hmmmm.... interesting. Monday will be the true test when payments are sent out.
Ohhh, and im not a pedo, my German and Eu traffic just loves the Direct Debit and dialer options.

not yet!

I've got 7 sites across 2 accounts. 1 for dailer and DD as you
use and 1 for primary support of fetish sites. Dialers are easy
to flip, you can even work out a deal with ARS now.
I don't want to get on their bad site for the fetish sites.
(MoneyDolls runs under it's own merchant account.)

I think we'll be OK monday, this doesn't have the same feel
as the last few. This feels more like the AVS shake up. Kick me
if I'm wrong, but I'll put a pint and shot on it, that this week
we'll see Verotel publishing strict guidelines of what is the
minimum expected of the content in quality and quantity.
They've been relatively fast and loose with members areas
compared to the big 3.

Guess I'm glad mine was suspended for 'chargebacks' and not for underaged models.

Of course, they did that after I pulled their links.

It might be the point. I quickly checked at google which pages were suspended. All of them had lame design similar to our one! But it's our marketing strategy to tell people we are not professionals, we are just playing for fun (true, everybody from our group has other at least partial job). But why the hell they can't announce guidelines first and give about a week to change design? This way brings them more work too.

I doubt they'd suspend an account based upon poor design of the site. It sounds like it was content related. I imagine they wouldn't care as long as the volume was enough to support the account maintence and chargebacks were low.

yeah your site must feature kids

I can't believe that also but it looks like the only one thing which is same for all suspended sites.

Somehow this is dejavu:
Exactly same thing happened with globosale...same explanations to all paysite owners and resellers...and few weeks later the entire company shut down all activities. Even if all remaining sites are 18+.
Forget email Verotel, you will never recieve replies. Forget your money, you will never recieve your payments.... I bet the company is dead in few months.

This is what happens when billing companies mix pedoshit with 18+....stay away!

I think the writing is on the wall and verotel is about to crash and burn big time.

There is no way that they can continue doing business this way. The way they treat there customers and clients is absurd and if you did that anywhere but on the net(shut off accounts for no apparent reason with no warning)You would be out of business in about a day.

So I must agree with some of you in here. I strongly believe that VEROTEL will be a thing of the past. Absoulutley in my mind they are going to fold. How can they remain in business with all of these accounts that they have cancelled. I bet that over 80% of there accounts are down and how can they run on 80% of there revenues, I am sure they have employees to pay(not in the customer service area though)and overhead and all sorts of bills to pay that are relient on there steady income...NOT 20% of it.

Just something to think about thats all.

When Verotel shuts down..Who else would any of you sugest to process thru other than ccbill and ibill???

I do think that we all should just start our own processor and tell them all to gofuckthemselves.

Thanks for hearing me out.

The B-Man

Their suspension policy is not very fair. If you are an affiliate and signed up for many sites together under your main id, if all of them are fine, but one sponsor happened to be on their teen radar list, you as an affiliate get your whole account frozen. This is even for sites that all models are 18 but according to their interpretation "look" underage. What does this look mean? Wearing socks, ponytails? There are hundreds of thousands of such legal images. They seem to have over-reacted and suspended many accounts across the board.

No clue but posting bullshit... :321GFY

still up but gettin gworried

who else do you guys suggest for processing other than verotel and ccbill and ibill?

Have you guys had better luck with anyone else?

Someone who offers customer service and someone who is there if you need to get a hold of them.

Let Me know.

I need a processor NOW!!!

Thanks

The B-Man

dude, no offence but you have been asking for two days now who else you can use as a proccessor, who is good, etc..
CCbill or Epoch if you can't use Verotel are the most obvious choices out here. Search adult webmaster resource sites and you will see there are a few smaller ones around. Are they any good? who knows, take a chance and tell us.

Writing is on wall for sure for Verotel.

I added www.cardsgate.com 2 weeks ago and no problems so far.

Some small things - I find their admin pretty cumbersome. I also dont like how you dont get emailed when there is a sale.

I requested that they be added to statsremote and JB says should be done early next week,

Noticed cardsgate were running some banners at bottom of GFY too in last couple of days.

