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Old 03-15-2004, 02:24 PM   #1
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I wish I could walk into Air Canada's President's office and ......

I wish i could walk into air canada's president's office and PISS all over him and his desk.

First class to cancun.

on the way there - one layover. Both times I sat beside air canada employees. i asked them, they pointed out on both planes more than half of the people in 1st class were employees of air canada. Wonder why they're going bankrupt???

going home I had seat 2a. the stewardess asks me to move to 4d so a family can sit together - ok - no real difference in first class seats - so i move. they sit me beside someone's whinning crying 2 year old. better yet - it's a family of air canada employees - yep - flying free. I wasn't impressed.

it gets better. then i get redlined at customs - ok, that happens - and I'm late for my next plane. I get to it - no first class even though I've PAID full fair for it, and i get a MIDDLE seat at the VERY back of the FULL plane.


oh and guess who one of the 2 people I was sitting beside on the last plane was....yup - an air canada employee.
does ANYONE besides me ever pay for their flight with air canada?????????????????????
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Old 03-15-2004, 02:34 PM   #2
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Hey Sleazy....

Sorry about the flight situation....that sucks. AirCanada's notorious incompetence coming to light once again. It's beyond me how it is that you paid for a first class ticket, made it to the plane on time, but that they had given away your seat.

For what it's worth...here's the contact info for AirCanada for Customer Solutions. Tell them that if they don't refund you the difference you're going to contact the Consumer Protection Agency. Complain your ass off....you can only send complaints by fax or mail.

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Fax: 1-866-584-0380 (403) 569-5333

Good luck hon....
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Sleazy, I paid for a seat on an Air Canada flight and had no problems with the seating.
Of course they lost my luggage for 3.5 days and only gave me $100 credit, but that is a different matter
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wow does that ever suck. i would be just as pissed off sleazy. definitely follow through with a complaint.

fucking air canada.
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Zebra.....you mean you actually got the luggage BACK?!!!

You lucky freakin bastard......they lost mine on the way down to the Vegas show last year (2003). Never saw it again and the max they'd compensate me was only about 1/3 the value of what was in the bag. Oh....and that took about 4 months....
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Air Canada has been a very poorly run organization for quite a while.

I very rarely hear about someone being happy with their Air Canada experience.
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I had a cousin that worked for Air Canada, and she told me that employees can fly anywhere AC flies to for a flat rate of $19.00

Yet, I want a fucking flight from Ottawa to Toronto and it's $700.00 return. yeahh...
Ive never been on AC flight that was not delayed.

i know what your going through...
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Old 03-15-2004, 02:51 PM   #9
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hahaha isnt that the truth. its always employees.
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That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Giving preference to employees and their family versus a paying first class customer? Absolutely absurd. No wonder they're in horrible shape business-wise.

PS: Sleazy, definitely go after them for the leg of the flight that was not first class. You paid a significant premium for that luxury and you got deprived of it. It's your right to get it back.

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You are right Sleazy Im flying with them every few weeks because i have to. Its one of the worst airlaines in the modern world.
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Thats why cool people like me fly gulfstreams

And fat dumb fucks like you fly cheaptickets.com
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I don't fly with air canada for reasons just like that.
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Old 03-15-2004, 03:21 PM   #15
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I don't fly with air canada for reasons just like that.
if you want to fly executive/first class within Canada, there is no other option. they have a monopoly on first class domestically.

flying outside Canada though, i avoid them like the plague.
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I wish i could walk into air canada's president's office and PISS all over him and his desk.

First class to cancun.

on the way there - one layover. Both times I sat beside air canada employees. i asked them, they pointed out on both planes more than half of the people in 1st class were employees of air canada. Wonder why they're going bankrupt???

going home I had seat 2a. the stewardess asks me to move to 4d so a family can sit together - ok - no real difference in first class seats - so i move. they sit me beside someone's whinning crying 2 year old. better yet - it's a family of air canada employees - yep - flying free. I wasn't impressed.

it gets better. then i get redlined at customs - ok, that happens - and I'm late for my next plane. I get to it - no first class even though I've PAID full fair for it, and i get a MIDDLE seat at the VERY back of the FULL plane.


oh and guess who one of the 2 people I was sitting beside on the last plane was....yup - an air canada employee.
does ANYONE besides me ever pay for their flight with air canada?????????????????????
This is NOTHING compared to what wild-cat went thru to go to vegas ... So much bullshit and lines to do ... and customs 2 times almost making her strip in front of everybody . I got like 2 calls from custom from 2 different places. fucked up shit.

Bush really fucked flying ! It's impossible to get anywhere without a problem nowdays
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that sucks Sleazy.. btw.. good seein' ya...


