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We use MPA2 & love it, its a great program and if your using sponsors that don't cascade between different credit card processors will mean you lose 20% of your sales & even more sales are lost if it doesn't auto cascade to online check processing which MPA2 does.

Some very good programs run using MPA2 and the MPA2 staff are kickass now for fixing and correcting any troubles that arrise.

I highly suggest MPA2 to anyone wanting a solid program with good support.

Cheers

Matthew
Wildcash.com

nice shill....

Anyone for a game of Three Card Monte?

-Ben

fuck you tard, their support is fuckin brutal and it has more bugs than a fucking crack house on the lower east side of town:321GFY

I won't even begin to post what Oystein called
me in an email, let's just say HIGHLY UNPROFESSIONAL.

However, Garry has been pleasant to work with.

He puts this on all his emails to me now.

THIS EMAIL IS INTENDED SOLELY FOR THE PERSONS TO WHOM IT
IS ADDRESSED. PLEASE DO NOT FORWARD OR DISTRIBUTE IN ANY
WAY WITHOUT PERMISSION. IF YOU RECEIVED THIS EMAIL IN
ERROR, PLEASE CALL MANSION PRODUCTIONS AT THE ABOVE
NUMBER TO ARRANGE SECURE DESTRUCTION.

So I can't even tell you.

-Ben

Ben,

Long time no see man :)

Todd

then dont bitch when your software is turned off.

I have no problem with Mansion turning off the script as this was
my request. At the time I wasn't aware the invoice hadn't yet
been paid and was hoping that Mansion would see fit to give our
affiliates a number of days to change their links.

This is in no way the reason why we stopped using MPA2. I
believe the reason for this invoice not being paid is that the
accounts department was holding the payment to see if Mansion
would got their act together. They had at various stages ignored
repeated support tickets and emails. I wasn't aware that the bill
hadn't been paid however I'm glad this was the case as it saves
us hassle of having to chargeback. It was my recommendation to
the site owner that we either request a refund or chargeback.

The reason we are not using MPA2 is the poor support, lack
of features and woeful attitude directed at customers . It was at
my request that we ceased use of MPA2 and this once again had
nothing to do with payment or any pressure from Mansions to
pay.

-Ben

Hey Todd!

Indeed it's been a long time!

You hang-out on IRC anywhere now-a-days?

-Ben

50 reasons to pick ccbill

we were just about to signup let me think a zillion yrs again :) ccbill it is !

Thank you Matthew - appreciate that!

It is good to see webmasters with economic backing and a solid technical foundation be successful in this industry

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

haha I like how Oystein tries to suggest that it's due to my
incompetence and lack of money.

This is his usual tack. Rather than looking at the problems and
trying to come up with solutions that make his company easier to
deal with and his software better. He'd rather blame the client.

Hospitals would be a great business without the patients eh Oystein? :-)

You have no idea how much money is behind us. :-)

I think those that know me will tell you that it's beyond a doubt
that I have more programming experience and write code of a
much higher standard then those people that coded MPA2. :-)

So you've got 1 happy shill? Just 1? I have a nice list of unhappy
MPA2 customers emails here if you'd like to ask them what they
think.

-Ben

I second that...

As if no other program has a shaving feature built in whether you use it or not....

If you do then why did you go with MPA2 in the first place?

I don't think this is why the majority of people have a problem with it.

their bugs are not that big that make it not worthwhile using their system...

Many programs use mpa2 and I have not seen big bugs that made the script impossible to work with except maybe 2-3 very small bugs that they fixed

If you followed up on the reading of the recent mpa2 threads you will see of course the shaving is the major reason
a lot of people believe everything they hear and think no other program shaves...yea right lol :1orglaugh

those with really really high quality sites can afford to pay $35 per signup without shaving but it isn't that easy to do even then which is why many of those with $35-40 rates having REAL shitty sites shave big time and thats the webmasters fault because they tend to go for programs with largest PPS rates and just now starting to VERY SLOWLY realize that PPS rate is not everything but the amount of money you end up with after 10000 clicks or whatever

My recommendation was that I code cascading myself. However
time isn't always on hand and at that stage MPA2 seemed the
easier option although I was always suspect on the lack of
features it presented.

