18-2004 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by AcidMax
Terror is terror, do you feel that him being removed from power was a bad thing?
Most certainly yes just like I'd think that Bush being forcibly removed from power would be a bad thing to.

Such actions create lots of problems and tend to build a country that's always gonna be dependant upon others.

AcidMax 03-18-2004 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by Roger


Obviously Bush was already too obsessed by Iraq.

Do you not remember in 1993 when the World Trade Center was bombed the first time??????

Who was in office then? hmmmmm BILL CLINTON!

Do you think that Bill Clinton didnt think he was dangerous then?

LelikG 03-18-2004 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by cluck
Now a reply to the Bush fans:

Did anyone protest us going into Afghanistan after 9/11? No, at least not many people. Why? Because it was obvious we had a job to do. We had to dismantle terrorist organizations and most importantly get Osama bin Laden.

When did Bush's critics come out of the woodwork? When he seemed to drop all of that and go after Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or Al Qaeda. In fact Al Qaeda hated saddam's secular regime. After all the money spent we got saddam. Hooray! Too bad Al Qaeda's been growing that whole time.

I think I speak for all the lefties when I saw go fight the war on terror. Don't fight other wars in the name of the war on terror. Got sidetracked once and now Al Qaeda's shown they're active again. Whoops!

I agree, lets nuke the bastards :)

torrey 03-18-2004 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by Mutt


<small>douchebagsezwhat</small>


huh?



AcidMax :thumbsup

:winkwink: :321GFY

12clicks 03-18-2004 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by cluck


But Iraq has nothing to do with terror. Terror towards the people of Iraq possibly, but not international terror.


cluck, would you like to read some facts and then edit your post so you don't look so dopey?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...bbas.arrested/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresid...p20011209.html
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oh look, its little Roger all out of brains and facts falling back to the typical liberal position of calling his betters "Nazis"

hahaha, you win that one roger

12clicks 03-18-2004 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by Bich


Look at real life. You just can't admit you fell for the obvious lies about the WMD and his connection to terrorists.

oh, the mind of a child.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=1309

you want to edit your post real quick so you don't look like the ass you are.

crockett 03-18-2004 09:25 PM

Mutt I can 100% support the war on terror that is not a question... the question is WTF did Iraq have to do with the war on terror? We will now be stuck in Iraq for a long time, we arn't get out of there any time soon.. So we have troops in Afgan and Iraq.. What happens if we have trouble else where? What if shit starts to happen in Kossovo again?

If we wouldn't have gotten involved in Iraq we could have finished the job in Afgan.. Then moved to the next target.. Right now we can't do both, this is why Afgan is pretty much a forgoten thing and in 10 years there will still be terrorists there.

Roger 03-18-2004 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
cluck, would you like to read some facts and then edit your post so you don't look so dopey?

oh look, its little Roger all out of brains and facts falling back to the typical liberal position of calling his betters "Nazis"

hahaha, you win that one roger

I'm sure you can find way more terrorists in any other country. Is that all? That guy could've gone and lived in any other country and he wouldn't have been arrested because of the OSLO peace accord. Name me one terrorist attack this guy have launched since then. Enough said. He committed no crime in Iraq and therefore Saddam didn't arrest him.

I call people nazi when they throw anti-french, anti-semitic, anti-any race insults and rightfully so.

12clicks 03-18-2004 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by Roger


I'm sure you can find way more terrorists in any other country. Is that all? That guy could've gone and lived in any other country and he wouldn't have been arrested because of the OSLO peace accord. Name me one terrorist attack this guy have launched since then. Enough said.

see dope, I knew you'd change the question from his connection to terror to his connection to terror "lately"
that's why I posted this:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=1309
you really should quit this, you're out of your league. badly.


Quote:

Originally posted by Roger
I call people nazi when they throw anti-french, anti-semitic, anti-any race insults and rightfully so.
you quit high school to sling porn didn't you?
france is not a race no matter how much you want to twist it.

please, stop. I'm embarrassed for you.:1orglaugh

xxxdesign-net 03-18-2004 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


cluck, would you like to read some facts and then edit your post so you don't look so dopey?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...bbas.arrested/



so Iraq provided safe haven to some terrorists member of the Palestine Liberation Front... oh nooo... and since when the US cares about a terrorist members of the Palestine Liberation Front!??? Since one of the dead was an american in a wheel chair!!!! lol But now thats a reason they found to justify the invasion!??? lol Someone they couldnt have cared less if he added kill that american..! Oh btw... nearly every damn countries in the middle east provide safe haven to terrorists of all kind... Can wait for the massive invasion :thumbsup

slackologist 03-18-2004 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

(snip)

i'm thinking 'nazi' means a little more than just 'race' hate.

12clicks 03-18-2004 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net



so Iraq provided safe haven to some terrorists member of the Palestine Liberation Front... oh nooo... and since when the US cares about a terrorist members of the Palestine Liberation Front!??? Since one of the dead was an american in a wheel chair!!!! lol But now thats a reason they found to justify the invasion!??? lol Oh btw... nearly every damn countries in the middle east provide safe haven to terrorists of all kind... Can wait for the massive invasion :thumbsup

I love it when the children are proven wrong and they make a 50 word post that reall just says, "nuh uh"
:1orglaugh


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