Where do you see TGP's a year from now? - GoFuckYourself.com

03-09-2004, 08:53 PM

My estimate is that the few large ones remaining will stick to a limited number of partners, charge a monthly fee to others, and traffic script usage will disappear from all sites previously established. I believe that several TGP owners will band together in several traffic filed groups to exchange hard links, push hard coded traffic, and share a pool of trusted submitters.

This is already happening, but I think "survival of the fittest" will eliminate all small sites and sites with pure CJ traffic. Also, I'm assuming that eventually ALL TGP's will be required to have an entrance page. Sites that do not have any established traffic will be flushed down the shitter due to the fact that there will be next to no productivity since most surfers will exit the entrance page, thus killing scripted traffic trades.

Where do you see TGP's heading a year down the road?

chowda · 03-09-2004, 08:58 PM

quality of traffic will be important.

dont care if ur 100k tgp, if u have only 10% good traffic then what are u braggin about?
(obviously u can trade with someone better.. but lets not get into that)

more traffic will be circulated.

conversions go down since more people hit webpages but sales will be same if not more.

Lace · 03-09-2004, 09:00 PM

Ahh don't tell me this, im in the process of opening up a tgp page.

Axeman · 03-09-2004, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by shermsshack
My estimate is that the few large ones remaining will stick to a limited number of partners, charge a monthly fee to others, and traffic script usage will disappear from all sites previously established. I believe that several TGP owners will band together in several traffic filed groups to exchange hard links, push hard coded traffic, and share a pool of trusted submitters.

This is already happening, but I think "survival of the fittest" will eliminate all small sites and sites with pure CJ traffic. Also, I'm assuming that eventually ALL TGP's will be required to have an entrance page. Sites that do not have any established traffic will be flushed down the shitter due to the fact that there will be next to no productivity since most surfers will exit the entrance page, thus killing scripted traffic trades.

Where do you see TGP's heading a year down the road?

I would agree with most of this. I dont know if all the cj sites will disappear though. May still trade with each other. I dont think the money will completely go away from them doing this...

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180° · 03-09-2004, 09:00 PM

I have to think about this one..

but, I disagree with you.

How's that for a start ?

Spunky · 03-09-2004, 09:01 PM

Another million more than there is now.

detoxed · 03-09-2004, 09:01 PM

worse than they are now

03-09-2004, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by 180°
I have to think about this one..

but, I disagree with you.

How's that for a start ?

Good start, but where do you feel they are headed?

My hypothesis are based on a law coming into effect that will require TGP owners to pass their surfers through an entrance page.

If this happens, I can honestly say that I believe that scripted trade sites with no bookmarkers will die.

SleazyDream · 03-09-2004, 09:05 PM

everyone's gona realize that choker is God and hand all our gallery submissions over to him so he can aford to buy a better house on the lake instead of one in the back streets of cottage country.

Juicy D. Links · 03-09-2004, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by shermsshack

Good start, but where do you feel they are headed?

My hypothesis are based on a law coming into effect that will require TGP owners to pass their surfers through an entrance page.

you got links or more info on this law?>

Swiftone · 03-09-2004, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks

you got links or more info on this law?>

Hes probably talking about COPA, and thats a helluva lot more required then an entrance page. Just a entrance page that has a warning wont be enough.

I think its gonna get shut down again tho..

Juicy D. Links · 03-09-2004, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by Swiftone
Hes probably talking about COPA, and thats a helluva lot more required then an entrance page. Just a entrance page that has a warning wont be enough.

I think its gonna get shut down again tho..

Wasnt copa passed in 98?

Phoenix · 03-09-2004, 09:15 PM

The entrance page makes sense, i see some sites doing this already. It is essentially free hardcore porn so there should be a warning page.

SKULL · 03-09-2004, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by 180°
I have to think about this one..

but, I disagree with you.

How's that for a start ?

I agree with u....

Swiftone · 03-09-2004, 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks

Wasnt copa passed in 98?

Its illegal to enforce so even tho it passed it hasnt ever really ben in effect... supreme court going to hear the case again this summer and decide.

rowan · 03-09-2004, 09:23 PM

The current assumption is that if you're jerked to another site, you are already viewing porn... but what about the people who stumble across your site through other means?

This is what I do, it may be relatively insignificant but it's a start:

1. With the exception of one legacy site, I have a warning page on the root of my domain, which then links to tgp.html. I think it's bad news to have porn on your root page.

2. I also have <a href="http://www.icra.org/" target="_blank">ICRA</a> blocking information on both pages. You're crazy if you run an adult site without this!

To solve the first issue you may be able to use a cookie system - if the surfer has previously consented to viewing adult content, they get carried straight through to the TGP page when they load the warning page...

yanglike · 03-09-2004, 09:37 PM

I think that tgps will be paid and not free.

Gallery submitters will have to pay to display their galleries.
No more free postings... and also no more free hosting :D

Illicit · 03-09-2004, 09:39 PM

tgp's will be dead

MrIzzz · 03-09-2004, 09:42 PM

i see tgps becoming more individualistic. one owner having hundreds of tgps and trading only amongst himself. taking submissions only for cash from trusted submitters

DamageX · 03-09-2004, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by shermsshack
Where do you see TGP's heading a year down the road?

It depends a lot on who will win the presidential elections in the US.

slapass · 03-09-2004, 09:45 PM

Don't most trades bypass the entrance page? The person is on a hardcore site so sending directly is ok.

Big change I am seeing is how the established sites are total banner farms. warning page, second links page, then TGP. TGP has tons of crap and then gallery links below the fold. They are trying not to just give it away. The person has to know the site to even find it.

Rictor · 03-09-2004, 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by spunky1
Another million more than there is now.

slackologist · 03-09-2004, 10:01 PM

that sounds about right.

03-09-2004, 10:24 PM

Interesting replies. Everybody has different ideas and views. It should be interesting to see what happens.

As far as linking directly to tgp listing pages Slapass....Lets just say that that won't be allowed anymore (for shits and giggles). This adds a new twist doesn't it.

Za Ha · 03-09-2004, 10:50 PM

Few big players, the way it should be.

Babaganoosh · 03-09-2004, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by shermsshack
Where do you see TGP's heading a year down the road?

Doctor Dre · 03-09-2004, 10:52 PM

I think they will be the same as they are now . The conv ration will probably go down tough

Digipimp · 03-09-2004, 10:54 PM

I'm hoping for a nice COPA ruling to shut down TGP and free sites that contain hardcore.

Rick Latona · 03-09-2004, 10:57 PM

Hmm. Our strategy is to just keep them cool and increase bookmarkers. We don't trade traffic and I don't see why we'd be forced into any of those situations.

I don't really see them changing much other than refining. In other words, Bangthumbs shook things up with what frankly is a better design.

Someone could come up with a better design and make more consumers happy.

Swiftone · 03-09-2004, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
I'm hoping for a nice COPA ruling to shut down TGP and free sites that contain hardcore.

Grr.. Don't you people get this, its not just hardcore that shit will block.

Digipimp · 03-09-2004, 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by Swiftone
Grr.. Don't you people get this, its not just hardcore that shit will block.

The ruling hasn't come down yet and I'm not very cool with hardcore being on the net free with no sort of protection. Whether you like that or not I don't really care. I hope they lay the smackdown on tgp and freesite people.

4Pics · 03-09-2004, 11:44 PM

i think it'll pretty much be the same with a greater % of foreign so the ratio will get worse until we are better able to geotarget and sell the foreign guys.

quiet · 03-09-2004, 11:48 PM

i predict that tgps will be fewer, and more profitable than ever a year from now.

everything is moving towards paid listings, and this is the blindingly obvious change that is working it's way around...

as far as some US law shutting TGP's down, that's a laugh. the biggest TGP's are in areas other than the US.

cluck · 03-09-2004, 11:48 PM

Hopefully free submissions will die off. Less newbies thinking they can get massive traffic. If all gallery spots are paid for the quality of galleries will be alot better and all that traffic won't be wasted. They'll be made by people trying to get a good ROI rather than trying to suck a TGP owners dicks by giving tons of content with 3 lines of text as advertising.

cluck · 03-09-2004, 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
i predict that tgps will be fewer, and more profitable than ever a year from now.

everything is moving towards paid listings, and this is the blindingly obvious change that is working it's way around...

Fuck you if I'd written less I'd have posted this first.

Steve · 03-09-2004, 11:53 PM

What is this, the third time they are trying to pass COPA, or something like it? Pass/enforce, whatever.

Dont see it happening. Even if they do make all US based LL and TGP/MGP sites put up a free AVS or warning pages, what are they going to do to Hun Worldsex, EasyPic etc etc

gotys · 03-09-2004, 11:53 PM

I believe Europe is the next big thing...I think within 5 years we will seea giant increase in european traffic.

just my 2 cents

pushpills · 03-09-2004, 11:55 PM

more chinese traffic means more $$$ for everyone!

TheJimmy · 03-09-2004, 11:57 PM

I think the majority will be behind an AVS of sorts or offshore, I think most will be paid listings....and this will shrink the # of the hobbiests....

Russian · 03-10-2004, 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by shermsshack
Where do you see TGP's heading a year down the road?

EVERYWHERE!!!

I'm serious...

Swiftone · 03-10-2004, 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp

The ruling hasn't come down yet and I'm not very cool with hardcore being on the net free with no sort of protection. Whether you like that or not I don't really care. I hope they lay the smackdown on tgp and freesite people.

I just dont understand why you think it will have anything to do with only hardcore when there is absolutely no definition at all of what is 'harmful' to children. Good luck selling a paysite when everytying has to be 100% censored and you cant use any text that would describe your content because it might offend some little brats soccer mom.

I could care less if theres hardcore online as long as its ICRA filtered, its not exactly hard to enable the option in IE so that could protect kids. As far as business goes, personally I see pics as a method to upsell to the videos and higher res photos.

SomeCreep · 03-10-2004, 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by shermsshack

Where do you see TGP's heading a year down the road?

Huge increase in all sponsor hosted galleries and thumb TGPs dominating all but the biggest text link TGPs.

Ash@phpFX · 03-10-2004, 03:12 AM

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Originally posted by Russian

EVERYWHERE!!!

I'm serious...

absolutely, more and more opening every day

Snake Doctor · 03-10-2004, 03:27 AM

The entrance page thing isn't going to happen.
Even IF the U.S. passed a law that help up in Federal court you can't enforce the law overseas, which is where all the TGP's will move. (the ones that aren't already there anyways)

Free traffic will continue to be harder to come by, just like the SE's.

Tuga · 03-10-2004, 03:37 AM

I see TGP2 rulling the world!

Nicky · 03-10-2004, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp

The ruling hasn't come down yet and I'm not very cool with hardcore being on the net free with no sort of protection. Whether you like that or not I don't really care. I hope they lay the smackdown on tgp and freesite people.

all free sites have a warning page......thats 1 of the golden rules at the Link List's where you submit free sites. Im so sick of people talking about free sites and with that they mean tgp's......Link List's have warning pages just about everyone of them......

mijoon · 03-10-2004, 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by Swiftone
Hes probably talking about COPA, and thats a helluva lot more required then an entrance page. Just a entrance page that has a warning wont be enough.

I think its gonna get shut down again tho..

Does anyone have any more info on this ?

Nothing would please me more than a massive crack down on freely available porn , though it's hard to imagine that happening without international co-operation.

03-10-2004, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by mijoon

Does anyone have any more info on this ?

Nothing would please me more than a massive crack down on freely available porn , though it's hard to imagine that happening without international co-operation.

I'm confused. Your website link leads to the hun, and your sig offers free hosted galleries. If a person were to think you have part of either site, it'd seem as if you thrive off of the distribution of free porn. What's the deal with the hypocracy?

$5 submissions · 03-10-2004, 05:27 AM

Actually this is a good idea.

I proposed something like this earlier.

My service does the gallery reviews/hand submission and gallery webmaster recruitment--split the fees with tgp owners. Win Win situation--gallery webmasters are happy / tgp owners are happy.

My prediction is that TGPs will become more than just repositories for pics and movies. There will be a renewed push to establish community and retention amongst bookmarkers. Part of what explains the success of the Sleazydream TGP is the mini stories and value added content (ie., add on to the porn).

Quote:

Originally posted by cluck
Hopefully free submissions will die off. Less newbies thinking they can get massive traffic. If all gallery spots are paid for the quality of galleries will be alot better and all that traffic won't be wasted. They'll be made by people trying to get a good ROI rather than trying to suck a TGP owners dicks by giving tons of content with 3 lines of text as advertising.

03-09-2004, 08:53 PM	#1
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Where do you see TGP's a year from now? My estimate is that the few large ones remaining will stick to a limited number of partners, charge a monthly fee to others, and traffic script usage will disappear from all sites previously established. I believe that several TGP owners will band together in several traffic filed groups to exchange hard links, push hard coded traffic, and share a pool of trusted submitters. This is already happening, but I think "survival of the fittest" will eliminate all small sites and sites with pure CJ traffic. Also, I'm assuming that eventually ALL TGP's will be required to have an entrance page. Sites that do not have any established traffic will be flushed down the shitter due to the fact that there will be next to no productivity since most surfers will exit the entrance page, thus killing scripted traffic trades. Where do you see TGP's heading a year down the road?

03-09-2004, 08:58 PM	#2
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rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	The current assumption is that if you're jerked to another site, you are already viewing porn... but what about the people who stumble across your site through other means? This is what I do, it may be relatively insignificant but it's a start: 1. With the exception of one legacy site, I have a warning page on the root of my domain, which then links to tgp.html. I think it's bad news to have porn on your root page. 2. I also have <a href="http://www.icra.org/" target="_blank">ICRA</a> blocking information on both pages. You're crazy if you run an adult site without this! To solve the first issue you may be able to use a cookie system - if the surfer has previously consented to viewing adult content, they get carried straight through to the TGP page when they load the warning page...

03-09-2004, 09:37 PM	#17
yanglike Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 183	I think that tgps will be paid and not free. Gallery submitters will have to pay to display their galleries. No more free postings... and also no more free hosting :D __________________ Go Traffic Cash Gold !!!

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03-09-2004, 09:45 PM	#21
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	Don't most trades bypass the entrance page? The person is on a hardcore site so sending directly is ok. Big change I am seeing is how the established sites are total banner farms. warning page, second links page, then TGP. TGP has tons of crap and then gallery links below the fold. They are trying not to just give it away. The person has to know the site to even find it.

03-09-2004, 10:01 PM	#23
slackologist Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 2,379	that sounds about right.

03-09-2004, 10:24 PM	#24
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Interesting replies. Everybody has different ideas and views. It should be interesting to see what happens. As far as linking directly to tgp listing pages Slapass....Lets just say that that won't be allowed anymore (for shits and giggles). This adds a new twist doesn't it.

03-09-2004, 10:50 PM	#25
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	Few big players, the way it should be.

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03-09-2004, 10:57 PM	#29
Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	Hmm. Our strategy is to just keep them cool and increase bookmarkers. We don't trade traffic and I don't see why we'd be forced into any of those situations. I don't really see them changing much other than refining. In other words, Bangthumbs shook things up with what frankly is a better design. Someone could come up with a better design and make more consumers happy. __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	i think it'll pretty much be the same with a greater % of foreign so the ratio will get worse until we are better able to geotarget and sell the foreign guys.

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cluck Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,248	Hopefully free submissions will die off. Less newbies thinking they can get massive traffic. If all gallery spots are paid for the quality of galleries will be alot better and all that traffic won't be wasted. They'll be made by people trying to get a good ROI rather than trying to suck a TGP owners dicks by giving tons of content with 3 lines of text as advertising. __________________ icq 279990726 www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

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Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	What is this, the third time they are trying to pass COPA, or something like it? Pass/enforce, whatever. Dont see it happening. Even if they do make all US based LL and TGP/MGP sites put up a free AVS or warning pages, what are they going to do to Hun Worldsex, EasyPic etc etc

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03-10-2004, 03:27 AM	#44
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