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Doctor Dre 03-14-2004 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by alexg


it's really sad how people blame all their problems on Israel...
I bet you that I know more then you about my country's history...

have you ever looked at the map? israel is just a small dot among muslim countries, and look what Israel has achieved in it's mere 50+ years of existance, compared to the muslim "tourist attractions".

Oh I was talking about USA history ... my bad I tough you were american.

If Israel would get everything together, it would be one of the strongest country of middle-orient .

Roger 03-14-2004 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by piker
Did something wrong? What did he do wrong? By attacking an Iraq which everyone says isnt't linked to terrorism. But surprise surprise Al Queda does more terrorism on Iraq's behalf. I'm not saying Osama and Hussein are drinking buddies or anything. But they do share one common goal killing innocent people. So how is Bush wrong to stand up to these people? Maybe you can learn something from our great president Mr. Canadian stand up for what you believe. Instead of speaking negatively go out and do something positive. Instead of being part of the problem be part of the solution.
That's the problem, Bush is not standing up to terrorists, he's following the trend and letting the terrorists take over.
Bush thinks he's on a mission from God and he does what God tells him to.

Doctor Dre 03-14-2004 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by alexg


I agree with you that religious countries are bad to the world, but I don't agree that no one is better than the other...
guess which religion is responsible to most terrorism in this world?
you can't argue with facts

Exactly. Christians killed so many mulism ages ago ... And the Church stoped the world from evolution during hundread of years ... Every religion have their good and bad things (I don't think buddah or indouhism have done a lot of wrong things tough).

Doctor Dre 03-14-2004 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by alexg


but the Afghanistan government (untill the US work there) was the Taliban, which was no better then Al Qaeda

The regime was actually almost Al-Qaeda . At least it was supporting them a lot .

alexg 03-14-2004 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Would you say that your views are to the right of Sharon?

No, I say that under the current circumstances he should act differently in certein cases....many Left prime ministers in the past acted much more strictly after suicide bombings then Sharon did in the past couple...

alexg 03-14-2004 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre


The regime was actually almost Al-Qaeda . At least it was supporting them a lot .

exactly

slackologist 03-14-2004 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by alexg


again, it's the lack of knowledge that fools you....
the settlers do not support "SHAS", the religious party which was a member of the coalition...

Ok, well the media over here doesn't always fill us with the truth, as i'm sure it does over there.

Anyway, back on topic, I'm not pro-bin laden, I dont approve of his methods, but I am anti israeli occupation of palestine as are many israelis.

alexg 03-14-2004 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre


Oh I was talking about USA history ... my bad I tough you were american.

If Israel would get everything together, it would be one of the strongest country of middle-orient .

isn't it already?

Doctor Dre 03-14-2004 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by piker


Did something wrong? What did he do wrong? By attacking an Iraq which everyone says isnt't linked to terrorism. But surprise surprise Al Queda does more terrorism on Iraq's behalf. I'm not saying Osama and Hussein are drinking buddies or anything. But they do share one common goal killing innocent people. So how is Bush wrong to stand up to these people? Maybe you can learn something from our great president Mr. Canadian stand up for what you believe. Instead of speaking negatively go out and do something positive. Instead of being part of the problem be part of the solution.

1st : He attaked Iraq and told bullshit facts to do it . He forced other countries to ally and broke the International protocol that was established since WWII for a GOOD reason .

2nd : He is friend with the Saudi Arabia 1st family (bin ladens) and he flew them out on sept 11 . It was more a military attack then anything else .

3rd : He's censoring every media in the united states from speaking agains't him . Compagnies that own medias have big military contracts so they can't speak agaisn't what bush say.

When you tell a lie over and over people start beleiving it .

He lied about nuclear weapons, brought old FBI papers that were updated and weren't worth nothing . A lot of lies that americans ate without any questions.

johnbosh 03-14-2004 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
Pissed off because 11 Israelis died today http://www.iwannacum.com/pointing.jpg
what

slackologist 03-14-2004 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by alexg


No, I say that under the current circumstances he should act differently in certein cases....many Left prime ministers in the past acted much more strictly after suicide bombings then Sharon did in the past couple...

did you ever think that maybe sharon/foriegn pressure is trying to wind down the violence? an eye for an eye is common practice in the middle east as it has been for many generations i dont see that ending anytime soon without genocide.

Doctor Dre 03-14-2004 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by alexg


isn't it already?

It's splitted up . Military it is . But it could become way better . Economicaly, politically and they would become the voice for all the countries arround .

Mr.Fiction 03-14-2004 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by alexg


No, I say that under the current circumstances he should act differently in certein cases....many Left prime ministers in the past acted much more strictly after suicide bombings then Sharon did in the past couple...

I just wanted to understand where you were coming from. I may not agree with you on everything, but at least you aren't some far right wing freak. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images.../xyxthumbs.gif

Roger 03-14-2004 03:28 PM

Arab-Israeli workers in Israel have to wear a red sign to identify them as such. Kinda like what Hitler was doing to the Jews. I believe he made them wear a yellow sign. And for some people, Sharon ain't crazy enough :)

alexg 03-14-2004 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by slackologist


did you ever think that maybe sharon/foriegn pressure is trying to wind down the violence? an eye for an eye is common practice in the middle east as it has been for many generations i dont see that ending anytime soon without genocide.

Israel must fight terrorism. Negotiating with terrorists is not an option. Israel is always open for negotiations if there is a decent leadership on the other side

slackologist 03-14-2004 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by Roger
And for some people, Sharon ain't crazy enough :)
It could be a lot worse than Sharon, and that's very sad.

slackologist 03-14-2004 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by alexg


Israel must fight terrorism. Negotiating with terrorists is not an option. Israel is always open for negotiations if there is a decent leadership on the other side

palestinians see the israeli military/government as terrorists and feel the same way, nice situation, refer back to my other post.

Roger 03-14-2004 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by alexg
Israel must fight terrorism. Negotiating with terrorists is not an option. Israel is always open for negotiations if there is a decent leadership on the other side
No doubt. The PA can no longer stand on it's feet, so what exactly will negotiations bring? PA can't do shit. Israel is occupying Palestine, they're responsible for security. How come they have yet to defeat the terrorists already? It's a big army, don't tell me they're as useless as the PA. The PA only exists by name now.

BlueDesignStudios 03-14-2004 03:41 PM

For a second there.. I thought you guys were going to solve the Arab-Israel conflict within the first 2 pages of this thread :helpme

Roger 03-14-2004 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Exactly. Christians killed so many mulism ages ago ... And the Church stoped the world from evolution during hundread of years ... Every religion have their good and bad things (I don't think buddah or indouhism have done a lot of wrong things tough).
Tibetans are starting to think about terrorism. There's a tibetan guy who wrote a book on the subject. He wants the people to start using terrorism because nobody in the world seems to give a damn about there peacefull protests.

indouhism is bad for indus because one race of indians is judged to be superior to another or something like that. I don't have much info on this subject but I saw parts of a documentary on it and they showed you how bad it can be.

SomeCreep 03-14-2004 03:43 PM

100 pro bin-laden guys moving to Afghanistan :glugglug

Agent White 03-14-2004 03:44 PM

Before this turns into an argument on "what defines religion" and numbers of dead bodies, let's argue over some more iron-clad assumptions:

1. Defending your country (note the word DEFEND) stops at your borders. Just like defending your net in soccer doesn't mean going over to the opposing net and beating the holy crap out of their goalie. Anything else is simply invasion.

2. Not liking Bush's military, economic and foreign policy decisions doesn't mean you are a member of Hamas.

3. If I was taken to court, in the US, for murder, and my testimony was "I heard rumor that my neighbor had a gun and that he might point it at me, so I went to his house, kicked the door down and shot the sweet living fuck out of the place", I would not be found innocent by means of self defense. I would be guilty.


I'm Canadian. I like the US.

I don't like the fact that many US citizens think the French are "bad" for not supporting their weak reason to go to war, but Canada and a majority of other nations didn't support the cause either and we have yet to be berated.

I don't like the fact that the US is in a bubble and most Americans can't find Iraq on a map, or know anything other than what Fox News tells them.

I don't like the fact that nearly 3/4s of Americans think WMDs were found in Iraq.

I don't like the fact that the US Army is using the base at Guantanemo Bay to avoid War Crimes legislation laid out in the Geneva Convention.

Do I think terrorism is wrong? Sure. Does that making any and all means of lying, torturing and invasion justified if it's to "fight terrorism"? No. Is Iraq a part of the "War On Terror?" No. Do many Americans think there is some link between fighting terrorists and the invasion of Iraq? Yes.

Many Americans seem to think that rhetoric and conjecture are ample enough reasoning to justify any action taken by their country, and that all other nations are jealous. When I was at Internext I asked a few Americans what Iraq had to do with terorism. I hear anything from Iraq attacked the twin towers to Osama is part of the Iraqi government. Facts are taking a backseat to patriotism and chauvenism. Anyone that asks for any reasonable justification for proclamations such as "Iraq Supports Terror" are immediately asked why they hate freedom.

