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Where do you see TGP's a year from now?
My estimate is that the few large ones remaining will stick to a limited number of partners, charge a monthly fee to others, and traffic script usage will disappear from all sites previously established. I believe that several TGP owners will band together in several traffic filed groups to exchange hard links, push hard coded traffic, and share a pool of trusted submitters.
This is already happening, but I think "survival of the fittest" will eliminate all small sites and sites with pure CJ traffic. Also, I'm assuming that eventually ALL TGP's will be required to have an entrance page. Sites that do not have any established traffic will be flushed down the shitter due to the fact that there will be next to no productivity since most surfers will exit the entrance page, thus killing scripted traffic trades. Where do you see TGP's heading a year down the road? |
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quality of traffic will be important.
dont care if ur 100k tgp, if u have only 10% good traffic then what are u braggin about? (obviously u can trade with someone better.. but lets not get into that) more traffic will be circulated. conversions go down since more people hit webpages but sales will be same if not more.
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Ahh don't tell me this, im in the process of opening up a tgp page.
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I would agree with most of this. I dont know if all the cj sites will disappear though. May still trade with each other. I dont think the money will completely go away from them doing this... - Brent
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I have to think about this one..
but, I disagree with you. How's that for a start ? ![]()
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Another million more than there is now.
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worse than they are now
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My hypothesis are based on a law coming into effect that will require TGP owners to pass their surfers through an entrance page. If this happens, I can honestly say that I believe that scripted trade sites with no bookmarkers will die. ![]() |
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everyone's gona realize that choker is God and hand all our gallery submissions over to him so he can aford to buy a better house on the lake instead of one in the back streets of cottage country.
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I think its gonna get shut down again tho..
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The entrance page makes sense, i see some sites doing this already. It is essentially free hardcore porn so there should be a warning page.
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The current assumption is that if you're jerked to another site, you are already viewing porn... but what about the people who stumble across your site through other means?
This is what I do, it may be relatively insignificant but it's a start: 1. With the exception of one legacy site, I have a warning page on the root of my domain, which then links to tgp.html. I think it's bad news to have porn on your root page. 2. I also have <a href="http://www.icra.org/" target="_blank">ICRA</a> blocking information on both pages. You're crazy if you run an adult site without this! ![]() To solve the first issue you may be able to use a cookie system - if the surfer has previously consented to viewing adult content, they get carried straight through to the TGP page when they load the warning page... |
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I think that tgps will be paid and not free.
Gallery submitters will have to pay to display their galleries. No more free postings... and also no more free hosting :D
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tgp's will be dead
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i see tgps becoming more individualistic. one owner having hundreds of tgps and trading only amongst himself. taking submissions only for cash from trusted submitters
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Don't most trades bypass the entrance page? The person is on a hardcore site so sending directly is ok.
Big change I am seeing is how the established sites are total banner farms. warning page, second links page, then TGP. TGP has tons of crap and then gallery links below the fold. They are trying not to just give it away. The person has to know the site to even find it. |
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that sounds about right.
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Interesting replies. Everybody has different ideas and views. It should be interesting to see what happens.
As far as linking directly to tgp listing pages Slapass....Lets just say that that won't be allowed anymore (for shits and giggles). This adds a new twist doesn't it. ![]() |
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Few big players, the way it should be.
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I think they will be the same as they are now . The conv ration will probably go down tough
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I'm hoping for a nice COPA ruling to shut down TGP and free sites that contain hardcore.
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Hmm. Our strategy is to just keep them cool and increase bookmarkers. We don't trade traffic and I don't see why we'd be forced into any of those situations.
I don't really see them changing much other than refining. In other words, Bangthumbs shook things up with what frankly is a better design. Someone could come up with a better design and make more consumers happy.
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i think it'll pretty much be the same with a greater % of foreign so the ratio will get worse until we are better able to geotarget and sell the foreign guys.
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i predict that tgps will be fewer, and more profitable than ever a year from now.
everything is moving towards paid listings, and this is the blindingly obvious change that is working it's way around... as far as some US law shutting TGP's down, that's a laugh. the biggest TGP's are in areas other than the US.
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Hopefully free submissions will die off. Less newbies thinking they can get massive traffic. If all gallery spots are paid for the quality of galleries will be alot better and all that traffic won't be wasted. They'll be made by people trying to get a good ROI rather than trying to suck a TGP owners dicks by giving tons of content with 3 lines of text as advertising.
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What is this, the third time they are trying to pass COPA, or something like it? Pass/enforce, whatever.
Dont see it happening. Even if they do make all US based LL and TGP/MGP sites put up a free AVS or warning pages, what are they going to do to Hun Worldsex, EasyPic etc etc |
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I believe Europe is the next big thing...I think within 5 years we will seea giant increase in european traffic.
just my 2 cents
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more chinese traffic means more $$$ for everyone!
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I think the majority will be behind an AVS of sorts or offshore, I think most will be paid listings....and this will shrink the # of the hobbiests....
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I could care less if theres hardcore online as long as its ICRA filtered, its not exactly hard to enable the option in IE so that could protect kids. As far as business goes, personally I see pics as a method to upsell to the videos and higher res photos.
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The entrance page thing isn't going to happen.
Even IF the U.S. passed a law that help up in Federal court you can't enforce the law overseas, which is where all the TGP's will move. (the ones that aren't already there anyways) Free traffic will continue to be harder to come by, just like the SE's.
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I see TGP2 rulling the world!
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Nothing would please me more than a massive crack down on freely available porn , though it's hard to imagine that happening without international co-operation.
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Actually this is a good idea.
I proposed something like this earlier. My service does the gallery reviews/hand submission and gallery webmaster recruitment--split the fees with tgp owners. Win Win situation--gallery webmasters are happy / tgp owners are happy. My prediction is that TGPs will become more than just repositories for pics and movies. There will be a renewed push to establish community and retention amongst bookmarkers. Part of what explains the success of the Sleazydream TGP is the mini stories and value added content (ie., add on to the porn). Quote:
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