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Bush really fucked flying ! It's impossible to get anywhere without a problem nowdays

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sorry but that is the dumbest thing i've heard...

thats right up there with Al Gore inventing the internet..
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I never paid to fly Air Canada. My Uncle works there and used to get me family passes. They nuked that after 9-11 to just immediate family.
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Hey Sleazy....

Sorry about the flight situation....that sucks. AirCanada's notorious incompetence coming to light once again. It's beyond me how it is that you paid for a first class ticket, made it to the plane on time, but that they had given away your seat.

For what it's worth...here's the contact info for AirCanada for Customer Solutions. Tell them that if they don't refund you the difference you're going to contact the Consumer Protection Agency. Complain your ass off....you can only send complaints by fax or mail.

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PO Box 64239,
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Fax: 1-866-584-0380 (403) 569-5333

Good luck hon....
I would seriously Bitch to them That's fucking retarded!!!!
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Bush really fucked flying ! It's impossible to get anywhere without a problem nowdays
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Can somebody please explain to me how an essential service that is nearly a monopoly, can go bankrupt?
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Sleazy, you need one of these.
you can sit with the pilots relatives then...
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wow does that ever suck. i would be just as pissed off sleazy. definitely follow through with a complaint.

fucking air canada.
fuck a complaint, i would demand a refund or do a chargeback. he paid for something they didnt deliver.
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Sleazy,

I don't understand why your bitching...again.

So, a few employees are the flight...are they not aloud to go on vacation?? They have to fly stand-by and if the plane is full with only a few remaining open seats they get placed in them, being buisness class (Air Canada doesn't have first class, they may on 747's) or coach. Employees also don't fly for free...they get a crazy discount but it's not free, they pay by the kilometre and the taxes which is then automatically pay roll deducted.

Air Canada is surely a Monopoly and is having major finacial problems but the government will never shut down (the only) a national carrier.

The only thing I can understand why you'd be mad is the part when you said you arrived late to the flight because of customs (not the airlines fault) and they gave your seat away, if it happened like that. You have the right to find out if there are any employees in buisness class and you can bump them to the back of the plane.

All said in done, suck it up and quite your bitchin'.
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This is NOTHING compared to what wild-cat went thru to go to vegas ... So much bullshit and lines to do ... and customs 2 times almost making her strip in front of everybody . I got like 2 calls from custom from 2 different places. fucked up shit.

Bush really fucked flying ! It's impossible to get anywhere without a problem nowdays
OK-seriously-what in the World did President Bush have to do with how screwed up Air Canada is? And how did he "fuck flying", because trying to protect the public from launatics like the ones who flew the planes into the trade center and Pentagon?

Give me a break. I personally dont mind spending the extra time at the airport or customs to know that the plane is that much safer. I too was just searched 3 times on my way back from Montreal-who cares? the guy next to you getting searched could be the next ATTA.
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I wish i could walk into air canada's president's office and PISS all over him and his desk.

First class to cancun.

on the way there - one layover. Both times I sat beside air canada employees. i asked them, they pointed out on both planes more than half of the people in 1st class were employees of air canada. Wonder why they're going bankrupt???

going home I had seat 2a. the stewardess asks me to move to 4d so a family can sit together - ok - no real difference in first class seats - so i move. they sit me beside someone's whinning crying 2 year old. better yet - it's a family of air canada employees - yep - flying free. I wasn't impressed.

it gets better. then i get redlined at customs - ok, that happens - and I'm late for my next plane. I get to it - no first class even though I've PAID full fair for it, and i get a MIDDLE seat at the VERY back of the FULL plane.


oh and guess who one of the 2 people I was sitting beside on the last plane was....yup - an air canada employee.
does ANYONE besides me ever pay for their flight with air canada?????????????????????
And on the real topic of this thread-go get em! they are on Demaisoneuve in Montreal right by the Vendome Metro
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Give me a break. I personally dont mind spending the extra time at the airport or customs to know that the plane is that much safer. I too was just searched 3 times on my way back from Montreal-who cares? the guy next to you getting searched could be the next ATTA.
I do mind it, that's why I'm limiting my flights to a strict minimum, can't stand the security and all the waiting. Terrorists don't scare me, they're not gonna stop me from flying but waiting and getting searched as if I was a criminal, no thanks. Call me crazy, but hey that's how I am.

And most of all I hate the customs who think it's cool to charge you for products you bought from another country. Bunch of thieves.

Besides, what kind of idiot terrorists is gonna attempt the same thing again? Do they really think people are gonna buy there story about it being a simple hijacking this time? Why risk failure when you can hit a much easier target?

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sounds like fun sleazy. im sure they will give u a refund if u write a nice long letter detailing that you are a regular traveller.
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I do mind it, that's why I'm limiting my flights to a strict minimum, can't stand the security and all the waiting. Terrorists don't scare me, they're not gonna stop me from flying but waiting and getting searched as if I was a criminal, no thanks. Call me crazy, but hey that's how I am.

