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Old 03-08-2004, 06:52 PM   #1
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Do you believe in God? Jesus? The Bible? Etc. ?

Ok fine every now and then ill spit out a prayer in hopes that there is a "God", but do we really have proof of any real God?

Fact is, we only have documented proof that Jesus was an actual man, and that he actually went through what the Bible says he did. However we dont have any documented proof that he is actually the son of God at all, why is it even beleived?

Why do some people refuse to beleive that we evolved into what we are today?

I had some chick at work go off at me about some guy named Darwin that said there was no such thing as evolution? She says that the images we see of the past of what we think are cavemen, are actually 900yr old people and thats why they are hunched over. She says the bible described this is how we were until God cut our life span 2 times?

I dunno, i hate to disbeleive, but it just seams more logical that science had a big role in our being, and that evolution definately exists. I mean dont we have solid scientific evidence of evolution?

I didnt go to sunday school. I consider myself Catholic only to an extent, and by no means practicing.

For the record she is also very against premarital sex. Says that when having sex without being married, that the sins of the other person get transferred to your soul, and you become marked or something?

she is heavy into this crap and thats fine, but some of it just doesnt make sense.

personally i think heaven is a myth, made up to comfort morning people.

i think (or atleast would like to) reincarnation is possible.

i think chances are that when you die, you DIE. nothing left, no afterlife, no reincarnation, etc.


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another myth lol

all this stuff could be just made up so we have something to beleive in, or be scared of.

im the type of person that needs solid proof before i beleive something is true or exists, there just is no proof right now

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Go read Joseph Campbell's "The Power of Myth"

He breaks down a lot of this comparative religion, their origins, basis, etc
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I had this very conversation with some 7th day adventists last week. I got so mad! They are impossible to reason with. Im not sure if I belive in a higher power, but I sure as hell belive in evolution!
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I had this very conversation with some 7th day adventists last week. I got so mad! They are impossible to reason with. Im not sure if I belive in a higher power, but I sure as hell belive in evolution!
had the whole Darwin speach thrown at you?

how there is a gap in the timeline of men that we use to show evolution, and that is the time when God split our lifespan?
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One point in their favor;

if we evolved from apes, why are there still apes running around?

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Also i said how we didnt have proof of Noahs Ark, she quickly said we did! She said they found a boat on top of a mountain or something, proving that the oceans had risen to that level and left the boat stranded there
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One point in their favor;

if we evolved from apes, why are there still apes running around?

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Are you a creationist?

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Fact is, we only have documented proof that Jesus was an actual man, and that he actually went through what the Bible says he did.
Actually, we don't even have that.
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Actually, we don't even have that.
not positive of the second part, but dont we have absolute proof of his existance?

i thought we did.
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One point in their favor;

if we evolved from apes, why are there still apes running around?

:/
Noone has EVER asserted that we evolved from apes.

No evolutionist, no Darwinist.. such a misnomer.

The theory is that modern apes, monkeys and other lower primates have the same ANCESTORS as human beings, we evolved from the same origin.
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personally i think heaven is a myth, made up to comfort morning people....

hell yeh, those fucking early risers need comfort....I personally enjoy sleeping in


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But there is no hell! They just invented that to scare ppl so they would act right!
Its interesting how you "beleive" in the first part but 'know' the second part. Why is hell anymore factual then heaven?

I dont beleive in either, just interested in what you said.
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Yes, I do. I'm sure some of the information we have been passed over the hundreds and thousands of years has been messed up somehow, but I still believe in Jesus.

I have heard the bible has lead to more archaeological findings than any other book in history. Maybe someone knows this for a fact?
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had the whole Darwin speach thrown at you?

how there is a gap in the timeline of men that we use to show evolution, and that is the time when God split our lifespan?

There were 3 of them, 1 of me. They said that there is proof of the great flood becuase all fossils are facing up, there is only 1 layer on the earth, and it was cuased by the great flood, and that if all the ice in the world melted the earth would not be covered in water becuase god promised that would never happen again. I couldnt debate with them becuase when I tried to show them scientific theories, they said christians have always been prosecuted, ect ect. GRRR! I gave up.
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Ok fine every now and then ill spit out a prayer in hopes that there is a "God", but do we really have proof of any real God?

Fact is, we only have documented proof that Jesus was an actual man, and that he actually went through what the Bible says he did. However we dont have any documented proof that he is actually the son of God at all, why is it even beleived?

Why do some people refuse to beleive that we evolved into what we are today?

I had some chick at work go off at me about some guy named Darwin that said there was no such thing as evolution? She says that the images we see of the past of what we think are cavemen, are actually 900yr old people and thats why they are hunched over. She says the bible described this is how we were until God cut our life span 2 times?

I dunno, i hate to disbeleive, but it just seams more logical that science had a big role in our being, and that evolution definately exists. I mean dont we have solid scientific evidence of evolution?

I didnt go to sunday school. I consider myself Catholic only to an extent, and by no means practicing.

For the record she is also very against premarital sex. Says that when having sex without being married, that the sins of the other person get transferred to your soul, and you become marked or something?

she is heavy into this crap and thats fine, but some of it just doesnt make sense.

personally i think heaven is a myth, made up to comfort morning people.

i think (or atleast would like to) reincarnation is possible.

i think chances are that when you die, you DIE. nothing left, no afterlife, no reincarnation, etc.


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There were 3 of them, 1 of me. They said that there is proof of the great flood becuase all fossils are facing up, there is only 1 layer on the earth, and it was cuased by the great flood, and that if all the ice in the world melted the earth would not be covered in water becuase god promised that would never happen again. I couldnt debate with them becuase when I tried to show them scientific theories, they said christians have always been prosecuted, ect ect. GRRR! I gave up.
3 of them??? SHEESH

i had my hands full with just 1 lol, but she is a die hard born-again

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it's funny that so much ppl think we are the product of evolution while the man behind that theory, Darwin himself has said it's crap and could have never happened.

Ppl are just afraid to admit they have no control over their lives... wise up, there are over 25.000 pieces of proof that the Bible is true... it's just a matter of do you WANT to see it?

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This is complete and utter bullshit.

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