In the meantime, American backpackers are still wearing Canadian flags, Obese politicians that lead your country are busy renaming french fries in the capitol cafeteria.

As a reasonable person, wouldn't you find this all a cause for concern?

Enjoy your freedom fries.

Roger 03-14-2004 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
For a second there.. I thought you guys were going to solve the Arab-Israel conflict within the first 2 pages of this thread :helpme
As it stands right now, two nations side-by-side is undoable. No can do. Many are starting to propose the idea of a one nation but for many Israelis, that would defeat the purpose of a Jewish homeland.

I propose one nation with two states. Equal rights, equal representation.

slackologist 03-14-2004 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Agent White
Before this turns into an argument on "what defines religion" and numbers of dead bodies, let's argue over some more iron-clad assumptions:

1. Defending your country (note the word DEFEND) stops at your borders. Just like defending your net in soccer doesn't mean going over to the opposing net and beating the holy crap out of their goalie. Anything else is simply invasion.

2. Not liking Bush's military, economic and foreign policy decisions doesn't mean you are a member of Hamas.

3. If I was taken to court, in the US, for murder, and my testimony was "I heard rumor that my neighbor had a gun and that he might point it at me, so I went to his house, kicked the door down and shot the sweet living fuck out of the place", I would not be found innocent by means of self defense. I would be guilty.


I'm Canadian. I like the US.

I don't like the fact that many US citizens think the French are "bad" for not supporting their weak reason to go to war, but Canada and a majority of other nations didn't support the cause either and we have yet to be berated.

I don't like the fact that the US is in a bubble and most Americans can't find Iraq on a map, or know anything other than what Fox News tells them.

I don't like the fact that nearly 3/4s of Americans think WMDs were found in Iraq.

I don't like the fact that the US Army is using the base at Guantanemo Bay to avoid War Crimes legislation laid out in the Geneva Convention.

Do I think terrorism is wrong? Sure. Does that making any and all means of lying, torturing and invasion justified if it's to "fight terrorism"? No. Is Iraq a part of the "War On Terror?" No. Do many Americans think there is some link between fighting terrorists and the invasion of Iraq? Yes.

Many Americans seem to think that rhetoric and conjecture are ample enough reasoning to justify any action taken by their country, and that all other nations are jealous. When I was at Internext I asked a few Americans what Iraq had to do with terorism. I hear anything from Iraq attacked the twin towers to Osama is part of the Iraqi government. Facts are taking a backseat to patriotism and chauvenism. Anyone that asks for any reasonable justification for proclamations such as "Iraq Supports Terror" are immediately asked why they hate freedom.

In the meantime, American backpackers are still wearing Canadian flags, Obese politicians that lead your country are busy renaming french fries in the capitol cafeteria.

As a reasonable person, wouldn't you find this all a cause for concern?

Enjoy your freedom fries.

This is about the most intelligent thing i've read all day, how refreshing. Thanks!

Doctor Dre 03-14-2004 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by Roger


Tibetans are starting to think about terrorism. There's a tibetan guy who wrote a book on the subject. He wants the people to start using terrorism because nobody in the world seems to give a damn about there peacefull protests.

indouhism is bad for indus because one race of indians is judged to be superior to another or something like that. I don't have much info on this subject but I saw parts of a documentary on it and they showed you how bad it can be.

Yes they live by "castre" . That mean if you were born poor, you will stay poor all your life until you resurect . If you had a good life you will have more power in your next one . If you didn't you can become a stupid animal or something like that.

Roger 03-14-2004 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by Agent White
I don't like the fact that the US Army is using the base at Guantanemo Bay to avoid War Crimes legislation laid out in the Geneva Convention.
No actually Bush is doing this to avoid the laws of the US. The US doesn't believe in that guilty until proven innocent concept but Bush does so he sends people to Cuba at least until he can make sure that the supreme court won't get in his way anymore.

Doctor Dre 03-14-2004 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by Agent White
Enjoy your freedom fries.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yes this was the dumbest thing they ever did . Good post overall btw :)

Napolean 03-14-2004 04:00 PM

the whole point of religion is to control mass people without them realizing they are being controlled (kind of like cults)

religion = control.. and when religion controls a country... shit happens

which is why we need another president who loves blowjobs to take office instead of another christ finatic before everything completely goes to hell

Roger 03-14-2004 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Napolean
which is why we need another president who loves blowjobs to take office instead of another christ finatic before everything completely goes to hell
Religion is anti-democratic.