And most of all I hate the customs who think it's cool to charge you for products you bought from another country. Bunch of thieves.
That's the beauty of a free society, you have the choice not to travel.

We are just doing what the Europeans and the rest of the developed world have been doing for ages. Ever been to Heathrow? now there's a treat! Makes Pearson look like dysneyland.
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I do mind it, that's why I'm limiting my flights to a strict minimum, can't stand the security and all the waiting. Terrorists don't scare me, they're not gonna stop me from flying but waiting and getting searched as if I was a criminal, no thanks. Call me crazy, but hey that's how I am.

And most of all I hate the customs who think it's cool to charge you for products you bought from another country. Bunch of thieves.

Besides, what kind of idiot terrorists is gonna attempt the same thing again? Do they really think people are gonna buy there story about it being a simple hijacking this time? Why risk failure when you can hit a much easier target?
so take the bus . . . . every country has import duties as far as I know, and you have been spoiled by the lack of security at US airports in the past. Learn to adapt, or stay home . . . or better yet, move. I am sure Israeli airports have very lax security precautions there
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Give me a break. I personally dont mind spending the extra time at the airport or customs to know that the plane is that much safer. I too was just searched 3 times on my way back from Montreal-who cares? the guy next to you getting searched could be the next ATTA.
This topic has been beaten to death in rec.travel.air by people who have a clue.

Fact is, the highjackers used weapons like box cutters.

Your intelligence failed huge.

The correct procedure is that the cabin door remains securred.

Not rocket science.

You 'mericans seem to want to spend billions on hi-tech this, and hi-tech that, and 100's of billions on WMD, to fight people using knives, AK-47s and shoulder missle launchers. There bombs are made of nails and fertilizer.

All the airport security is a charade.

The Bush administration is using the fear of the 'merican people to do what they would not be able to do, with a rational constituancy.

You don't need to spend a few trillions on hi-tech WMD and fancy security.

You need to spend a couple of 100 million on decent intelligence.

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so take the bus . . . . every country has import duties as far as I know, and you have been spoiled by the lack of security at US airports in the past. Learn to adapt, or stay home . . . or better yet, move. I am sure Israeli airports have very lax security precautions there
Every country has them but the Canadian ones are the ones charging me when I get back from vacation.

Why should I learn to adapt? They're the ones who'll be loosing money. I'm just gonna have to stay in the country as long as there's nothing urgent for me to travel to and take the train if I wanna travel to another province.
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We are just doing what the Europeans and the rest of the developed world have been doing for ages. Ever been to Heathrow? now there's a treat! Makes Pearson look like dysneyland.
Doesn't matter what the others are doing, I'm used to the way things are done around here and I was very comfortable with it.
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Old 03-15-2004, 06:11 PM   #42
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Just be grateful they didn't charge you for 2 seats

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Old 03-15-2004, 08:33 PM   #43
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Sorry to hear about your misfortune.
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Old 03-15-2004, 08:57 PM   #44
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they evidently didn't know, you're the ELITE!
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Old 03-15-2004, 08:57 PM   #45
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Old 03-15-2004, 09:05 PM   #46
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Go fight for your rights. You should have been treated better than that. I would go with you to the presidents office, let's do the pissing together. Hahaha
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Old 03-17-2004, 06:39 PM   #47
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Thats why cool people like me fly gulfstreams

And fat dumb fucks like you fly cheaptickets.com
Sleazy, I think you were right about drugs warping this creep's mind....his trash talk gets more detached from reality by the day.
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Old 03-17-2004, 06:56 PM   #48
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Sleazy,

I don't understand why your bitching...again.

So, a few employees are the flight...are they not aloud to go on vacation?? They have to fly stand-by and if the plane is full with only a few remaining open seats they get placed in them, being buisness class (Air Canada doesn't have first class, they may on 747's) or coach. Employees also don't fly for free...they get a crazy discount but it's not free, they pay by the kilometre and the taxes which is then automatically pay roll deducted.

Air Canada is surely a Monopoly and is having major finacial problems but the government will never shut down (the only) a national carrier.

The only thing I can understand why you'd be mad is the part when you said you arrived late to the flight because of customs (not the airlines fault) and they gave your seat away, if it happened like that. You have the right to find out if there are any employees in buisness class and you can bump them to the back of the plane.

All said in done, suck it up and quite your bitchin'.
God damnit, learn how to FUCKING SPELL.
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Old 03-17-2004, 07:09 PM   #49
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Holy shit Sleazy that sucks big balls.
Damn hope you didn't get fucked up on the last night like you said you would. Might have been an uncomfortable trip....

I'd defo fucking complain big time!
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Old 03-17-2004, 07:13 PM   #50
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Thats why cool people like me fly gulfstreams

And fat dumb fucks like you fly cheaptickets.com
i doubt you even know what a gulfstream looks like
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