PayPal v's EPassporte ?! - GoFuckYourself.com

synapse · 03-16-2004, 06:45 PM

With all the complaints and frankly the shabby way PayPal has treated the Adult Industry why aren't more people using EPassporte ?! .... now I'm refering to B2B here ie. paying for content, advertising, hosting and other services etc.

I made the switch when the PayPal dramas first happened and haven't been happier in terms of being able to transfer funds and withdraw them via my epassporte card at the local atm.

So why aren't more people using them for busienss purposes ?!

(btw not an ad and i'm not affiliated with 'em apart from being a customer)

teenoffice · 03-16-2004, 06:48 PM

paypal is something like microsoft

epassporte > netscape

liquidmoe · 03-16-2004, 06:50 PM

Paypal has a larger market share for the time being so its just easier to use because the chances of people having a paypal account are better.

sandman! · 03-16-2004, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by synapse
With all the complaints and frankly the shabby way PayPal has treated the Adult Industry why aren't more people using EPassporte ?! .... now I'm refering to B2B here ie. paying for content, advertising, hosting and other services etc.

I made the switch when the PayPal dramas first happened and haven't been happier in terms of being able to transfer funds and withdraw them via my epassporte card at the local atm.

So why aren't more people using them for busienss purposes ?!

(btw not an ad and i'm not affiliated with 'em apart from being a customer)

i dont trust epassporte wont ever use them.

synapse · 03-16-2004, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by sandman!

i dont trust epassporte wont ever use them.

why is that ?

Jen69 · 03-16-2004, 06:54 PM

Fuck Paypal!!!! them bastards....i will never use them again......

teenoffice · 03-16-2004, 06:59 PM

PayPal rocks the only point is that they kick fucktards out of their system never had any problems with them doing already buisiness with their system for a long time on different markets.

synapse · 03-16-2004, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by Jen69
Fuck Paypal!!!! them bastards....i will never use them again......

lol ... while I whole heartedly agree, I and I assume others of you'all out there now find it next to impossible to even use PayPal because my details have been tied up in the now suspended business account for 6 months ... grrrrr

synapse · 03-16-2004, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by teenoffice
PayPal rocks the only point is that they kick fucktards out of their system ...

How can u say that ?! ... Our account was suspended simply because we're in what they term to be the Adult business, we had over 5,000 transactions with them with a total of 4 complaints, ever!

The only people I know who are in the Adult biz and still selling memberships through PayPal are doing such a low volume it doesn't register on their radar ... or am I wrong ?

teenoffice · 03-16-2004, 07:10 PM

youre probably right at least i wont leave 5k in my paypal account that''s just my opinion (easy money for every company) but after all i have nothing to complain.

Epassporte has an much higher rate for merchant buiz. And PayPal is merged with Ebay so what else do you want.

Ebay is gold

raymor · 03-16-2004, 07:45 PM

It does seem like more and more people are using ePassporte.
There are several guys for whom I do "conversions",
accepting payments for them via Paypal and paying them
via ePassporte or vice versa, so the subject is of interest to me.

Broda · 03-16-2004, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by raymor
It does seem like more and more people are using ePassporte.
There are several guys for whom I do "conversions",
accepting payments for them via Paypal and paying them
via ePassporte or vice versa, so the subject is of interest to me.

isn't that risky business?

Nicky · 03-16-2004, 07:56 PM

epassporte rules very much compared to paypal......

Kimmykim · 03-16-2004, 08:06 PM

ePassporte is probably not for everyone... after all, nothing is.

However if you are looking for a system that doesn't mind adult, hell, actually likes the adult marketplace, has faces you know from being in the industry behind it, supporting it and associated with it, then you might want to look into it.

If you need help or questions answered, then by all means, let me know -- [email protected] -- if you just want to bitch about how you wouldn't use us if the cow jumped over the moon and a meteor hit you in the back of the head and knocked you silly, then this is the forum in which to express those thoughts, I'll delete them from email ;-}}}}

Paul Markham · 03-16-2004, 10:31 PM

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So why aren't more people using them for busienss purposes ?!

A very good question.

We were with Paypal until they kicked us out and are with Epassporte. The difference in service and market penetration is amazing.

Firstly Paypal was easier to sign up to, secondly it was easier to use, third it was first. I'm not sure whether it is still expensive to us for the buyer, they used to charge $5 for every $50 loaded to your account.

For us the biggest problem is they will not send a confirmation email that a buyer has paid, so on every order we have to go to their site, not the simplest to use, and see if the payment was made. In a lot of cases is not, but they are getting fewer.