Doctor Dre 03-14-2004 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Napolean
the whole point of religion is to control mass people without them realizing they are being controlled (kind of like cults)

religion = control.. and when religion controls a country... shit happens

which is why we need another president who loves blowjobs to take office instead of another christ finatic before everything completely goes to hell

People WANT to get controlled by religion . They make the choice too . Nowdays if you don't want to go to church, it won't make any scandals in town like it would in the 1900's.

slackologist 03-14-2004 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Napolean

which is why we need another president who loves blowjobs to take office instead of another christ fanatic before everything completely goes to hell

i agree, bush and co need to chill the fuck out.

dicknixon 03-14-2004 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Agent White
Before this turns into an argument on "what defines religion" and numbers of dead bodies, let's argue over some more iron-clad assumptions:

1. Defending your country (note the word DEFEND) stops at your borders. Just like defending your net in soccer doesn't mean going over to the opposing net and beating the holy crap out of their goalie. Anything else is simply invasion.

2. Not liking Bush's military, economic and foreign policy decisions doesn't mean you are a member of Hamas.

3. If I was taken to court, in the US, for murder, and my testimony was "I heard rumor that my neighbor had a gun and that he might point it at me, so I went to his house, kicked the door down and shot the sweet living fuck out of the place", I would not be found innocent by means of self defense. I would be guilty.


I'm Canadian. I like the US.

I don't like the fact that many US citizens think the French are "bad" for not supporting their weak reason to go to war, but Canada and a majority of other nations didn't support the cause either and we have yet to be berated.

I don't like the fact that the US is in a bubble and most Americans can't find Iraq on a map, or know anything other than what Fox News tells them.

I don't like the fact that nearly 3/4s of Americans think WMDs were found in Iraq.

I don't like the fact that the US Army is using the base at Guantanemo Bay to avoid War Crimes legislation laid out in the Geneva Convention.

Do I think terrorism is wrong? Sure. Does that making any and all means of lying, torturing and invasion justified if it's to "fight terrorism"? No. Is Iraq a part of the "War On Terror?" No. Do many Americans think there is some link between fighting terrorists and the invasion of Iraq? Yes.

Many Americans seem to think that rhetoric and conjecture are ample enough reasoning to justify any action taken by their country, and that all other nations are jealous. When I was at Internext I asked a few Americans what Iraq had to do with terorism. I hear anything from Iraq attacked the twin towers to Osama is part of the Iraqi government. Facts are taking a backseat to patriotism and chauvenism. Anyone that asks for any reasonable justification for proclamations such as "Iraq Supports Terror" are immediately asked why they hate freedom.

In the meantime, American backpackers are still wearing Canadian flags, Obese politicians that lead your country are busy renaming french fries in the capitol cafeteria.

As a reasonable person, wouldn't you find this all a cause for concern?

Enjoy your freedom fries.

Very well stated. If this subject comes up again, lets just link to this post.

yeviking 03-15-2004 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger
Arab-Israeli workers in Israel have to wear a red sign to identify them as such. Kinda like what Hitler was doing to the Jews. I believe he made them wear a yellow sign. And for some people, Sharon ain't crazy enough :)
ohh man, you dont know shit
and i dont have time to explain :321GFY

slackologist 03-15-2004 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by yeviking


ohh man, you dont know shit
and i dont have time to explain :321GFY

must be pretty complex, got a link?

sixxxth_sense 03-15-2004 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
Pissed off because 11 Israelis died today http://www.iwannacum.com/pointing.jpg
thats fucking jokes LOL

Nedder 03-15-2004 01:44 AM

The United States rules the world, and most people don't like being owned.

If you think Americans are the devil, then it just shows you are not sharp enough to play the game. Chances are, your country loves being owned because it makes it alot easier for them to screw you and blame it on the U.S.

Handing out candy to the kids on 911 has alot more to do with channeling anger and maintaining power than it does with rejoicing in the death of Americans.

Different levels of everything in this world.

My :2 cents:

Nz

Mr. Marks 03-15-2004 02:58 AM

Let's stop pointing fingers and blaming terrorist attacks on who ever. Are we also having war here?

reynold 03-15-2004 03:04 AM

Please. War will stop if it starts with us.

alexg 03-15-2004 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger
Arab-Israeli workers in Israel have to wear a red sign to identify them as such. Kinda like what Hitler was doing to the Jews. I believe he made them wear a yellow sign. And for some people, Sharon ain't crazy enough :)
where did you hear this bullshit?
because, It's totally un true

alexg 03-15-2004 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slackologist

palestinians see the israeli military/government as terrorists and feel the same way, nice situation, refer back to my other post.

when the United States attacked Afghanistan following 9/11, did that make them terrorists? (many innocent civilians died following the atacks)


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