I must say the code itself isn't very buggy. As far as bugs the
closest thing is processor changes and things like that. These can
leave holes in the system that affiliates would never really notice.

My main concern was support. I've never once received an
update as to the status of any of our support tickets, emails are
go unanswered or returned with cut & paste responses, and the
time zones which the programmers worked in meant we never
had a chance to discuss our problems with them. The first
example of job status not being reported was our initial install
which I only found-out was "complete" (hardly) after contacting
Mansion to find-out what the hell was taking so long. Their
version of a "complete" is one where demo version code is left
in.... oh I could go on but there was just too many problems to
list and too many unanswered emails to go back over.

Regarding not getting status updates.... I have complained about
this in just about every email to them. Instead of fixing the
problem they blame it on me. Seeing the "mass mail" feature in
MPA2 and the way the code for that works I can see their
programmers don't have very much experience with email and
this probably explains why their ticket system doesn't work. But
will they fix it? nope, It's the customers fault always the
customers fault.

-Ben

make sure you add in the stat bug which loves to pop up every week without failure.

i don't quiet follow

can you explain this a little better please? thanks

Ok well you didn't really cover support in your response but I'm sure they're glad they have you on the defence for them.

Now if they just fit the scrubometer they would be perfect
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=254706

I must check out that programe when I visit next week Ben.

they are not asking me to do anything
and as for their support they do not ignore the tickets unless they did not go through their system for some reason which I doubt happens

Ben please read that thread carefully :winkwink:

ya I admined a program using MPA2 and it was a joke to say the least, weekly issues with not tracking clicks, its really not hard to understand. Go to bed for 6 hours and wake up to 15 icq windows asking why stats are fucked for the last 5 hours, it was weekly without failure. They have plenty of bugs that need to be addressed.

I dont see this happening with any of the many successful programs using mpa2

I do not work for them in any way but simply giving my opinion on things

yes, yes the customer is always wrong. sorry i forgot. BTW, I never said they were asking you to 'do' anything. I was just pointing out that you are very agressive in your defence of them.

yes because I don't see these problems with other programs that use them

a few out of the many maybe which could be you in this case :(

sounds pretty unprofessional of mpa

You have insight into the behind the scenes operations and admin / programming of many of the successful programs using mpa2?

You must be the most trusted troll in the business.

Lemme give you a hint... if a program is having technical difficulties on a weekly basis, they tend to not let all of their affiliates know it. It's bad for business.

Well, perhaps you can atleast accept that;

1) It's NOT perfect.
2) Other people DO find problems with it. (including support)
3) Just because you don't see a problem, it DOES'NT mean it's not there.

Nah only the ones that aren't game to start fully promoting until
they are sure it actually works. :-)

-Ben

You are right but the webmasters will notice it and if it is a big problem people will know about it

1) nothing is perfect
2) the way it looks like right now some do and some don't...
3) if it is like that you can say that for ANY script

well so far only those programs that actually do know what they are doing are doing well with it

your fuckin clueless go away. I admined a program that had 30k members, ya they have no clue, get fuckin lost TROLL

I am not going to pick a fight here but who is acting unprofessional now??? one out of many and there are always 2 sides to a story so....

Just a word of advice from a stoned observer of this thread.....
don't use this thread to sling shit between the two of you who
are involved.....it won't benefit either of you no matter who's
right or wrong.....take my word for it.....

For some reason the user is not satisfied with the service and
therefor ends the business relation.....keep it profesional and
move on.....what might be good for you does not automatically
mean it isn't good for others....It's a fact that many other
webmasters are satisfied with MPA2 and it is not for a reason
why they have become so big.......

You end the relation you move on that's what you do when you're
not satisfied.....expressing your dislikes is ok.....but keep it clean
and professional....that will give you far more credit than burning
down a company.....at least that's just my opinion.....and yes I
know opinions are like assholes....everybody has one :2 cents:

The part about not being professional I assume applies to Veterans Day and not me

At least be professional about it
we are not little kids we are working in an adult business here so that makes it even worse :1orglaugh: