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broke · 03-18-2004, 11:42 AM

actually spend money on a cert so affiliates can sleep well at night?

With the alarming rate of identity theft and the ease of capturing non-encrypted data online, I vow to never sign up for another sponsor that asks for my SSN/TAX ID on a non-secure page.

Take your http:// signup pages and shove them up your ass.

Sponsors -- what's your excuse for not spending $39 and encrypting affiliates private data?

fris · 03-18-2004, 11:43 AM

is taxid the same as SSN? i dont see them asking for SSN

ravo · 03-18-2004, 12:00 PM

What about sponsors that don't ask for that info?

broke · 03-18-2004, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
is taxid the same as SSN? i dont see them asking for SSN

US citizens need to provide either a SSN or TAX ID #.

Being in TO and not knowing your citizen status... I'm not quite sure how that would effect you.

Sponsor picked at random:

brand0n · 03-18-2004, 12:02 PM

if thats what its going to take to get your traffic, ill have it installed before the day is out.

12clicks · 03-18-2004, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke
actually spend money on a cert so affiliates can sleep well at night?

With the alarming rate of identity theft and the ease of capturing non-encrypted data online, I vow to never sign up for another sponsor that asks for my SSN/TAX ID on a non-secure page.

Take your http:// signup pages and shove them up your ass.

Sponsors -- what's your excuse for not spending $39 and encrypting affiliates private data?

no ones looking for a poor kids identity.

XxXotic · 03-18-2004, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
is taxid the same as SSN? i dont see them asking for SSN

yes they're the same (for non-businesses or sole proprietorship)

broke · 03-18-2004, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

no ones looking for a poor kids identity.

That may be fine and good, but poor kids with good credit scores will help a crook more than 'rich' people maxed out.

You disappoint me 12clicks.

You actually think is good business practice to ask people who would become your 'sales force' for personal data online without any sort of encryption?

12clicks · 03-18-2004, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke

That may be fine and good, but poor kids with good credit scores will help a crook more that 'rich' people maxed out.

You disappoint me 12clicks.

You actually think is good business practice to ask people who would become your 'sales force' for personal data online without any sort of encryption?

Yes I do because its completely irrelevant.
I've provided mine hundreds of times. there just isn't anyone out there trying for that info.

broke · 03-18-2004, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

Yes I do because its completely irrelevant.
I've provided mine hundreds of times. there just isn't anyone out there trying for that info.

That's your opinion... I see it as a security risk.

If I didn't have any assests to protect do you honestly think I would care? I have made a business decision not to do buiness with people that pass my info plain text on the internet.

You may think that's alarmist and wrong, but it's not your decision to make.

12clicks · 03-18-2004, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke

That's your opinion... I see it as a security risk.

and that's nothing more than your opinion.

Quote:

Originally posted by broke
You may think that's alarmist and wrong, but it's not your decision to make.

sure it is. when someone says to me,"don't you have a secure server to sign up thru?"
I say,"no"

broke · 03-18-2004, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

sure it is. when someone says to me,"don't you have a secure server to sign up thru?"
I say,"no"

It's good to know you can't afford the $39 a year for a chained cert...

12clicks · 03-18-2004, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke

It's good to know you can't afford the $39 a year for a chained cert...

I'm barely hanging on.

Manowar · 03-18-2004, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke

US citizens need to provide either a SSN or TAX ID #.

Being in TO and not knowing your citizen status... I'm not quite sure how that would effect you.

Sponsor picked at random:

unencrypted data in a http:// access especially entering your SSN into it is a bit risky, You would think some of the main sponsors would https and other encryption types

broke · 03-18-2004, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

I'm barely hanging on.

What are your arguments against secure registration you blathering fuckwit? Identity theft doesn't happen and is not something you should worry about?

I know 30 Russians that would disagree and say you should.

Funny how much we agree... guess it's lost on this point.

Doctor Dre · 03-18-2004, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ravo
What about sponsors that don't ask for that info?

If they are in the US they have too .

TheDoc · 03-18-2004, 12:44 PM

Their is a bigger chance of someone hacking in and stealing the information from the database, than getting the information from a non secure sign-up form, after all the form posts directly into the database, on the same machine, not much of a chance of someone ripping that from a packet sniff which doesn't go over a network.

Doctor Dre · 03-18-2004, 12:46 PM

Agreed . It's not a BIG risk but it's still a small rick but when it happen it really fuck you up for the rest of your life (credit insurances etc)

ravo · 03-18-2004, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre

If they are in the US they have too .