When I asked them about this at the Florida show there answer was that some people are getting 100 sign ups a day and do not want all those email. When I replied the emails could be opt in they did not bother to answer.

Yes Epassporte is not for everyone, but only 3-4 % of what we used to do on Paypal, shows it could be for a lot more.

digifan · 03-16-2004, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by sandman!

i dont trust epassporte wont ever use them.

Epassporte rules, paypal banned adult.

Brujah · 03-16-2004, 11:51 PM

Doesn't epassporte cost money everytime you cough ? Can someone list a breakdown of all the charges involved ?

digifan · 03-17-2004, 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Doesn't epassporte cost money everytime you cough ? Can someone list a breakdown of all the charges involved ?

Go to the site, pick epassporte personal as an option and here you go:
FEES OF EPASSPORTE PERSONAL ACCOUNT
ePassporte Virtual Visa Amount
Virtual Card Activation Fee FREE
Virtual Visa Annual Fee FREE the first year and $5 each subsequent year
Load/Reload Fee $5 per $100 or portion thereof
Peer-to-Peer Transfer Fee 25 cents (Five transactions a day, and then $1 per transaction for each subsequent transaction in the same day)
ePassporte Electron Visa Amount
Electron Card Issuance Fee $35
Electron Card Annual Fee $35
ATM Fee $2

Brujah · 03-17-2004, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by digifan

Go to the site, pick epassporte personal as an option and here you go:
FEES OF EPASSPORTE PERSONAL ACCOUNT
ePassporte Virtual Visa Amount
Virtual Card Activation Fee FREE
Virtual Visa Annual Fee FREE the first year and $5 each subsequent year
Load/Reload Fee $5 per $100 or portion thereof
Peer-to-Peer Transfer Fee 25 cents (Five transactions a day, and then $1 per transaction for each subsequent transaction in the same day)
ePassporte Electron Visa Amount
Electron Card Issuance Fee $35
Electron Card Annual Fee $35
ATM Fee $2

Thanks.
So if I set one up, and load $500 on it.. it'll cost me $25 load fee, and $35 if I want the electron card for a total of $60.

Then if I send $300 to someone, it's 25 cents or is it more ?

Then a yearly fee of $40 ( electron card + virtual fee ).

To receive say $ from a sponsor, it's a $2.00 flat fee ?

Anything else you can think of ?

digifan · 03-17-2004, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah

Thanks.
So if I set one up, and load $500 on it.. it'll cost me $25 load fee, and $35 if I want the electron card for a total of $60.

Then if I send $300 to someone, it's 25 cents or is it more ?

Then a yearly fee of $40 ( electron card + virtual fee ).

To receive say $ from a sponsor, it's a $2.00 flat fee ?

Anything else you can think of ?

You can sign up with sponsors who set your card up for free.

If you make the signups, you don't pay a dime for receiving the $$$.

The electron card is not a must since you can wire your income to your bank account.

If you send money now that's 25 cents indeed.

So I think it is a pretty cool option being adult friendly

synapse · 03-17-2004, 02:12 AM

charly ... i *compleatly* agree that there are feature and function improvements that could be made with their offering (hell which one of our sites couldn't be made better

) ... but i can also appreciate it's a time issue ... now all this said we could be let down and they might just sit on the product which means it'll die

savas · 03-17-2004, 02:21 AM

for webmasters from forgein countries is epassporte better. because paypal doesn't support all counties in europe. and epassporte can be used by everybody on this planed.

johnbosh · 03-17-2004, 02:23 AM

epassporte certainy

synapse · 03-17-2004, 02:27 AM

Savas,

From both my personal experience and our members experience it's do'able but definetly not a smooth process, my understanding is that yes just about everybody could get an account, but if your out side of the USA it can prove to be a pain in the ass because of their account statement pin / currency conversion approval process basically doesn't translate cleanly overseas and then the only means a potential buyer is left with is manual verification via fax *shudders* ... so yes it's a good last resort for all overseas traffic but could be better.

Paul Markham · 03-17-2004, 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by synapse
charly ... i *compleatly* agree that there are feature and function improvements that could be made with their offering (hell which one of our sites couldn't be made better ) ... but i can also appreciate it's a time issue ... now all this said we could be let down and they might just sit on the product which means it'll die

What amazed me when I spoke to them was their reluctance to admit it needed changing. But as you said they change or the die.

Picking a personal account will not work for a lot of B2B.