I think they will shut down within 6 months and keep their money for themself, like globosale did. The "only way" globosale could be contacted was by sending mail the old fashioned way, and they "would respond" after 6 weeks. For me they never did, and they still owe me $ 6.000. After shutting down, they told everyone to use Verotel instead....hmmmm...I smell something here....

btw, I've been in touch with several webmasters now, and everyone has got their account frozen. And none of them has promoted any underage sites. So what is the deal then? All sites I have been promoting are 18+, and I have checked their compliance and asked the webmasters if any doubt, before promoting any sites. So....if the fact is that they are not 18+, and they are "hardcore exposed", is it not CP then?

what the real problem is is verotel legal sites linking to underage sites. This is the stupidest business practice in the world and yet you have legit sites *linking* to illegal sites. This is beyond stupid, why is it so hard to just be legit across the board, no compromise, not even a single link to a wrong site?

it sounds like perhaps that is the reason for all of the suspended accounts of late? i know many have been complaining about suspended accounts as of friday... be curious as to the real reason as we were thinking of trying out Verotel for a new site in a couple of weeks, anyone have a good contact for new accounts over at Verotel..?

Has anybody been able to get ahold of anybody at Verotel? It's around midnight here in the US so they should be up and about over in the NL... I hope. I haven't received any return eMails. No "Live Support" either. Fuck.

Aren't payouts due tomorrow (united states) on March 15 ?

Yes. Usually I get mine on friday though, but since my account was suspended, I didn't receive it. The real test will be to see if those with active accounts get paid tomorrow.

Maybe, but my real concern is in their email they mention that underage is defined as even models 18 that are made to appear younger. This is completely open to intepretation. It's like going through every photoset and saying this dress makes the model look younger, or this hair style, or this "look", that part of it is most problematic as by this definition one could argue that virtually any legal model that ISN'T wearing heels and a regular dress is going to look underage - and god forbid the model actually looks 18 - this part of the rule I have no idea how they can enforce, essentially you wouldn't be able to promote any model that doesn't look like an old lady :)

Sooo.. nobody has received any feedback from their Risk Management yet?

Nothing. We wrote to about 8 different email addresses for help including Mrd who goes sometimes to GFY but no response yet.

Hmm.. "latinogirlies.com - preteen model stars" is still up and running from Verotel's "Treasure Club". But our sites got taken down. I'm just as confused as I was on friday :(

I just talked to someone on the phone at 1 (877) 647 1300

She told me she didn't have the files on why my sites were shut down but to email them because they are just going to respond to emails sent to whatever address listed when you log into your account telling you where to email (I can't remember what it is right now)
Also she said all money is going to be frozen for 6 months to make sure people don't start shutting down their sites and they get stuck with tons of chargebacks.

It didn't even sound like I could drop my one non-nude site and keep my nude site running with that account. I wanted to keep something running so then they would have no reason to hold my money but it seems they want me to start a new account so If they aren't even going to try and work with people to keep accounts active then I think everyones money is gone and we are screwed.

I am now sure, we search already new processor. If Verotel says "it was mistake" we will process through Verotel and second one. If Verotel says "you have to change graphic, delete series with this 20 years old girl because she looks like 17...." we drop them not matter we probably loose all reserves.

Just got a reply from one of the Verotel people who was recommended that I eMail in another thread. Basically I asked why my account was suspended and what I needed to do to get it reactivated. This was her reply:

Hi,

I have forwarded your email to our Risk Management department as this is the department actually handling all questions and procedures re the new content policy.

They will get contact you as soon as possible.

Regards
Nicole

My account with verotel is ok and I never receive the "underage model" letter. I normally receive money on Tuesday and I will let you know whether I can receive it.

I don't find anything wrong in verotel currently but this thread alert me it is time to spread the risk from using verotel only.

you will soon be getting that from all processers dealing with visa

ccbill said that exact stuff to me. take this and that set out, no bright colors, i dont wear enough makeup, to make myself look 18........ whatever that means

and my account was killed anyways

OK..Just got paid. A transfer for $1356 just showed up on my bank account. I am still owed $3962 for the two further pay periods, but the fact that my money was sent is great news.

I was freaking this whole week end!!!

Horrible :( Bad experience with ccbill too. They disapproved our application probably because some bdsm spanking pictures in one serie evoked "nonconsensual sex". I was present at shooting therefore i know both from the couple were laughing constantly during all session and left in very good opinion on bdsm which they did not try before. Look at

http://www.owpass.com/content/pages/beata/whip.php

Do you think it is some rape fantasy?

But there are few processors created mainly for legal extreme sites, so i hope they accept us. I suppose joining with credit cards will be more expensive than other memberships.

Seems they need to gain time... But why?

Nope

Owner of our account spoke with Verotel live support Bill. Bill checked our account and did not find anything wrong. But he told his opinion is not relevant and we can get answer only from Risk Management. He confirmed there were plenty other suspended accounts and Risk Management is busy. They work overtime but he doesn't know when they should possibly answer 4 days old emails.

Strange.

i just got my payout.
never received the letter you guys are referring to.

Just got my payout too, but my account is STILL suspended. Grr...