LelikG

Ariel Sharon is our countrie's hero. He is a wise and ruthless man, as a politician should be. But he is not a king or a monarch.. We have a government, and a parliament, and whatever happens is decided by the people! because we are a DEMOCRACY!!!

jayeff

You were able to make peace with Egypt because of the US agreement to make Egypt the second biggest recipient of US aid. Jordan simply doesn't want the Palestinians back because they would outnumber the Hashemite tribe to which the Hussein family owe their power. US aid again didn't hurt...

Plan9

If Lelik isn't made up, he's the biggest idiot since MADRAGE. Or, quite possibly, one and the same.

LelikG

Palestinians should not be Israel's problem
And what's with all the US aid ??? US did not aid in anything until the 1970ies ... it was all us, jews...

LelikG

Getting personal because you have nothing more to say?

slackologist

You sound like one of those self righteous hypocrite fucks that knows only what they want to know about a situation and never bothers or simply can't bring yourself to dig deeper and fully understand a situation like this.

Both sides are just as guilty of terrorism and just as 'Cold Blooded' when it comes to murder as each other, denial wont change the fact.

And to say that ALL of a certain people will act and think the same way is so ignorant it'd be laughable if it wasnt such a serious topic.

LelikG

I didn't say all of em.. I said the "average" .. so that's a misquote...
And don't pick into my words trying to dig out something that you can use to discredit me... It's not me you should worry about, it's that suicide bomber!

FACT: JEWS DO NOT BLOW UP TRAINS IN SPAIN... Although it seems as if they are more entitled to it than the muslims .. inquisition and all..

slackologist

ahh yes, democracy, lets see. You get to choose the lesser of perhaps 2 or 3 evils and then have no say in what they do for 4+ years. fantastic.

sumphatpimp

yes, yes you dumb son of a bitch, but can you make a good meatball sandwich? with extra cheese and extra sause ?


that matters

LelikG

No, thats USA

In israel all minorities are represented in a multiparty parliament system...

LelikG

You sir are a fucking racist and you can go fuck yourself

jayeff

To keep the record straight, what happens in Israel is frequently decided by small religious parties selling their votes in return for concessions that no-one except their own supporters want. On occasion, both Likud and Labor have only be able to govern via such compromises.

The reality is that Israeli opinion about the country's policy towards the Palestinians has been close to equally balanced for at least 20 years, swinging one way or the other usually for short periods. It is something Israelis can be proud of, that despite 50+ years of insecurity such as most of us will never know, so many of them retain a more balanced view than many outsiders seem capable of.

LelikG

thats not kosher, cheese and meat :D

slackologist

It's the same here( .au) and in many countries, coalitions between minor parties that can't get enough votes themselves to form government etc, the fact remains that once they're in you have no say and it's the lobby groups with the most power and influence that get their way, without external pressures.

LelikG

Yes but it's all equally distributed. The religious minorities get what they want. Labour supporters get what they want. Even the Muslim minorities get what they want ( Dead Jews )
Everybody gets what they want, except for me... I want to STOP TERRORISM!!!

slackologist

get out of palestine?

LelikG

And a million bucks... but that's that.. oK ?

LelikG

uhh , make us... ?

Theo

You gave alone the answer. Your people are not smart enough to deserve peace at the moment. Take it as hard you can, because I mean it.

Joe Citizen

Then you will get what you deserve.

slackologist

your problem, not mine.

oh, you just joined gfy today?(70post/day average) i'll stop wasting my time in this thread.

Probono

I need to go with the ban religion argument. Most of the horrors that have effected this planet during the reign of man have been caused in the name of god. Doesn't matter which god but if you don't believe in the right one of the moment and place you need to die.

No religion is innocent and religion has always been used as a tool of government to influence people and justify anything.

If there is a god, any god, he/ she / it would not want his / her /it's disciples to butcher in the name of god.

Get rid of god and we can just be secular and fight about resources and borders, something people can deal with and negotiate. Add the god factor and people become irrational.

LelikG

Anyway, I made a mistake thinking that opinions of people can be swayed towards feeling for the Jewish people. I guess history repeats itself, and the world has once more turned against the Jews, but now the Jews are armed with nukes... how bout that?

LelikG

Yes I joined today, and I welcome myself ... After three years out of the business I got an opportunity to come back. Thanks for your time... come back again...