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synapse · 03-17-2004, 02:58 AM

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Originally posted by ListYourPorn
check us out folks - www.nochex.com

but you only deal with UK debit cards ?! ... don't get me wrong the UK for us represents almost 30% of our transactions but for any webmaster it's alot of work to go to to just bill one country ?!

xxxads · 03-17-2004, 12:31 PM

iKobo.com is the way too go! Fuck PayPay and ePassporte! PayPal SUCKS! and ePassporte has way too many fucking high fees for everything!! IMO

Slick · 03-17-2004, 12:34 PM

How about Yahoo's service ?

http://paydirect.yahoo.com/

03-16-2004, 06:45 PM	#1
synapse NameNetwork.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,175	PayPal v's EPassporte ?! With all the complaints and frankly the shabby way PayPal has treated the Adult Industry why aren't more people using EPassporte ?! .... now I'm refering to B2B here ie. paying for content, advertising, hosting and other services etc. I made the switch when the PayPal dramas first happened and haven't been happier in terms of being able to transfer funds and withdraw them via my epassporte card at the local atm. So why aren't more people using them for busienss purposes ?! (btw not an ad and i'm not affiliated with 'em apart from being a customer)

03-16-2004, 06:50 PM	#3
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03-16-2004, 07:45 PM	#11
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	It does seem like more and more people are using ePassporte. There are several guys for whom I do "conversions", accepting payments for them via Paypal and paying them via ePassporte or vice versa, so the subject is of interest to me. __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

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Nicky Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,070	epassporte rules very much compared to paypal...... __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

03-16-2004, 06:48 PM	#2
teenoffice Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 415	paypal is something like microsoft epassporte > netscape

03-16-2004, 06:59 PM	#7
teenoffice Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 415	PayPal rocks the only point is that they kick fucktards out of their system never had any problems with them doing already buisiness with their system for a long time on different markets.

03-16-2004, 07:10 PM	#10
teenoffice Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 415	youre probably right at least i wont leave 5k in my paypal account that''s just my opinion (easy money for every company) but after all i have nothing to complain. Epassporte has an much higher rate for merchant buiz. And PayPal is merged with Ebay so what else do you want. Ebay is gold

03-16-2004, 08:06 PM	#14
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	ePassporte is probably not for everyone... after all, nothing is. However if you are looking for a system that doesn't mind adult, hell, actually likes the adult marketplace, has faces you know from being in the industry behind it, supporting it and associated with it, then you might want to look into it. If you need help or questions answered, then by all means, let me know -- [email protected] -- if you just want to bitch about how you wouldn't use us if the cow jumped over the moon and a meteor hit you in the back of the head and knocked you silly, then this is the forum in which to express those thoughts, I'll delete them from email ;-}}}}

03-16-2004, 11:51 PM	#17
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Doesn't epassporte cost money everytime you cough ? Can someone list a breakdown of all the charges involved ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

03-17-2004, 02:12 AM	#21
synapse NameNetwork.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,175	charly ... i compleatly agree that there are feature and function improvements that could be made with their offering (hell which one of our sites couldn't be made better ) ... but i can also appreciate it's a time issue ... now all this said we could be let down and they might just sit on the product which means it'll die

03-17-2004, 02:21 AM	#22
savas Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,045	for webmasters from forgein countries is epassporte better. because paypal doesn't support all counties in europe. and epassporte can be used by everybody on this planed.

03-17-2004, 02:23 AM	#23
johnbosh Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands, Rotterdam Posts: 8,965	epassporte certainy

03-17-2004, 02:27 AM	#24
synapse NameNetwork.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,175	Savas, From both my personal experience and our members experience it's do'able but definetly not a smooth process, my understanding is that yes just about everybody could get an account, but if your out side of the USA it can prove to be a pain in the ass because of their account statement pin / currency conversion approval process basically doesn't translate cleanly overseas and then the only means a potential buyer is left with is manual verification via fax shudders ... so yes it's a good last resort for all overseas traffic but could be better.

03-17-2004, 02:52 AM	#26
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03-17-2004, 12:31 PM	#28
xxxads Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 39	iKobo.com is the way too go! Fuck PayPay and ePassporte! PayPal SUCKS! and ePassporte has way too many fucking high fees for everything!! IMO __________________ We buy and sell ALL kinds of adult traffic! Call Toll-Free: 1-888-944-1900 ICQ: 331412563

03-17-2004, 12:34 PM	#29
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	How about Yahoo's service ? http://paydirect.yahoo.com/