Yes, I know that. And, the info is only needed from US citizens/corps.

What I'm asking broke is what does he think of non-US sponsors? (eg. any sponsor in Canada, who by the way are now governed by newly passed Privacy Laws).

TheDoc · 03-18-2004, 01:24 PM

For someone to sniff the data from a signup form they would have to have a machine/router on the bitstream. (ISPs/government/sysadmins) The average joe is not going to be able to sniff the information.

If those are the people ripping the information anyway, it wont mater if it is SSL protected.

MikeB · 03-18-2004, 01:41 PM

CE Cash has secure pages from which you can signup for our programs as well as check stats.

To signup for CE Cash on a secure server, go to:
https://coolwebstats.com/cgi-bin/joinUs.cgi/VALL

To check your stats using a secure server, go to:
https://coolwebstats.com/cgi-bin/stats-index.cgi

CE_BigB · 03-18-2004, 02:18 PM

True True

Big B

12clicks · 03-18-2004, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke

What are your arguments against secure registration you blathering fuckwit? Identity theft doesn't happen and is not something you should worry about?

I know 30 Russians that would disagree and say you should.

Funny how much we agree... guess it's lost on this point.

Knowing more than you about such things, I don't worry about not agreeing with you.

Looks like The Doc has a clue.

crescentx · 03-18-2004, 08:32 PM

Been using https:// on signup forms for a long time now. Not to mention affiliate verification tools.

https://www.xycash.com/signup7.php

-doug
xycash.com

MikeB · 03-19-2004, 05:19 PM

Just an update that CE Cash is secure, both when you signup for an account and also when you check your stats.

Also CE Cash does not ask for a SS# when you signup.

Have a great weekend everybody,

Mike B

RK · 03-19-2004, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheDoc
Their is a bigger chance of someone hacking in and stealing the information from the database, than getting the information from a non secure sign-up form

Exactly.

DrewKole · 03-19-2004, 05:49 PM

This thread has inspired me....

To not accept checks from any sponsors that do not have it hand delivered by a certified messenger boy.

There are just too many people out there, that might open up my mail, and get my name, address, and account # for various purposes. =(

Becoming a hobbit is the only answer.

03-18-2004, 11:42 AM	#1
broke Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Someplace Windy Posts: 4,501	So which sponsors will step up to the plate and.... actually spend money on a cert so affiliates can sleep well at night? With the alarming rate of identity theft and the ease of capturing non-encrypted data online, I vow to never sign up for another sponsor that asks for my SSN/TAX ID on a non-secure page. Take your http:// signup pages and shove them up your ass. Sponsors -- what's your excuse for not spending $39 and encrypting affiliates private data? __________________ Perfect Gonzo

03-18-2004, 11:43 AM	#2
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03-18-2004, 12:02 PM	#5
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03-18-2004, 12:44 PM	#17
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Their is a bigger chance of someone hacking in and stealing the information from the database, than getting the information from a non secure sign-up form, after all the form posts directly into the database, on the same machine, not much of a chance of someone ripping that from a packet sniff which doesn't go over a network. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

03-18-2004, 01:24 PM	#20
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	For someone to sniff the data from a signup form they would have to have a machine/router on the bitstream. (ISPs/government/sysadmins) The average joe is not going to be able to sniff the information. If those are the people ripping the information anyway, it wont mater if it is SSL protected. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

03-18-2004, 01:41 PM	#21
MikeB Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012	CE Cash has secure pages from which you can signup for our programs as well as check stats. To signup for CE Cash on a secure server, go to: https://coolwebstats.com/cgi-bin/joinUs.cgi/VALL To check your stats using a secure server, go to: https://coolwebstats.com/cgi-bin/stats-index.cgi

03-18-2004, 02:18 PM	#22
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03-18-2004, 08:32 PM	#24
crescentx Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 317	Been using https:// on signup forms for a long time now. Not to mention affiliate verification tools. https://www.xycash.com/signup7.php -doug xycash.com

03-19-2004, 05:19 PM	#25
MikeB Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012	Just an update that CE Cash is secure, both when you signup for an account and also when you check your stats. Also CE Cash does not ask for a SS# when you signup. Have a great weekend everybody, Mike B

03-19-2004, 05:49 PM	#27
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	This thread has inspired me.... To not accept checks from any sponsors that do not have it hand delivered by a certified messenger boy. There are just too many people out there, that might open up my mail, and get my name, address, and account # for various purposes. =( Becoming a hobbit is the only answer.