Probono

I too am jewish, still I stand by my statement that religion, all religion is evil that binds humanity to continued violence.

The only difference between a jew and an arab is religion. Askanizi jews and Saudi's are so genetically similar as to share certain very specific genetic diseases.

LelikG

If you read above , I mentioned that I am not religious..

Jews are a nation... Like americans, canadians, etc.. etc..

LelikG

This thread was not about Israel - Palestine who is right...

This thread's purpose was to open the eyes of some people to a way to stop terrorism!
many ways to do it, which one is the best? Here's one...

Joe Citizen

Okay, how do we stop American and Israeli terrorism?

Theo

You committed big mistake. Do you prefer honest opinions or pity and fake feelings? Sympathy alone doesn't get you far. Past decades proved it.

reynold

It will start from us.......

Roger

That's how you stop terrorism? Blow things up? Nope, never been attempted before by countries such as Russia or Israel

We go to there countries, stick our noses in there politics and sometimes blow up shit and take over there countries. Just like you wanna unleash hell on every living fucker they wanna do the same to and they love to die doing it. You think they should just forgive us for supporting Ben Laden and Saddam?

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Roger

Are you nuts? Sharon is a criminal and was member of a terrorist organisation. Israel itself is founded on religion and was created thanks to terrorism. Israel ain't a democracy, it's a Jewish state meaning that there's no way in hell you're gonna allow people from any other religion to have a majority vote in that country.

mule

They feel exactly the same about you, idiot.

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LelikG

Clown

LelikG

Umm, everything you said is wrong... Please think next time.

LelikG

Well they don't have nukes do they? besides we were there first

LelikG

Again, thats why we have the strong army that we do... It's small, yet effective, in ensuring the security of Israel.

Israel does not commit acts of terrorism. Israel is a sovereign state, a democracy, ruled by the people, and has a right to ensure the security of it's citizens at any cost, because that's what a country is for - to provide security for it's people and to defend them from hostile forces such as terrorists. If that means banishing families of terrorists, then let it happen. I don't care what happens to the families of terrorists, they can all blow each other up shrivel and die, and get their bodies pissed on by pigs and horses.

What angers me the most, are all the liberal "goody two-shoes" people who want "world peace" and don't get past their own noses to realize that while they are waving a white flag , they are being shot at and pissed upon... If you want to walk into the line of fire and get shot and pissed upon thats your choice, but don't drag perfectly innocent people into the fire, and do not act as if you are fucking saints.

most important thing: talking to israelis - you have a common language, and an ear to listen to... Try to go to Ramalla - you'll get shot...

LelikG

They had their chance to live together in peace in 1947 ... They started a war and fucking lost it, and lost all the consecutive ones? Enough is fucking enough..

Roger

Maybe you should stop living in a lie.

Theo

obviously you have effective solved the problem and there's nothing more to talk about

have a nice day

LelikG

I wonder, why do so many people want to come to live in the USA, and not in Afghanistan? Is it because the USA is a terrorist country??

Israel is not the only victim of terrorism... Many of you seen it with your own eyes in New York, Madrid, and more to come unless the world wakes up and realizes that if it werent for the USA , most of europe would be talking German now ( twice ).


Ask yourselves these questions:

Do you justify terrorism or don't you ? Is the killing of thousands of random people in your country justified by whatever actions the USA takes overseas??? Is something that happened in Medieval Times ( crusades ) a good enough excuse to blow something up? Is Bin Laden a pyromaniac ??? Why was Israel attacked by Iraq during the Gulf War I ?
And finally, If it was you or anyone of your loved ones in that bus/train/burning building, what would you say ?

reynold

ummmm, I think we have to act as one.

LelikG

And start living a dream?

Roger

Once again, Israel is no democracy. Obviously it has failed to ensure the security of it's citizens.
In short, you complain about terrorism yet you sure seem as bloodthirsty as they are. Where else can you see families punished for a crime that one member of a family commits? North Korea

No, you're the ones getting shot at, not us. Keep having fun. How many decades it's been already?

LelikG

Israel is not a democracy? And I'm living a lie???

Theo

for the record

im greek and our parliament members went unprotected to Palestine last time you attempted to kill Arafat. Nobody shoted them.

LelikG

Remember 9/11 ?

Roger

Aren't you already doing that with that whole holly land concept that you like to kill for?

LelikG

Too bad they didn't hang Arafat from his neck.