Lets move all shave talk to a new thread eh.

I want Garry to be able to get on with his life.

I believe that he will have a good look around GFY and see what
needs to be changed and MPA3 will be a kickass program. There
are many threads with many great suggestions for his program.
He's just added new support and programming staff while
changing some of the old guard and there is now a support BBS
where people can discuss the program. From my experience
having this kind of setup really keeps you on your toes and
informed with what users are thinking.

I hope everything goes well for you Garry, I didn't mean to cause
such a fuss and I've tried to keep discussion relating to
SpyDollars new setup and not focus too much on the past.

Lets just agree to disagree. I think you'll find that when MPA3 is
released, I'll be one of the first to chime in saying how much I like
the changes. Not to say "I told you so" or referrer to the past,
but to give you a pat on the back for turning it all around.

-Ben

Just because it's known that ' MPA 2 ' has a built in
shave feature doesn't mean that EVERY FUCKING PROGRAM
using it shaves!

Why do we pay $30 per join ? Cuz' our retention, recurring
will allow us to profit at $30 per join without needing
to shave anyone or anything.. maybe just my face :-)

I can bet big $$$$ that nearly any program paying
more then $40 per join is shaving!

If they aren't then they are loosing money!

Do the math, read the facts!


My :2 cents:

I'm starting to think Mansion want to keep this alive....

They must have made a few signups from the publicity.

I'm also starting to think that maybe they aren't listening afterall
and maybe they think they can ignore what the market demands.

Guys.... move on.... Show us a great product with no shaving and
better support for MPA3 and then come back and we'll talk some
more.

-Ben

the temptation is there....

First point, i agree. Just because it's there in MPA2 and a fucking idiot can do it, it doesn't mean that any program will use it.

But I'd also say that programs shave to make up for thier own incompetencies OR greed and that 's NOT uncommon.

ALSO

That magical $40 figure is not set in stone by any means, it's linked with the quality of the program.

i think mpa2 needs a good shaking up.. I was told by them that they "dont and never plan on" supporting epoch oneclick transactions. I mean... seriously. its not THAT much code to add support. I personally have added it to 5 or 6 programs, and not one of them took over 2 days, and most of them took like 4 hours.

their techs dont know the difference between oneclick (members+) and cross-sales. as a 3rd party developer, many times my emails would go days before being answered with a bewildering lack of knowledge.

good move to get away from them. your life will be less stressful

D

ok it looks to be true.... from what's going on in another thread it
seems that Mansion hates both their customers and the affiliates
of their customers.

I've been called a liar by Garry 10 times in his thread and I have
all the proof I need to show I have in-fact only stated my
experience with them.

-Ben

Check up in Mariush's email. See just how many times I've tried
to get my issues resolved.

Also check your ICQ logs and see where we talked about the
communication breakdown and how you didn't actually respond
to those parts of my questions. Note how nice I'm being to you? I
really want those answers, so much so I'm kissing ass in the
hope of getting them. I hope this isn't what all customers need to
do in order to get service.

Also check your support ticket system for where I asked a great
deal of very specific questions that were never answered.

Also remember when you told me on the system was 100% ready
to run? Remember how I asked the same question 3 times to be
absolutley sure that we were 100% ready to rock and 100%
tested by Mansion.

You should have never let Garry post.... "I normally do not post
on the boards that much." not a good time to get practice Garry...
He made you look silly with all that garbage customer bashing.

I'll ring you when you are willing to be logical about this. You
should talk to Alien to mediate a little as I?m sure we wouldn?t be
much good on the phone now things are heated, him and me had
a good chat the other night and he has a good idea of my
position. I was willing to let it die, I was willing to let you get
some promo out of it. However you will not get any promotion out
of this if you just want to bump threads which say I'm a liar, I
won't let you make me look bad as I have never lied at any stage
of this conversation. You will make yourself look bad however. I'm
willing to drop the whole thing and let you move on. As I've said,
if I like the changes in MPA3 and can see you've been listening I'll
even come out in a support of the changes which will be good for
you. However if you keep asserting that I have lied in any way
then I'll keep defending myself.

Anyone reading can see this is not how customers should be
treated even if they are unhappy and have complaints.

-Ben

Gotta remember which order to bump things :-)

-Ben

edit:

hmmm